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  • Originally posted by Random Rooster View Post
    Tucker Paddo Murdoch Carlsson telling it like it is.....

    ​​​​​​https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tuck...ines-zelenskyy
    The meagre fact that Zelensky is looking into the banning of the Orthodox Church or any religion that has ties with Russia is not the act of a man who supports freedom

    https://orthochristian.com/149844.html

    When you trust your television
    what you get is what you got
    Cause when they own the information
    they can bend it all they want

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    • [QUOTE=Andrew Walker; The meagre fact that Zelensky is looking into the banning of the Orthodox Church or any religion that has ties with Russia is not the act of a man who supports freedom.

      Oh yeah. And banned the opposition party and imprisoned opposition politicians and closed down media outlets. His is a fascist/nationalist government brought to power through US meddling.

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      • [QUOTE=Paddo Colt 61;n971552][QUOTE=Andrew Walker; The meagre fact that Zelensky is looking into the banning of the Orthodox Church or any religion that has ties with Russia is not the act of a man who supports freedom.

        Oh yeah. And banned the opposition party and imprisoned opposition politicians and closed down media outlets. His is a fascist/nationalist government brought to power through US meddling.

        [/QUOTE]

        Here is another measure this freedom loving hero has seen fit to under take.

        https://www.npr.org/2022/07/08/11105...-political-par
        Last edited by Andrew Walker; 12-09-2022, 11:29 AM.
        When you trust your television
        what you get is what you got
        Cause when they own the information
        they can bend it all they want

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        • Today's news is this one...

          Putin, secret talks and the 'Merchant of Death': US basketball star Brittney Griner's long road to freedom from a Russian penal colony

          https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-...iner/101752848

          TBH I think it's a farce that the USA would trade a terrorist (plus suspected Russian spy) for a fool who tried bringing controlled substances into Russia, while being paid $1m a season to play there.

          A small snapshot into the reality of life in Russia + what their punishments are like. One reason why Paddo would never move there...

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          • I just knew Ism would jump in and completely change tact This is what one does when they cannot refute anything being said

            Only a fool does not make sure they know the drug laws of another country before entering
            When you trust your television
            what you get is what you got
            Cause when they own the information
            they can bend it all they want

            John Mayer

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            • Issy probably thought Schapelle was innocent - he's a devotee of tabloid media.

              I wouldn't expect the corporate MSM to do other than run the US line but the ABC is disgraceful in its coverage - pure stenography from its new "balanced" batch of lightweight "journalists". The things that you raise are never mentioned. All we get is the US fighting to last plucky little Ukrainian. The Ukraine a freedom loving democracy? Hilarious. Rockets fired at Poland and Russia blamed and we're supposed to believe the mass graves stuff

              On both China and Russia, the ABC trot out for comment this fella Peter Jennings who is/was head of ASPI (Australian Security Policy Institute) which was set up by the Howard Libs and is financed by US Intelligence and the Armaments industry. No credibility whatsoever and he gets an ABC platform. No wonder that guys like Eddie form the views that they hold.

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              • You should have heard Tucker go off that Zelensky got Time Magazine man of the year........nearly as loud as when he went off when Trump didn't get it!!!!

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                • Originally posted by Andrew Walker View Post
                  I just knew Ism would jump in and completely change tact This is what one does when they cannot refute anything being said

                  Only a fool does not make sure they know the drug laws of another country before entering
                  You don't change tact my good man. I think you meant to say tack.
                  #We Stand with ourJewish community#

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                  • Originally posted by Random Rooster View Post
                    You should have heard Tucker go off that Zelensky got Time Magazine man of the year........nearly as loud as when he went off when Trump didn't get it!!!!
                    LOL

                    Zelensky is in good company though after all Hitler 1938 and Stalin twice 1939-42 both were awarded Times man of the year

                    Why even Ayatollah Khomeini 1979 was a Time Man of the year winner
                    Last edited by Andrew Walker; 12-09-2022, 02:46 PM.
                    When you trust your television
                    what you get is what you got
                    Cause when they own the information
                    they can bend it all they want

                    John Mayer

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                    • Who cares what Time/Newsweek say about anything?

                      Incidentally, the Uyghur "genocide" has been thoroughly debunked by an OZ researcher - another propaganda lie but one believed by people who have nothing but a passing interest in any matter - easy meat for Western Intelligence.

                      First it was"Genocide" which was ridiculed so it became "cultural genocide' whatever that might be an as if the US would worry about it. ASPI (mentioned earlier) then "identified" hundreds of "prisons" which turned out to be factories, schools, colleges and training centres. Then it was Uyghur "slavery" - cotton pickers of the enormous amount of cotton that the region generates. Turns out that US company John Deere sold over a half billion dollars equipment in one year alone for use in the region. Then it changed to shipping the "slaves" all over China (ASPI again)

                      The Oz outfit, CO_WEST_PRO’s analysis of this reports completely eliminated any credibility ASPI had in regards to Xinjiang and the analyses of two NGO reports has been summarised as failing to provide any recognised methodology with nothing in the form of admissible evidence, in fact, after careful assessment, there appears to be very little that can be described as anything other than headline seeking junk research.

                      CO-WEST-PRO's reports carefully and methodically stripped back, layer by layer and legally examined ASPI and other's claims proving that the entire Uyghur narrative was based on opinions, misstated facts, mistranslations, misinterpretations and misunderstandings. Any reader can now clearly see that the allegations were not just unsupported, they were unsupportable. They must be a buncha Commos.

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                      • Originally posted by Andrew Walker View Post

                        LOL

                        Zelensky is in good company though after all Hitler 1938 and Stalin twice 1939-42 both were awarded Times man of the year

                        Why even Ayatollah Khomeini 1979 was a Time Man of the year winner
                        I have to jump in on that as that is pure Russian Federation propaganda to compare the two - goes along with their debunked reason for invading Ukraine that it was full of Neo Nazi's.

                        The comparison is Putin with Stalin and Putin is trying to rehabilitate Stalin by banning anything negative ever again being written and said against that evil monster as he considers this an attack on the Soviet Union/Russian Federation.

                        As you know Putin considered the breakup of the Soviet Union the greatest tragedy and mistake that even happened in History - not so those that lived under it though as they voted on mass to leave it and would never ever ever want it to return although Putin certainly does.

                        Putin was time magazine person of the year himself in 2007- Putin is a Neo Stalinist if you are not aware of that.




                        Putin also had the Memorial Human Rights Centre Banned as well in the Russian Federation as it created a "false image of the Soviet Union and of Stalin". Putin can't handle the truth about the evil system and ideology that Communism was and is as he was part of it in his role as a KGB Colonel.

                        Memorial is Russia's oldest and most prominent human rights organization, established to investigate the 10's of millions murdered under the direction of Russian dictator Josef Stalin and campaign for the rights of political prisoners and the politically oppressed. It was founded in the late 1980s by Nobel Peace Prize laureate Andrei Sakharov.

                        Putin is an unabashed admirer of Stalin's leadership and even said that Stalin was a great leader and was right to crack down hard on dissidents.

                        I doubt anyone that survived the Gulag archipelago would ever agree with that as the massive majority were not dissidents at all only people who by a stroke of Stalin's pen ended up on one of the countless number of lists of people either to be executed/tortured and sent to any one of the camps in the Gulag archipelago System- see map below of the locations of all these camps.

                        It still has me baffled why anyone would ever like such a system and even admire the leaders even - noting that Comrade Paddo is a fan also


                        Last edited by King Salvo; 12-09-2022, 05:23 PM.

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                        • Six months ago Vlad declared that he viewed sanctions as a direct attack on Russia and he would engage in nuclear warheads in response. Of course the NATO aligned countries knew he was bluffing.

                          This week Vlad has warned that if Russia is attacked then theres a high possibility that they will return serve with nuclear warheads. No one is going to attack Russia- what the hell for? He is just trying to stay relevant. Maybe if he attended the G20 summit and aired his grievances face to face with the other world leaders he would have got a bit of credit he so desires....alas he stayed away like a coward.

                          So what has been achieved in 10 months of fighting? Absolutely nothing

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                          • Originally posted by King Salvo View Post

                            I have to jump in on that as that is pure Russian Federation propaganda to compare the two - goes along with their debunked reason for invading Ukraine that it was full of Neo Nazi's.

                            The comparison is Putin with Stalin and Putin is trying to rehabilitate Stalin by banning anything negative ever again being written and said against that evil monster as he considers this an attack on the Soviet Union/Russian Federation.

                            As you know Putin considered the breakup of the Soviet Union the greatest tragedy and mistake that even happened in History - not so those that lived under it though as they voted on mass to leave it and would never ever ever want it to return although Putin certainly does.

                            Putin was time magazine person of the year himself in 2007- Putin is a Neo Stalinist if you are not aware of that.




                            Putin also had the Memorial Human Rights Centre Banned as well in the Russian Federation as it created a "false image of the Soviet Union and of Stalin". Putin can't handle the truth about the evil system and ideology that Communism was and is as he was part of it in his role as a KGB Colonel.

                            Memorial is Russia's oldest and most prominent human rights organization, established to investigate the 10's of millions murdered under the direction of Russian dictator Josef Stalin and campaign for the rights of political prisoners and the politically oppressed. It was founded in the late 1980s by Nobel Peace Prize laureate Andrei Sakharov.

                            Putin is an unabashed admirer of Stalin's leadership and even said that Stalin was a great leader and was right to crack down hard on dissidents.

                            I doubt anyone that survived the Gulag archipelago would ever agree with that as the massive majority were not dissidents at all only people who by a stroke of Stalin's pen ended up on one of the countless number of lists of people either to be executed/tortured and sent to any one of the camps in the Gulag archipelago System- see map below of the locations of all these camps.

                            It still has me baffled why anyone would ever like such a system and even admire the leaders even - noting that Comrade Paddo is a fan also


                            LOL you live in a funny world mate Stating facts is not propaganda and those facts are that all three Zelensky Hitler and Stalin have all been awarded Man of the year by time.

                            Come to think of it the only propaganda here is your own by trying to say me stating demonstrably true facts is propaganda as you don’t like this fact
                            When you trust your television
                            what you get is what you got
                            Cause when they own the information
                            they can bend it all they want

                            John Mayer

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                            • Originally posted by Andrew Walker View Post

                              LOL you live in a funny world mate Stating facts is not propaganda and those facts are that all three Zelensky Hitler and Stalin have all been awarded Man of the year by time.

                              Come to think of it the only propaganda here is your own by trying to say me stating demonstrably true facts is propaganda as you don’t like this fact
                              Really you conveniently left out Putin being awarded man of the year by time to promulgate the Russian propaganda line.

                              Putin is a Stalinist

                              The only propaganda on here is what Comrade Paddo and yourself post with you both being Russia/ China Communism Apologists and anti West exponents although neither of you would ever take that last step and migrate to any of these countries you supposedly both adore and live under those systems as you have it too good in the west

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                              • Originally posted by King Salvo View Post

                                Really you conveniently left out Putin being awarded man of the year by time to promulgate the Russian propaganda line.

                                Putin is a Stalinist

                                The only propaganda on here is what Comrade Paddo and yourself post with you both being Russia/ China Communism Apologists and anti West exponents although neither of you would ever take that last step and migrate to any of these countries you supposedly both adore and live under those systems as you have it too good in the west
                                No I was genuinely unaware of Putin winning this award. The inference being Time have a habit of awarding characters of ill repute Man of the year

                                I have posted nothing but factual content on here
                                When you trust your television
                                what you get is what you got
                                Cause when they own the information
                                they can bend it all they want

                                John Mayer

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