Federal Election

[eddie]

I'm voting Green, first preference ALP Count, They're the only real hope for change. A Murdoch editorial 10+ years ago declared war on them which means that anything News says about them is totally unreliable. If Murdoch loathes them so much, they must be doing a lot right. Libs last of course. Hopefully I'll be seeing the last of the Palestine persecutor, Dave Sharma and the rest of what has to be the most incompetent Tory bunch yet and that's sayin' something.

Well , the deed is done.
As I walked down to vote in the pouring rain, I recalled listening (yes listening.....not sure you know what that is) to one those green party "experts" a couple of years ago, saying that Australia was headed for a record breaking drought.
Been flooded twice already this year.
Arriving at the local school I was ambushed by a young bloke trying to convince me to vote labour. Unfortunately his how to vote flyers had become a sodden mass, and he failed in a valiant attempt to peel one off. Never-the-less I complimented him on his dedication and went inside without this valuable tool at my disposal.

Left to my own devices I decided to put greens last.
I've done my bit by not owning a car after decades of being a petrol head, and I figured anyone with a basic grasp of economics would do the same.

[eddie]

Saw Ms "there will be no carbon tax under the govt I lead" Gillard on tv news tonite, campaigning with Albo.
Her own Party dumped her from being Prime Minister and replaced her with K Rudd...having previously dumped him in favour of her.
Rudd, Gillard, Rudd...oh I have a headache.

Well , we know Albo cant afford to party like Dudd did back in 07.

[eddie]

Lol Eddie. I’ve learnt with Paddo, you can never win a debate. You either get a lecture or ignored.

Or misquoted as well.

[eddie]

The whole election system is a joke.
We're supposed to live in a democracy, yet we are forced to vote.
Smacks of 'Nazi Germany' to me.
Vote, or else bad things will happen to you...you will have to take money out of your bank account and pay it to the govt.
If you don't pay this money to the govt the govt will cancel your driver's licence.
What a croc of a system.
Voting should be optional as in America.

Preferential voting is ridiculous.
The candidate who gets the most votes should win the seat.

I just voted.
The cardboard booth was wobbling around so much I could hardly put pen to paper.
I should've been able to vote online, before today.

Totally agree that compulsory voting is undemocratic...............but I'm afraid I might cop it big time from the colt now.
You see............if we had that particular freedom of choice, labour could never form a government.

[eddie]

I quit education .

I can see that.

[mightyrooster]

[QUOTE=Jacks Fur Coat;n933489]

Reckon you're on the money here MR.

Q: What's the best thing the Liberal Party has going for it?
A: The Labor Party.

Yep the rusted on Lib and ALP voters will vote as always. Same too the Greens, which are popular with a lot of the younger generation which is the vibe I get having two adult teens in the house. The swinging or undecided voter will determine who will win. I really don't think ScoMo is that well liked, but is the alternative any better to the swinging voter? In 2007, Howard was on the nose after 11 years and the voters quickly went to Rudd as he appeared to be different - he was a good orator / debater and could convince the electorate that it was worth making the change. And Murdoch and the news cycle was unable to do anything about it no matter what Paddo may say.

[mightyrooster]

Or misquoted as well.

Misquoted, misinterpreted, misrepresented.

[Jacks Fur Coat]

I can see that.

Haha...my best laugh today Ed.

The best wit requires few words.

[Paddo Colt 61]

[QUOTE=eddie;
Left to my own devices I decided to put greens last.
I've done my bit by not owning a car after decades of being a petrol head, and I figured anyone with a basic grasp of economics would do the same.

No buddy, any nong consumer of Murdoch media might do the same. What, we can't afford dental care on Medicare but we can afford billion dollar taxpayer subsidies to a parallel private health money pit?

After voting for Scomo (anyone with a basic grasp of self delusion would) off you toddled to your pensioner subsidised flat confident in the knowledge that the GST wouldn't rise to pay for the Tory's trillion dollar deficit. (The rich won't pay back the money they didn't need so you don't think they will be paying much at all surely?) Of course we're all in this together and we should bear the burden equally so more tax is on the way for you when pre GST you paid none. I mean your "basic grasp of economics" tells you that?

Sipping your hot cuppa and pulling the dressing gown together in the Canberra chill you might find extra warmth in the thought that your free medicare is forever despite the "incoming" Lib Minister telling us last week that it was unaffordable. For us, it's surely a comfort to know that our pensioners keep the course steady with their "common sense"and "basic grasp of economics".

Ex petrol head says it all or should it be Meathead?

[Jacks Fur Coat]

[QUOTE=mightyrooster;n933512]

Yep the rusted on Lib and ALP voters will vote as always. Same too the Greens, which are popular with a lot of the younger generation which is the vibe I get having two adult teens in the house. The swinging or undecided voter will determine who will win. I really don't think ScoMo is that well liked, but is the alternative any better to the swinging voter? In 2007, Howard was on the nose after 11 years and the voters quickly went to Rudd as he appeared to be different - he was a good orator / debater and could convince the electorate that it was worth making the change. And Murdoch and the news cycle was unable to do anything about it no matter what Paddo may say.

Oh for a Bob Hawke, John Howard or even Paul Keating. All strong principled leaders, regardless of whether you agreed with their policies.

None around of that calibre sadly.

[ism22]

Totally agree that compulsory voting is undemocratic...............but I'm afraid I might cop it big time from the colt now.
You see............if we had that particular freedom of choice, labour could never form a government.

You don't have to vote, you just have to put a form in the box.

[ism22]

[QUOTE=mightyrooster;n933512]

Yep the rusted on Lib and ALP voters will vote as always. Same too the Greens, which are popular with a lot of the younger generation which is the vibe I get having two adult teens in the house. The swinging or undecided voter will determine who will win. I really don't think ScoMo is that well liked, but is the alternative any better to the swinging voter? In 2007, Howard was on the nose after 11 years and the voters quickly went to Rudd as he appeared to be different - he was a good orator / debater and could convince the electorate that it was worth making the change. And Murdoch and the news cycle was unable to do anything about it no matter what Paddo may say.

IMO it's not just swinging voters... it comes down to swinging voters in marginal seats.

NFI who they are or what floats their boat. Interestingly though, all my friends who are close to the Liberal party seem to have pretty much conceded defeat and started making excuses on FB.

Haven't seen Rob C shilling the Pen this time either. He got all fired up before the NSW election (despite being in QLD?) plus the federal election (kept bumping pro-Liberal threads and trying to dominate discussion with pro-Lib stuff). I think his absence is telling...

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Side question... why is this forum owned by a QLD political hack and a Dolphins PR dude? (Are either Easts fans?)

[Andrew Walker]

After a slow start this thread is really warming up. It is as good as watching those who hand the pamphlets out debate and discuss policies t amongst themselves. They were also in full swing today at all the polling booths that we attended today.

With my vote finally cast I find myself feeling very pleased with the way I voted and that two others also did the same as I. Had abuse from a Liberal pamphleteer at one booth for telling him he was being voted last. More abuse from a Greens Member for telling them the same elsewhere. It was also a thrill to get the trifecta of abuse at the third polling booth from a Labor pamphleteer when I told them they would be last.

In case any were wondering No I did not vote more than once but attended three polling booths as I always like to see who does the best sausage sizzle I am feeling rather full after three sausage egg and bacon rolls with onions

[Paddo Colt 61]

Non compulsory voting does lead to the elimination of the disengaged, the cynical, and the lazy - all well and good but the end result is vulnerability to well organised players like religions with a result like we see in the US where fundamentalist loons foister their "morality" on the rest of us. Things are bad enough as they are.

[Andrew Walker]

Irrespective of it being compulsory I consider voting my civic duty and as such look forward to every single election in the future so I can continue to vote the majors last and use my preferences in the best way possible to achieve my desired result