Let's get the Facts Right on China.

[Paddo Colt 61]

And this from Professor Stephen Fitzgerald who was a former Ambassador to China. What is the motive for this crap? "Intelligence" inputs on behalf of our very dangerous ally? The Government doing too well in polling so inject a bit of unease in the electorate? Who knows but Harcher, the main protagonist has a history of Sinophobia and it's all concocted bullshit.

https://johnmenadue.com/will-albanes...-war-hysteria/

[Andrew Walker]

Welcome back PC As per usual fascinating and thought provoking reading

[zac]

keating's always good value.
as a sidenote his previous piece that appeared on that website had appeared in the australian the day before. maybe, just maybe, it's simplistic to say that you should/shouldn't read anything from medadue/the oz

[redwhiteblue]

Hahaha thats the conundrum when it comes to China.....love them or hate them they have played a very big part in making Australia a wealthy country.....and that will continue into the future. Im hopeful Penny Wong can help build a stronger economic relationship with the Chinese. I'm going to continue doing my part by ordering Rose Bay chinese for the family every second Saturday !

I'm doing my bit for the Italian Rose Bay community by ordering Made In Italy pizzas every now and again when I don't make my own. They are at least $10 cheaper than Bondi gluten free ones and they delivery very quickly. Do you order from May Kwai? I've been living here for 20 years apart from a 3 year break in between and have never tried it.

[A Country Member]

I find it funny that people won’t trust the media when it comes to footy but take it hook, line and sinker with regard to mainstream.

[A Country Member]

keating's always good value.
as a sidenote his previous piece that appeared on that website had appeared in the australian the day before. maybe, just maybe, it's simplistic to say that you should/shouldn't read anything from medadue/the oz

Was that the reply to Sheridan? Keating would’ve demanded it

[Andrew Walker]

I find it funny that people won’t trust the media when it comes to footy but take it hook, line and sinker with regard to mainstream.

Perhaps a sign of their IQ

[A Country Member]

Perhaps a sign of their IQ

Ignorant and blind from the rsl happy hour me thinks

[Random Rooster]

I'm doing my bit for the Italian Rose Bay community by ordering Made In Italy pizzas every now and again when I don't make my own. They are at least $10 cheaper than Bondi gluten free ones and they delivery very quickly. Do you order from May Kwai? I've been living here for 20 years apart from a 3 year break in between and have never tried it.

Hands down the best Chinese food i've ever tasted.....and hands down the most expensive but it's worth it.

We used to go to the Noodle House in DB every 2 weeks but the family wanted May Kwai- i said ok once a month because i don't want to mortgage the house. Double Bay Chinese was nasty- no wonder it closed down.

I think we are in the wrong thread talking food-even if it is Chinese !!

[King Salvo]

And this from Professor Stephen Fitzgerald who was a former Ambassador to China. What is the motive for this crap? "Intelligence" inputs on behalf of our very dangerous ally? The Government doing too well in polling so inject a bit of unease in the electorate? Who knows but Harcher, the main protagonist has a history of Sinophobia and it's all concocted bullshit.

https://johnmenadue.com/will-albanes...-war-hysteria/

Nothing like another opinion piece from a pro China advocate on the Beijing Payroll

[King Salvo]

Welcome back PC As per usual fascinating and thought provoking reading

I thought Comrade Paddo might have bit the bullet and finally migrated to Russia, China or North Korea but alas that was wishful thinking as he will never leave the West. Just pissing in the Wind

[Paddo Colt 61]

[QUOTE=zac;keating's always good value.
as a sidenote his previous piece that appeared on that website had appeared in the australian the day before. maybe, just maybe, it's simplistic to say that you should/shouldn't read anything from medadue/the oz

The Menadue site takes opinions from a wide range of sources Zac. It was Keating after all and I suspect that the Menadue following wouldn't waste their time reading the Oz. Might be different it ran stuff from Greg Sheridan.

[Paddo Colt 61]

[QUOTE=Andrew Walker; Welcome back PC As per usual fascinating and thought provoking reading

Haven't been away Andy, been over at the Footy side predicting the disaster of the last game. The King thought heat would just be a common factor for a team that trains in it and a pub side just coming north for the game. Ray also opined that any of the top four Sydney sides would have done a number on a Dolphins full of rep players and that Zen master coach. There ain't no one from Redcliff in it.

Anyway I thought that I'd get back here for some more serious stuff. As regards this China situation, it's really very serious. I see a pre WW1 atmosphere abroad. An Empire threatened, Propaganda all over, people getting emotional and fearful. the media and Governments manufacturing consent.

[eddie]

Here is a link to Paul Keating's post on the SMH's current war mongering anti China campaign. We can't let ourselves, through apathy and ignorance, become susceptible to the sort of trash journalism that the MSM constantly serves up.
https://johnmenadue.com/australia-an...d-and-the-age/

"The illegitimacy of the publication is manifest even to a moderately informed reader. The management and board of Nine Group will have much to answer for should it allow further publication of this wantonly biased and inflammatory material."

Pretty telling stuff.

[Paddo Colt 61]

And it is misleading, inflammatory and wrong Eddie. As usual ASPI, the Australian Strategic Policy Institute is prominent. It was set up by Howard and is part funded by Washington and armament manufacturers as an anti China voice yet it gets a platform, even on the ABC, masquerading as an independent Think Tank when it is anything but. It's first CEO, Peter Jennings, who is central in the 9Media China scare panel is a long time anti China hawk. Whenever, in the past there was a hacking scare, as there was with the census, he straight out blamed China, was ALWAYS wrong but never apologised.

Oz public opinion, in just a few years, has gone from supportive of our China relationship to being overwhelmingly negative. What has our MSM been doing to people?

The ALP is useless on it, frightened of its own shadow. For all of his faults, Arthur Caldwell as ALP Opposition leader in the 60s, refused bi-partisanship to Australia's military commitment to Vietnam. The ALP remained steadfastly opposed to it until Whitlam withdrew our force. The ALP then had balls, this lot has us all the way with nuclear subs and subservience to US interests everywhere.