Let's get the Facts Right on China.

[zac]

I find it funny that people won’t trust the media when it comes to footy but take it hook, line and sinker with regard to mainstream.

that's true. you're wrong on the war in ukraine, at least the part which doesn't see putin as a bad leader, but that doesn't mean that we should believe everything we read in the papers

[A Country Member]

Is that a ‘yeah nah’ or a ‘nah yeah’ zac? Not sure I compute

[A Country Member]

We need money for thubs.
Big, black, hard, long, thick, wet thubs.

Don’t worry about the quiet Australians battling their way at the coalface. Thubs

[ism22]

I don't know why some people get bent out of shape over the use of the ignore function. It's a perfectly valid option. Just like walking down a supermarket aisle thinking no, I'm not buying that brand as it makes me ill or no I'm not watching that show as I don't like the concept or characters. It narrows the audience of those who deserved to have their wings clipped.Smart enlightened people use the ignore function. It's another way of sifting through what's acceptable and unacceptable to one's personal tastes. That's all.

Agreed. I'm still young but I'm going through a period in life where I think that I'm legitimately quite busy. Every second spent arguing with this dude is one that could be spent with my wife/kids.

I have argued this topic for what seems like eternity and had to draw a line somewhere. If this is a sign of mental weakness then fine, so be it. I just have more productive topics to discuss with people online... like the footy (which is why I use this forum funnily enough), competitive distance running, my pet guinea pigs, fixing CRT TVs (anybody got any they need to offload?) and retro gaming,

On that note, below is my adorable pet guinea pig called Sam. If anybody needs a mentally strong subject to quote John Menadue's drivel at or boast to about their illustrious academic career at the highly renowned Glebe High School then I promise he won't block you. He's happy to be a guinea pig.

[redwhiteblue]

Agreed. I'm still young but I'm going through a period in life where I think that I'm legitimately quite busy. Every second spent arguing with this dude is one that could be spent with my wife/kids.

I have argued this topic for what seems like eternity and had to draw a line somewhere. If this is a sign of mental weakness then fine, so be it. I just have more productive topics to discuss with people online... like the footy (which is why I use this forum funnily enough), competitive distance running, my pet guinea pigs, fixing CRT TVs (anybody got any they need to offload?) and retro gaming,

On that note, below is my adorable pet guinea pig called Sam. If anybody needs a mentally strong subject to quote John Menadue's drivel at or boast to about their illustrious academic career at the highly renowned Glebe High School then I promise he won't block you. He's happy to be a guinea pig.

It's not a sign of mental weakness. It's the enlightened thing to do. Legitimately saying 'you are not worth my time or energy and you won't have an audience in me'. Apart from the footy of course, everyone knows my passion for the music threads and yet people still get bent out of shape on there too apparently. Egos, drama and tantrums and jostling for position as to whom is 'top dog' on here like we are in an episode of Prisoner has no place on this forum. Thanks for sharing the photo of Sam..it's a beautiful photo and it balances out a lot of the unnecessary ugliness. I had a Zoom call the other night with a friend in the UK who breeds Cavapoos and I met 7 of them on the call.

[zac]

Is that a ‘yeah nah’ or a ‘nah yeah’ zac? Not sure I compute

bit of both i suppose

[eddie]

I can't agree with Chinas stance on the AUKUS agreement.
If it involved nuclear weapons it would be a different story, but a nuclear powered submarine is the only true submarine. Diesel/electric is ancient tech and only equates to a submersible.
It's about time we got something useful from the americans.

[Paddo Colt 61]

I have a Cavapoo. We call them Cavoodles in Oz. We rehouse the old boys and girls (one at a time of course) who are not wanted at a time when the medical bills start rollin' in (not mine, the dogs')

And apart from Guinea pigs, pop music, the block function and Empathy, what is your take, RWB, on China, our USA wrong minded obsession and Nuclear Subs because this is a serious China thread not a tour of Chinese restaurants that you have patronised nor a discussion of the efficacy of the exclusion button.

I would imagine that, being a mainstream kinda gal, you could enlighten the Count/Zac current discussion about the willingness of most people to implicitly trust the media on everything apart from football. Your post at #231 where you encourage readers to go over to your "music" threads and zone out, provides a fair indication as to your vapid interests so, for a moment, turn your thoughts away from pop music and answer The Count and Zac. Why do you trust the MSM? Why do you want to hear nothing about China and the Ukraine. Your response should be no more than 5000 words.

[Paddo Colt 61]

[QUOTE=eddie; I can't agree with Chinas stance on the AUKUS agreement.
If it involved nuclear weapons it would be a different story, but a nuclear powered submarine is the only true submarine. Diesel/electric is ancient tech and only equates to a submersible.
It's about time we got something useful from the americans.


I think that it's about nuclear proliferation in any form Eddie. It's not just the Chinese who complain, the region is uneasy including Indonesia which is not anti China by the way. We're here in the Asia/Pacific behaving as the US's deputy sheriff and we are pretty much out of step with our neighbours. We are on what, if one applies objective thought, is a fool's errand. Keating calls those who guide our fortunes, Austral-Americans.

Those subs will be part manned by Americans. Doesn't that look like an "all the way" gesture on our part? Of all the nations, we could live in splendid, neutral isolation down here thousands of miles from care but we have a martial power elite committed to Capitalism and confident that a population, fed on Anzac-ery for generations, supports militarism and US Exceptionalism.

[mightyrooster]

Sorry to sidetrack your thread Paddo. But I need to just say that I agree wholeheartedly with RWB about not having egos take over her and Eddie’s music threads. Which is why I questioned 4 months of control by one poster. Perhaps this is where the use of the ignore function becomes problematic. But I am happy to go with whatever the majority decides. Not a problem at all. I’ve spent most of my life trying to be fair to everyone, much to my detriment over the years. In fact it’s probably a fault of mine, trying too hard to be inclusive and conciliatory. But one thing’s for certain, I will speak up when I believe I am being falsely misrepresented and my character questioned. Again sorry Paddo and everyone for the sidetrack.

[A Country Member]

A fool’s errand alright.

Those clever mericans have got us sussed. With plenty of fools to spare, they’ve engaged us to fight their war, at no human cost to themselves. Brilliant!

I am sure all the fools, their children and their grandchildren will happily go on a tour of south east Asia, perhaps only one way, to uphold the merican way of guns, gluttony, gas and glory.

[eddie]

Those subs will be part manned by Americans.

I didn't know that.
Is it a temporary thing for training purposes ?

[Andrew Walker]

Sorry to sidetrack your thread Paddo. But I need to just say that I agree wholeheartedly with RWB about not having egos take over her and Eddie’s music threads. Which is why I questioned 4 months of control by one poster. Perhaps this is where the use of the ignore function becomes problematic. But I am happy to go with whatever the majority decides. Not a problem at all. I’ve spent most of my life trying to be fair to everyone, much to my detriment over the years. In fact it’s probably a fault of mine, trying too hard to be inclusive and conciliatory. But one thing’s for certain, I will speak up when I believe I am being falsely misrepresented and my character questioned. Again sorry Paddo and everyone for the sidetrack.

Hi MR I have chosen the path of enlightenment with the poster you speak of ( not PC ) In that whilst I dont put them on ignore I find there is no need to respond to their comments. I will respond to your comments on this ( as you are worthy of a response ) you make a valid point on why you have chosen to respond and the said poster is trying to do just that by misrepresenting not only your character but others as well. So speaking up is a good thing when you feel it is necessary Much better than letting racist comments go unchecked because it happened in a zoom meeting That is another sign of a weak character

Best move on back to China now I look forward to the said posters response to PCs questions on her thoughts on the matter. So far they have joined this thread and offered nothing in the way of discussion about this (unlike yourself who has put forward your views on all of these types of threads ) Personally I think PC will get nothing in response as I think the said poster doesnt really have much between the ears when it comes to these type of things and in my personal experiences is one who will tell you what they think you want to hear if that is what best suits them

I to wish to offer my apologies to PC for going a little off track but I am hoping the said poster can show that they havent just come here with the sole intention of trying to derail this thread, which so far it appears that is the case. Of course such a notion can easily be debunked by answering PCs questions

[Paddo Colt 61]

[QUOTE=A Country Member; A fools errand alright.

Those clever mericans have got us sussed. With plenty of fools to spare, they’ve engaged us to fight their war, at no human cost to themselves. Brilliant!
I am sure all the fools, their children and their grandchildren will happily go on a tour of south east Asia, perhaps only one way, to uphold the merican way of guns, gluttony, gas and glory.

Reminds me, Count, of that team of blockheads who wanted to invade Vietnam in recent years for a piss up "celebration of the "victory " at Long Tan. Fools here can't see that the Long Tan lie was/is a beat to to bury the disastrous minefield cock up at Nui Dat, the re deployment of which (by the Viet Cong) caused the majority of Australian casualties. All down to our glorious Officer class.

[King Salvo]

Comrade Paddo the airport is calling