Conspiracy theory

[bondi paul]

I thought Farah was brilliant last nite in his dealing with the ref- the way he spoke to the ref and how and what he said was just so impressive and correct. players in the past would have called the ref a cheat!

[Guest]

I thought Farah was brilliant last nite in his dealing with the ref- the way he spoke to the ref and how and what he said was just so impressive and correct. players in the past would have called the ref a cheat!

I reckon he was right too - forget complicated obstruction rulings, that was a good old fashioned shepherd.

[Guest]

BTW, is Dessie the grumpiest human being since Ricky?

[Guest]

It is laughable that people think the the nrl is influencing refs to give the rub of the green to dogs and bunnies in matches. Imagine the shit that would go down if this where found to be true. It would probably kill the nrl off for good.
When teams are winning, they always seem to get the 50-50 calls. Look at origin, qld seem to always get the 50-50 calls go there way because they are such a great side. It's no different here, the dogs and bunnies aswell as the storm always seem to get those 50-50 calls and when there is a howler of a decision like last night, majority of the time they seem to be on the receiving end. It's just how it is.
That last try from the dogs was a ridiculous call but in some way, if you read the rule book properly Harrigan will find a way to prove that it was the right call ie. the defender chose to attempt to tackle
The decoy runner.

[Hawkeye]

When teams are winning, they always seem to get the 50-50 calls. Lo.

and the luck too !
Korobeite was over under the post with no one around, then tripped on an ant and the defense caught him. A converted try there instead of the unconverted try he scored a minute later would've had the Tigers winning without extra time. I know he was ankle tapped, but he seemed to have beaten the attempted ankle tap, ran a few more strides and then fell ....dogs were very very lucky there !

The irony to the above is that it wasn't all that long ago, we were all saying the Tigers were the team continually getting the rub of the green from the refs !

[Guest]

If the refs are helping the Dogs, they're doing a bang up job. The Bulldogs have only won three penalty counts this year! But they don't throwel the towel in like our softcocks when something goes against them.

[Cockadoodledoo]

It is laughable that people think the the nrl is influencing refs to give the rub of the green to dogs and bunnies in matches. Imagine the shit that would go down if this where found to be true. It would probably kill the nrl off for good.
When teams are winning, they always seem to get the 50-50 calls. Look at origin, qld seem to always get the 50-50 calls go there way because they are such a great side. It's no different here, the dogs and bunnies aswell as the storm always seem to get those 50-50 calls and when there is a howler of a decision like last night, majority of the time they seem to be on the receiving end. It's just how it is.
That last try from the dogs was a ridiculous call but in some way, if you read the rule book properly Harrigan will find a way to prove that it was the right call ie. the defender chose to attempt to tackle
The decoy runner.

Corruption has been proven in almost every major sporting competition in the world in recent years. Why do you think a minor one in the overall scheme of things such as the NRL would be exempt. BTW check penalty statistics for the last few years. Parramatta and the Sharks consistently receive and conceed less penalties than most teams every year whilst running towards the bottom of the ladder..

[Guest]

Corruption has been proven in almost every major sporting competition in the world in recent years. Why do you think a minor one in the overall scheme of things such as the NRL would be exempt. BTW check penalty statistics for the last few years. Parramatta and the Sharks consistently receive and conceed less penalties than most teams every year whilst running towards the bottom of the ladder..

Still not buying into the NRL fixing matches by way of favouring sides.
I was more saying with 50-50 calls that the better teams seem to get the rub of the green

[Chook Norris]

If the refs are helping the Dogs, they're doing a bang up job. The Bulldogs have only won three penalty counts this year! But they don't throwel the towel in like our softcocks when something goes against them.

^this

it'd have to be one intricate conspiracy wanting them to win but disguising it all with the 2nd worse penalty count in the nrl

[Guest]

^this

it'd have to be one intricate conspiracy wanting them to win but disguising it all with the 2nd worse penalty count in the nrl

Without supporting the conspiracy theorists, net penalty counts are less important than where and when penalties are given.

Plus, most games with a lopsided penalty count early will even up later in the match as generally refs give square up penalties once the game is effectively over. Also, how 50/50 tries are dealt with are often far more important than a few penalties.

Just saying that losing penalty counts is not the be all and end all regarding favoured refereeing.

[melon....]

It would probably kill the nrl off for good.
.

Good. Who cares. if we arent afforded a level playing field why put up with it.**** the game if its biased.

[Guest]

Good. Who cares. if we arent afforded a level playing field why put up with it.**** the game if its biased.

It's not.

[Guest]

Still not buying into the NRL fixing matches by way of favouring sides.
I was more saying with 50-50 calls that the better teams seem to get the rub of the green

agree totally. That's part of the reason they are the good sides, they know how far things can be pushed, and they know what the positions and situations are that if you put yourself into, you run the risk of having what might be a 50/50 call go against you. I'm not a soccer fan, but an example of this is the socceroos in that world cup 1/4 final? against Italy where Lucas Neil had that penalty given against him in the last minute for bringing that guy down in the box. General consensus was that a penalty shouldn't have been awarded, but also that Neil erred in getting himself into a position (on the ground) that meant that a penalty could be given.

In terms of holding down after the tackle has been made, watch the smart teams and how they operate. They might hold a guy down for a split second too long at the start of the count, but then they play smart and get off in time for the rest of the set. Dumb teams like us do it twice or 3 times in a row and give the ref no choice.

The only people who think that referees are actually cheating and favouring various clubs, or that instructions to that effect come from the administration, are clueless, one eyed fans.

[Burnt Rooster]

You can add this one to the theory list as well, now that the new rights have been established for another 5 years, and the league have a nice bundle of money, as much as they deny it, you can bet expansion is back on the drawing boards, and clubs like ours, in Sydney, not performing, and with a small supporter base, will have only 3 options available to them, from now on.
1. Remain competitive, and by that I mean in the top four, on a very regular basis.

2. Be forced to merge, with a similar club in the Sydney area, to reduce to numbers of teams in Sydney, or otherwise, take up another option interstate.

3. Keep playing, and being run like a basket case, in which case the League will simply cancel their license, start up a new club altogether, in another state, at this stage, another team in Brisbane, and probably Perth as well.

There is no doubt their objectives now, will be to reduce the number of Sydney based teams, and increase interstate teams, to increase the audience participation to possible new Foxtel customers, who really only get Foxtel for the league, so be warned, the ball is in our court.

[Guest]

agree totally. That's part of the reason they are the good sides, they know how far things can be pushed, and they know what the positions and situations are that if you put yourself into, you run the risk of having what might be a 50/50 call go against you. I'm not a soccer fan, but an example of this is the socceroos in that world cup 1/4 final? against Italy where Lucas Neil had that penalty given against him in the last minute for bringing that guy down in the box. General consensus was that a penalty shouldn't have been awarded, but also that Neil erred in getting himself into a position (on the ground) that meant that a penalty could be given.

In terms of holding down after the tackle has been made, watch the smart teams and how they operate. They might hold a guy down for a split second too long at the start of the count, but then they play smart and get off in time for the rest of the set. Dumb teams like us do it twice or 3 times in a row and give the ref no choice.

The only people who think that referees are actually cheating and favouring various clubs, or that instructions to that effect come from the administration, are clueless, one eyed fans.

There is no conspiracy, I don't think people seriously believe that.

You say the "better teams" get the 50-50 calls, I agree with that.

The problem is and I have been saying it for a while now is that the refs are going into the game with a preconceived idea of what it going to happen. They are watching tapes and discussing which teams and players have better/worse defence, who is lazy, who is milking and so on. They are going into games with an idea of which team is better and that's why you tend to see calls go a certain way.

What they should do is simplify the rules, learn them well and then go into the game with a clear mind and enforce them. Not this shit we see now where they are over coached and over analyzing rules and coming up with stupid interpretations that no one understands.