Salary Cap to rise to 5.8m in 2013

[Rooster_6]

lol this is becoming a bit of a joke.

You'd think they would have sorted this out before teams went back for the pre-season at least.

Hopefully some re-signings to come before the start of the season.

[Guest]

Hopefully Pearce re-signs before the season starts,,

[Burnt Rooster]

Your right Rooster 6, this whole new direction thing has been a Head Office shambles , I cant help that David Gallop, once the dust has settled, was happy to be out of the job,seeing how things were unravelling there. They have alot to do too make up for the bumbling errors of late, John Grant doesnt do it for me, I have him in the wood duck class at the moment, and not looking like rising from that status in the immediate future. Thank god this is such a great game, or it was, it has had some immense problems thrown at it, since its inception, but somehow manages to keep charging on.

[Salvatori Grubber]

I'm not so sure the Commission is in such a bad way.

This new CEO (when he comes) will be good, I feel. Business is business, and once the penny drops and he gets league, it becomes a matter of order, insight, acumen and leadership.

Gallop was a lawyer. That made him formiddable to a degree as he was smart and defensive (like all lawyers). But that doesn't mean he got business, that he had vision for the game, or that he could intil confidence in his staff, sponsors and suppliers and lead.

It might take Smith over a year to really begin to improve the game in leaps-and-bounds, but I wouldn't be surprised if he did.

[Salvatori Grubber]

As for Grant, I'll reserve judgement on him for when the new dude has begun to make his impression felt. I'd say towards the end of next season.

[stephenj]

at least its nolonger run by newscorp? or is it?

[Guest]

Your right Rooster 6, this whole new direction thing has been a Head Office shambles , I cant help that David Gallop, once the dust has settled, was happy to be out of the job,seeing how things were unravelling there. They have alot to do too make up for the bumbling errors of late, John Grant doesnt do it for me, I have him in the wood duck class at the moment, and not looking like rising from that status in the immediate future. Thank god this is such a great game, or it was, it has had some immense problems thrown at it, since its inception, but somehow manages to keep charging on.

You need to stop reading the morons at the telushit. The ARLC is 10 to the power of 10% better at running the game than Noise limited and their manchurian candidate Gallop. Had Gallop still been in charge we would not have reached the $bill mark for the rights deal as he would have under sold the rights like he did previously, that's why noise limited wanted him in the job for 4 more years, to rape the game for all they could.

The ARLC makes decisions with no bias, no preference and with no media company watching over their shoulder and the decisons they have made have been very good ones.

Sacking Gallop = Good.
Rights Deal = Good and getting better.
New CEO = Good.
Not caving in to greedy players = Good.
Ignoring the tards at the tele = Good.
Strategic Plan = Good.
$300 Mill Future Fund = Good.

This Commission has been in charge for less than a year, peeps need to give them time and ignore the farktards and their blantanly biased bullshit.

Chook.

[Rooster_6]

You need to stop reading the morons at the telushit. The ARLC is 10 to the power of 10% better at running the game than Noise limited and their manchurian candidate Gallop. Had Gallop still been in charge we would not have reached the $bill mark for the rights deal as he would have under sold the rights like he did previously, that's why noise limited wanted him in the job for 4 more years, to rape the game for all they could.

The ARLC makes decisions with no bias, no preference and with no media company watching over their shoulder and the decisons they have made have been very good ones.

Sacking Gallop = Good.
Rights Deal = Good and getting better.
New CEO = Good.
Not caving in to greedy players = Good.
Ignoring the tards at the tele = Good.
Strategic Plan = Good.
$300 Mill Future Fund = Good.

This Commission has been in charge for less than a year, peeps need to give them time and ignore the farktards and their blantanly biased bullshit.

Chook.

Rights Deal = Passable, we were always going to get 1billion +, there was never really any doubt about that what a lot of fans wanted was more preferential terms and conditions but that hasn't changed one bit.

New CEO = Unknown and untested.

Not caving into the players = Did you even read the title of this thread? They've just taken more money out of the future fund to increase the cap for THIS year.

Strategic plan = lol, every company has strategic plans they're just not usually publicly released. This is basic year 11 Business studies stuff.

Future Fund = Good, but decreasing every day.

Banning of the shoulder charge = disaster, they failed to get the opinions of their two largest stakeholders (players & fans)

Salary cap discussions = failure, they've taken way too long for something that should have been completed some time ago

Expansion = failure, they've stuffed around clubs who are pouring millions of dollars into bids and refuse to outline their long term plan for the game.


I'm a huge supporter of the Independent commission, I'm just not convinced that the people in charge at the moment are the right ones. Getting rid of News & Gallop was a huge positive but that doesn't mean I blindly support whatever comes afterwards.

[SConcierge]

lol this is becoming a bit of a joke.

You'd think they would have sorted this out before teams went back for the pre-season at least.

Hopefully some re-signings to come before the start of the season.

They had to wait for the media right deal to go through, they also have the radio and NZ rights to go.... u cant rush these things or u will undersell.

You need to stop reading the morons at the telushit. The ARLC is 10 to the power of 10% better at running the game than Noise limited and their manchurian candidate Gallop. Had Gallop still been in charge we would not have reached the $bill mark for the rights deal as he would have under sold the rights like he did previously, that's why noise limited wanted him in the job for 4 more years, to rape the game for all they could.

The ARLC makes decisions with no bias, no preference and with no media company watching over their shoulder and the decisons they have made have been very good ones.

Sacking Gallop = Good.
Rights Deal = Good and getting better.
New CEO = Good.
Not caving in to greedy players = Good.
Ignoring the tards at the tele = Good.
Strategic Plan = Good.
$300 Mill Future Fund = Good.

This Commission has been in charge for less than a year, peeps need to give them time and ignore the farktards and their blantanly biased bullshit.

Chook.

I couldnt agree more Gallop was a rort and these new figures prove it.

[Guest]

Rights Deal = Passable, we were always going to get 1billion +, there was never really any doubt about that what a lot of fans wanted was more preferential terms and conditions but that hasn't changed one bit.

New CEO = Unknown and untested.

Not caving into the players = Did you even read the title of this thread? They've just taken more money out of the future fund to increase the cap for THIS year.

Strategic plan = lol, every company has strategic plans they're just not usually publicly released. This is basic year 11 Business studies stuff.

Future Fund = Good, but decreasing every day.

Banning of the shoulder charge = disaster, they failed to get the opinions of their two largest stakeholders (players & fans)

Salary cap discussions = failure, they've taken way too long for something that should have been completed some time ago

Expansion = failure, they've stuffed around clubs who are pouring millions of dollars into bids and refuse to outline their long term plan for the game.


I'm a huge supporter of the Independent commission, I'm just not convinced that the people in charge at the moment are the right ones. Getting rid of News & Gallop was a huge positive but that doesn't mean I blindly support whatever comes afterwards.

Do you read what you write?

Bullshit we were "always going to get a bill +", where was that garuntee? Before Gallop was sacked papers were quoting 8-9 hundred mill and it was only after the ARLC took over was Gallop removed from all aspects of the tv rights negotiations and up went the ante.

The new CEO ran international banks, hardly unknown and untested.

Raising the cap for THIS year, 2012 really 6, do you read what you write?

The only strategy we've had under Gallop was give everything to his old bosses noise limited, including cart blanche over the Melb rort. Have you read the plan 6? It quotes crowd numbers, membership numbers, everything the ARLC and it's plan aim to see increase.

Banning the shoulder charge was a smart decision as it protects the players, the ARLC and the future fund long term from being gouged by law suits.

They've been in salray cap discussions for months with players and their representatives 6, do you actually read what you write?

You cannot continually expand without the talent to effectively represent the new teams. If you continually dilute the talent pool, we'll end up with a two teir comp. The ARLC can see this.

Whose blindly supporting them 6?

Chook.

[Guest]

The best thing about the new deal done by the ARLC is that most of it is cash..

The last deal done by the Snooze Ltd lackey Gallop was only 65% cash & the rest contra..

[Guest]

The best thing about the new deal done by the ARLC is that most of it is cash..

The last deal done by the Snooze Ltd lackey Gallop was only 65% cash & the rest contra..

Yep.

[Guest]

The fact is the new TV and mobile deals are bringing in more than double the money, that's a pretty good achievement.

Yes some aspects of the TV deal suck but not many predicted they would get that much money. Also on paper the mobile rights deal looks very strong. Not only have they reportedly doubled the money they will also get additional revenue from tablet viewers and app downloads.

Even Paul Kent who was one of the journos reporting the NRL would not get as much as the AFL has changed his view.

There is no chance if News was still involved in the game we would be in this position.

Regarding the cap the guys on the commission aren't stupid, they would know how to negotiate and they wouldn't be paying more than what they could afford. Also from all reports the players union is pretty much a toothless tiger, they don't have much power.

They have made the right choice employing business people to run the game for now. These people make money for a living, they will be able to set the game up for years to come.

[Rooster_6]

Bullshit we were "always going to get a bill +", where was that garuntee? Before Gallop was sacked papers were quoting 8-9 hundred mill and it was only after the ARLC took over was Gallop removed from all aspects of the tv rights negotiations and up went the ante.

All quotes from before David Gallop was sacked, including the fact that Nine & Fox lodged their 1bn dollar bid on May 08, a month before David Gallop was sacked…

“RUGBY LEAGUE is guaranteed a $1.2 billion broadcasting deal, with monopoly pay-TV network Fox Sports declaring it won't be beaten for the five-year rights.” Source: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/l...#ixzz2ExE6S4Fz

“Fox Sports will maintain 'Super Saturday' and a Sunday game and will benefit from the ability to simulcast all matches. The NRL will break $1 billion.” Source: http://www.backpagelead.com.au/leagu...he-nrl-tv-deal

CHANNEL Nine and the pay TV programmer Fox Sports will have to wait three months to to see whether their $1 billion-plus bid for rugby league broadcast rights has been successful. The new CEO ran international banks, hardly unknown and untested. Source: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/l...skin=text-only

Regardless of who was in charge the Independent Commission got us the money and deserve some credit but CH9 still have far too much say in the fixtures and that was one of the biggest issues heading into the new negotiations. The only favourable condition was that 9 & Fox no longer have the last bid option.

Raising the cap for THIS year, 2012 really 6, do you read what you write?

I think it’s fairly obvious what I meant, the 2013 season.

The only strategy we've had under Gallop was give everything to his old bosses noise limited, including cart blanche over the Melb rort. Have you read the plan 6? It quotes crowd numbers, membership numbers, everything the ARLC and it's plan aim to see increase.

Yeh I’ve read it, there’s not really a whole lot to it. A few targets to reach but that’s about all. Crowds & memberships numbers have been on the rise for quite some time now, I’d be disappointed if they didn’t continue to rise at the rate they have been. Especially membership numbers which have rocketed over the past 5 years. I still remember when we used to have about 1500 – 2000 members and now we’re targeting 10,000 plus. This is something the NRL have been pushing for some time now, they just never publicly released their strategic plan.

Banning the shoulder charge was a smart decision as it protects the players, the ARLC and the future fund long term from being gouged by law suits.

I’m not going to argue personal opinions, everyone is entitled to theirs. What I’m questioning is the methods used to come up with result. I never said the outcome was wrong, I said the way they reached it was as they failed to seek the opinions of crucial stakeholders.

They've been in salray cap discussions for months with players and their representatives 6, do you actually read what you write?

I’m well aware of that, they’ve failed to do it in a timely manner. We really shouldn’t still be discussing the salary cap for 2013, every club has almost finalised their salary cap. It’s just unprofessional to say the least.

You cannot continually expand without the talent to effectively represent the new teams. If you continually dilute the talent pool, we'll end up with a two teir comp. The ARLC can see this.

I never said otherwise, my stance on expansion is irrelevant to the point I raised. I’m questioning why the Independent Commission haven’t outlined their plans for expansion in the medium to long term future. There’s numerous bids around the country that have locals and businessmen pouring plenty of money and time into them and they’re getting stuffed around at the moment.

The Independent commission have been in charge for 12 months now, surely they have some idea as to what state the believe the game to be in, where they want to expand the game to, which bids are wasting their time and money and how the potential bids can start working on building ground work for a potential franchise in the NRL.

[Guest]

Well said Chook.
I'm not in total agreeable with you on a couple of things though. The shoulder charge for 1 didn't need to get banned. Just a flat out automatic 4week suspension if you come in contact with the head of an opponent without trying to make a effort to use your arms, then extra weeks for the amount of damaged caused. That would have made players realise its a high risk play and is it worth it. There is still a place in the game for two big men colliding shoulder to shoulder or chest IMO.
The other point is the greedy players part. They are restricted big time on the amount of money they can earn by the cap. If a player can get an extra $150-200 k in third party deals as long as its not an affiliated sponsor to there club they should be allowed too but I think the current cap takes a percentage of that. I may be wrong but that's how I understand it. The current rise also from my understanding is more to do with the minimum wage. It's so the players at the bottom of the scope can get an increase not so much the top tier players.