I hope they ban the leech from our TV screens.

[Guest]

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politi...326-2gs9r.html

Cigarette advertising is banned from sport because it's infuencial and harmful to people. Same goes for gambling advertising imo. The Waterhouses have been leeching off the working class for decades but Tom has taken it to an all new level of bleeding people out of their money. I know there are a lot of gamblers here who will disagree. But I for one am glad my son is not interested in League these days as all he'd see are odds, betting options, phone numbers and websites on how to bet live as well as Tom "the third generation leech" Waterhouse and Glen "I need another chin so bet now" Munzie telling him to bet now.

I hope this senate hearing bans all forms of gambling advertising before, during and after League games.

Chook.

[chook 56]

After watching a few games so far this year, that have been inundated with this advertising, agree totally Chook.
Every time there is a break in play this is what we get.
Sick of it.

Will it make me want to place a bet? NO!
Will it make me despise the whole betting system even more than I already do? YES!

Waaaay overdue for regulation, imo.

[stsae]

I just wanna slap the carnt.

Ruin that smarmy smile.

The whole Waterhouse clan irk me. I'm not into gambling and all my adult life I've been forced to know about that shit cos it's everywhere you look in the media. That Gay Mum, what a farking pisstake, she's revered like some farking princess.

At least Ricko has infiltrated and is hopefully spending some of their considerable wealth. Nice to see a Bondi Boy doing the deed.

[Guest]

I have no problem with a pre game, half time updates on the markets. The segment at the end about the next days racing is pretty good to hear what Ray and Gould think.

There should be no updates on the screen, or during ad breaks when the game is on.

Please Chook, bleeding off the working class? These people need to get there priorities right if they are betting above their means. I suppose you have no worries about the Packers and the like doing there dough in large amounts?

Ahh the nanny state. People just cant look after themselves, and need the government to live our lives.

[Guest]

I have no problem with a pre game, half time updates on the markets. The segment at the end about the next days racing is pretty good to hear what Ray and Gould think.

There should be no updates on the screen, or during ad breaks when the game is on.

Please Chook, bleeding off the working class? These people need to get there priorities right if they are betting above their means. I suppose you have no worries about the Packers and the like doing there dough in large amounts?

Ahh the nanny state. People just cant look after themselves, and need the government to live our lives.

Rugby League is a working class game so advertising heavily reaches the intended audience. You don't have to be smart to work who they are targetting. And if you don't think advertising works as it is intended, to sucker people into thinking they can win gambling, then you clearly have nfi.

Chook.

[Guest]

Rugby League is a working class game so advertising heavily reaches the intended audience. You don't have to be smart to work who they are targetting. And if you don't think advertising works as it is intended, to sucker people into thinking they can win gambling, then you clearly have nfi.

Chook.

By the sounds of it you think that betting and gambling only happens in the working class Rugby League. Open your eyes and look around, it is involved in all sports.

Yes the problem is that, the poor are generally the silly fools that bet the dole cheque away before feeding the family, but who's fault is that?

Who do you think they should advertise their business to? There is huge betting on the NRL. Makes business sence to me.

[stsae]

By the sounds of it you think that betting and gambling only happens in the working class Rugby League. Open your eyes and look around, it is involved in all sports.

Yes the problem is that, the poor are generally the silly fools that bet the dole cheque away before feeding the family, but who's fault is that?

Who do you think they should advertise their business to? There is huge betting on the NRL. Makes business sence to me.

The less advantaged are always targeted by advertising for gambling and alcohol, among others, cos the companies know they are their bread and butter payoff.

It's lack of education that forces us into the poor category generally.

More educated humans tend not to fall For slick gimmicks.

Answer this, why do they always try to appeal to the "average" punter??? Try to make out they are "champions" of the people???

It's about their (advertisers) target audience.

Smart carnts spend lifetimes working out who to target so as to make the maximum profit for their clients.

I'm guessing you don't have children Adz???

Personally I don't want my kids watching that shit during footy games. They will cop enough as they grow up with the good old Aussie "punt" mentality as it is. I don't see why they should have it pushed on their impressionable minds so early as the "norm". It's advertising under stealth for kids. And it's something that may cause them to have a problem with as they get older.

I had to laugh the other day at a radio ad, saying something along the lines how our clubs are helping with problem gambling, some throw away line about being part of the solution and interested in our welfare.

Some of the worst stuff are those ads where the blokes are in the pub and have a win and they are in slow mo as they prance up to collect. Sure to me it's humorous but when kids are sitting there laughing what sort of message is that leaving on them???

Sure this problem goes deeper than RL. But the fact it's now infiltrated to the actual game, mid game, and we have smarmy blokes in suits telling us odds is not a good look IMO.

And when scandals arise with gambling in our sport again. Hypocrisy. Profit. Enjoy.

[chook 56]

Good post, son of Bwian.

Spot on.

[Guest]

By the sounds of it you think that betting and gambling only happens in the working class Rugby League. Open your eyes and look around, it is involved in all sports.

Yes the problem is that, the poor are generally the silly fools that bet the dole cheque away before feeding the family, but who's fault is that?

Who do you think they should advertise their business to? There is huge betting on the NRL. Makes business sence to me.

My learned son makes a good point about betting and its influence on the code, just look at the Ryan Tandy incident. When you have a mechanism - gambling - that can and has influenced games, then you have a major problem with the integrity of the code itself, makes no sense to me to swap integrity for a few dollars of advertising.

No one wants to see a gambling epidemic, but Tom Waterhouse is willfully flaunting the rules of gambling avertising which state - there can be no gambling advertising during G rate shows, however sport is exempt, which is why he's so heavily involved in channel nein during Rugby League. It's his way of advertising to the next generation of gamblers and it's bullshit wrong is what it is.

He can fark off to the track with his dad/uncle/brother/mother. If people are stupid enough to go to the track to bet, so be it, but it shouldn't be rammed down our throats.

Chook.

[Hawkeye]

So long as you say "gamble responsibly" ....... then its all ok !


Reminds me of the Seinfeld episode about gays and finishing every reference with "not that there's anything wrong with it"

[Guest]

The less advantaged are always targeted by advertising for gambling and alcohol, among others, cos the companies know they are their bread and butter payoff.

It's lack of education that forces us into the poor category generally.

More educated humans tend not to fall For slick gimmicks.

Answer this, why do they always try to appeal to the "average" punter??? Try to make out they are "champions" of the people???

It's about their (advertisers) target audience.

Smart carnts spend lifetimes working out who to target so as to make the maximum profit for their clients.

I'm guessing you don't have children Adz???

Personally I don't want my kids watching that shit during footy games. They will cop enough as they grow up with the good old Aussie "punt" mentality as it is. I don't see why they should have it pushed on their impressionable minds so early as the "norm". It's advertising under stealth for kids. And it's something that may cause them to have a problem with as they get older.

I had to laugh the other day at a radio ad, saying something along the lines how our clubs are helping with problem gambling, some throw away line about being part of the solution and interested in our welfare.

Some of the worst stuff are those ads where the blokes are in the pub and have a win and they are in slow mo as they prance up to collect. Sure to me it's humorous but when kids are sitting there laughing what sort of message is that leaving on them???

Sure this problem goes deeper than RL. But the fact it's now infiltrated to the actual game, mid game, and we have smarmy blokes in suits telling us odds is not a good look IMO.

And when scandals arise with gambling in our sport again. Hypocrisy. Profit. Enjoy.

I have 2 kids Stsae. Personally I choose to teach them about what a gambling is about, and what a mugs game it is. You see there are so many things out there that we can blame others for, yet I choose to place a small wager. I choose what TV shows my kids watch.

Its all about personal responsibility. Call me crazy.

You know we even had an anti bully day held at the school the other day. Give me a break, I grew up with freckles, and was teased alot. I wouldn't have called it bullying, it just helped with teaching me some wit, and good comebacks.

Maybe my issue is that government. I prefer a free market for all.

[Guest]

My learned son makes a good point about betting and its influence on the code, just look at the Ryan Tandy incident. When you have a mechanism - gambling - that can and has influenced games, then you have a major problem with the integrity of the code itself, makes no sense to me to swap integrity for a few dollars of advertising.

No one wants to see a gambling epidemic, but Tom Waterhouse is willfully flaunting the rules of gambling avertising which state - there can be no gambling advertising during G rate shows, however sport is exempt, which is why he's so heavily involved in channel nein during Rugby League. It's his way of advertising to the next generation of gamblers and it's bullshit wrong is what it is.

He can fark off to the track with his dad/uncle/brother/mother. If people are stupid enough to go to the track to bet, so be it, but it shouldn't be rammed down our throats.

Chook.

Gee, like cheating and match fixing just started when Toms mug appeared on TV.

We all need the government in our lives, telling us what to do. Oh wait! That's what we have now.

[stsae]

I have 2 kids Stsae. Personally I choose to teach them about what a gambling is about, and what a mugs game it is. You see there are so many things out there that we can blame others for, yet I choose to place a small wager. I choose what TV shows my kids watch.

Its all about personal responsibility. Call me crazy.

You know we even had an anti bully day held at the school the other day. Give me a break, I grew up with freckles, and was teased alot. I wouldn't have called it bullying, it just helped with teaching me some wit, and good comebacks.

Maybe my issue is that government. I prefer a free market for all.

You are only looking at it from your point of view mate.

Advertising isn't targeting me or you or Chook we obviously think for ourselves.

It's targeting the next generation. Those that aren't as strong willed.

I'm all for less Govt involvement in our lives. I too teach my kids right from wrong.

But look at the gambling and grog ads. Look at how they are slick and have catchy tunes and beautiful people "winning" all the time.

The reality of both industries is very much different to what we are hit with in ads.

Look at what the abuse factor is in both industries. Look at the toll our hospitals and police are hit with daily from both industries. Us taxpayers are paying for this.

The same me you and Chook.

Not every kid has the same advantages as ours, parents who will teach them right from wrong. But we all pay somewhere down the line.

I don't see anyone trying to stop gambling as such here. We all have our own minds to make up. But when you can't sit down to watch the footy with your kids without being hammered with advertising for gambling, well that just isn't right, no matter if you like the punt or not.

We all know ciggies are wrong. People still choose to smoke. But advertising has been banned for close to 20 years on them. And it hasn't stopped smokers being informed.

Is there any difference with gambling??? The social effects??? The monetary effects??? On all our tax $$$$???

If you can show me how the gambling fraternity will lose out without advertising associated with RL, especially mid-game, well I will apologize.

It hasn't happened with ciggie or alcohol companies. It wont happen with gambling agencies.

And maybe a few less kids will be exposed too early to advertising that is done to teach their impressionable minds to associate RL with gambling.

Its not taking away our liberties or free choice. It's not imposing something on minds that don't yet have the ability to comprehend such complexities.

As I said there's a reason advertising companies target their audience the way they do. Profit. And future profit is money in the bank baby.

[Guest]

Gee, like cheating and match fixing just started when Toms mug appeared on TV.

We all need the government in our lives, telling us what to do. Oh wait! That's what we have now.

I'll just assume you're being deliberately retarded with this post and leave it at that.

Chook.

[Guest]

Unfortunately the NRL/ARLC sold their soul for $1b gold coins & now they have to live with whatever the broadcasters who bought the game need to do to make that money back, hence Waterhouse's $50m over 5 year deal. The parallel I draw is with the way the government couldn't survive without the revenue from pokies, tobacco & grog, which makes it very difficult for them to lobby for more legislation against their so called cash cows, there is no coming back from jumping into bed with the devil, same with the NRL/ARLC, what other industry could inject the type of funds we are now seeing available to the NRL/ARLC?