Toddy screwed

[Kingbilly]

Good to see you round #56, you are my type of looney

[stephenj]

welcome back#56 if your a friend of rwb your ok with me!

[Jacks Fur Coat]

Indeed welcome back Chook56.

You are one of the good guys.

We were getting worried.

[Bansai Pipeline]

Good piece in The Guardian about this -

http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...t-surveillance

Todd Carney achieved a new milestone in the moment that ended his NRL career: he attracted US media coverage.

The images of him “bubbling” were irresistible to sports/snark site Deadspin, which commended his “impressive accuracy”. But the first commenter encapsulated the bewilderment of many outsiders at the moralism of Australian sport, and the Sharks’ swift, rough justice: “This is disgusting, but why would you cut someone from your team for this?”

It’s a good question, and not just for the NRL. Just as important are the questions of how Carney came to be in this predicament, and whether the Sharks should be able to sack him on this basis. Remember that as Russell Jackson pointed out yesterday, his behaviour, however ill-advised, was only harmful to himself.

What if a panicky club, under the shadow of a doping investigation, struggling with a legacy of mismanagement, and possibly under pressure from the NRL, threw a momentarily errant player under the bus? This seems to be Carney’s view.

His match-winning performance on Friday night certainly did not seem like the work of someone who had relapsed into alcoholism. It’s said that Carney is a repeat offender. No doubt he had his troubles at the Raiders. The Sharks claim this is his third misdemeanour since joining the club. In my opinion there’s no good reason to take their word for anything.

Even if they’re right, all it proves it that the club was willing to overlook Carney's shenanigans until they became a PR problem. In other words, he came to grief because his dick went viral.

It’s impossible to imagine this story without the image and social media allowing it to spread quickly, and uncensored. Mainstream media then not only ran the story about Carney's bubble trouble, but followed recent custom by making its spread on social media the subject of still more stories. On Fairfax websites, Ben Grubb offered some 500 words and a graph showing a timeline of the story’s mentions.

The NRL has seen players do much worse and receive far less punishment. Nate Myles defecated in a hallway and copped a fine and a suspension. Carney’s problem was that there was a photo, and an appetite for it.

It was the photo — not the toilet behaviour itself — that was the subject of the Sharks’ media release. They said that “the photograph … does not meet the values and standards the club is looking to uphold and take into the future”.

This suggests that Carney — who neither took the snap, posted it online, nor even knew it existed — was sacked for a failure to anticipate the way in which any and all of his behaviour, in whatever context, might be the subject of viral outrage. The implications of this should be troubling. Carney is certainly troubled, telling reporters the whole unexpected incident made him feel sick.

Internet scholar Mark Andrejevic has coined the phrase “drone logic” as a way of explaining how surveillance is networked and ubiquitous. It is not a distant activity carried out by pilotless planes, but is built into our infrastructure of mobile devices and applications.

When we are not being tracked and monitored by our smartphones, we are happy to supplement this by surveilling each other. We are potentially being watched and recorded everywhere we go, in ways we cannot individually influence or control. This also includes the urinal, apparently.

Carney’s career-ending mistake was in not presuming that this extended to the dunny at Northies. The Sharks saw his failure to keep ubiquitous surveillance in mind as a dereliction of professional duty.

Lest we think this is just a problem for celebrities, we should remember the many people who have — unwittingly and unwillingly — become famous themselves as a result of a poorly-worded tweet, an endlessly forwarded email, or an embarrassing video. This is just one way in which the lines of celebrity culture are blurred in the social media era.

Many professionals live and die on reputation, and it's normal now for employers to scrutinise the personas we have constructed in social media. Who could say that their own bosses would react differently to the Sharks to a viral image of bad behaviour?

The most interesting question that arises is not about privacy per se, the very mention of which can now seem rather quaint. Rather, it is whether, by joining in with the derision heaped on Carney, we are endorsing the idea that we have a responsibility to modify our behaviour according to an awareness of constant surveillance.

What happens when we accept that any sufficiently arresting mistake could be broadcast to a global audience? Sure, Todd Carney pissed in his own mouth. But is this really the way we want to live?

[stsae]

I will say if Carntey was in the movies or a singer, an entertainer basically like he technically is, he'd get plenty of publicity for bubbling but in the end probably sell more albums or more tickets.

Strange how footballers are held to some moral code reserved for doctors and teachers etc.

Fark me we have that Hilton chick and the Kardashian one and all they ever did was make a sex tape and from that they have made billions and are hailed as modern and progressive. Shit kids (and adults) actually follow those chicks who basically have no skills other than they can blow a Volkswagen thru a garden hose.

Strange days indeed.

[Guest]

I don't like Noyce.

He shouldn't have sacked him at Easts, and he went overboard again at Cronulla.

It's an overreaction, and it's a bloke's career at stake.

I feel the same way. Carney is a dickhead for sure but he did not harm anyone. He has not committed a crime. I think he has been dealt with in an extremely harsh manner. Perhaps the club (Cronulla) felt there was no other choice. The idiotic alcohol culture that is prevalent in both the NRL and the greater Australian community has struck again.

[stsae]

I feel the same way. Carney is a dickhead for sure but he did not harm anyone. He has not committed a crime. I think he has been dealt with in an extremely harsh manner. Perhaps the club (Cronulla) felt there was no other choice. The idiotic alcohol culture that is prevalent in both the NRL and the greater Australian community has struck again.

I don't believe Carntey should've been sacked for that minor incident alone, especially if he was a kid.

But being 28 yrs old, seeing he'd been sacked from 2 previous clubs and surely was on a final warning at his current one, he really left Noycee without much room to move.

Firstly I believe Noycee signed Carntey to our club. Then sacked him. Then re-signed him for five years just last season, now has had to sack him.

There are also sponsors and members to consider for a club already struggling with the ArSeADA stuff.

IMO it was poor form for Carntey and his manager to blame The NRL and Noycee and The Tardpoles.

It shows he has never learnt or been taught personal responsibility for his actions. And let's face it he's a man, 28 is far too old to pull out excuses any more. Especially considering his past.

Damn shame cos the bloke can play footy. And I believe is a decent bloke, from all reports anyways.

[redwhiteblue]

I'm still mystified as to why the Souths player (and all the other girl bashers) are still running around in the NRL and even representing their states and countries and yet Todd has yet again been made the poster boy for stupidity, nothing else.

[redwhiteblue]

welcome back#56 if your a friend of rwb your ok with me!

It's the quality of the people we have in our little social circle isn't in Stephen? Not the quantity.

[stephenj]

yes Bernie im always more committed to someone if I know them face to face, ive followed your adventures online over the years, you've always showed compassion intellect and a footy brain, I don't have much time for silly people, that's a big weakness of mine!

[redwhiteblue]

Well thanks Stephen. That is mighty kind of you to say. I'm at a point in my life also where I have zero tolerance for dysfunctional people, whether professionally or personally. I've cut my social circle right back to just a couple of special, lovely people and I can tell you I've never been happier or healthier. Staying away from toxic, negative people is my beauty secret..that's why I look so ravenous all the time..I mean ravishing...

[Kingbilly]

, I don't have much time for silly people, that's a big weakness of mine!

I must be the exception to the rule then

[Parkway_Drive]

Steve, I must be another exception to the rule then...lol!

Getting back on the topic of Toddy's sacking and the comments from Jim what ever his name is that the NRL is unlikely to let Toddy can play in its competition in the short to medium term future.

Imagine for one minute, if the Carney incident never actually happened and Beau Ryan performed a skit somewhat not disimilar to Carney's antics for the Footy Show. It would probably hailed by Channel None and the powers that be as ground breaking comedy of pure genius and would help Beau win a Golden Logie.

Carney because of his unsavoury past hammered and King Hitting Billy Slater, that Souffs Centre, for example gets off scott-free.

[redwhiteblue]

Oh look at this for goodness sake - a QLD Rorting Storm player in trouble from a Maroons bonding session:

http://www.sportsfan.com.au/Home/Vid...lt.aspx#661884

[rwbfl]

Todd Carney has lodged an official appeal over his sacking from Cronulla last weekend and claims two members of the Sharks board were not even consulted before the decision was made.
Carney's agent, David Riolo, wrote to the NRL on Friday accusing the Sharks of failing to follow the process for dealing with disciplinary issues outlined in the collective bargaining agreement between the NRL and the Rugby League Players' Association.
Riolo also said Cronulla officials did not have the courtesy to advise Carney that his $3.5 million, five-year contract had been terminated before issuing a media release to announce the star five-eighth had been sacked.
"Todd was on long-term contract at the Sharks and he got fired by a phone call, which ironically came after the press release had already been sent out, and also still hasn't received any written notification five days later of a breach notice or even a termination," Riolo told Triple M.
"There are things within the NRL contract, a process that needs to be followed, and it is clear as day what you have to do, and that is send a breach notice. That then gives the player five days' notice to attend to that and appear before the board.
"None of this has been followed and he has just been treated with complete disrespect. Regardless of the issue, I think everyone deserves a fair hearing. I think Todd would have been able to get a better hearing from a group and a board by being able to front them. I have actually been told from two members of the board who have personally approached me that they weren't even consulted on this, which amazes me."
The Sharks announced Carney's sacking at about 6.30pm last Sunday – less than 24 hours after a vulgar photo of the former NSW Origin five-eighth was posted on Twittter at about 10.45 the night before.
Despite mid-afternoon reports that the Cronulla chairman Damian Keogh and other directors had decided to sack Carney during a phone hook-up, Riolo said Sharks chief executive Steve Noyce told Carney just before the media release was issued that no decision would be made until Monday. He also revealed that Carney's teammates had been "gagged" from commenting on his sacking.
"There were all different things being said and being leaked from their board and allegedly from their chairman," Riolo said. "I know different board members spoke to people in the press to say he was gone, it was on Twitter that he was gone but Steve Noyce was assuring me that wasn't the case and that a decision would be made later in the day. Steve Noyce spoke to Todd in the evening and effectively said 'we will sleep on it', and within 20 minutes there was an email gone around to the players that there was a big announcement coming and none of them were allowed to comment, so they were effectively gagging the players.
"Five minutes later there was a press release and some time after that we were notified that he had been sacked. Surely common courtesy is to let the player and his agent know before the press release."
Riolo also said Noyce should not have been involved after previously sacking Carney from the Sydney Roosters when he was chief executive of the club in 2011.
"I like Steve Noyce, he is a good guy, but I really think he should have stepped back and let the board take care of this, especially given his history in regards to Todd. I don't think he was the right person to be making this decision, and yet him and the chairman have made this decision together,'' he said.
''That is fine, they have to live with that but they also have a process to follow and if they came up with that decision after following the process then I couldn't really argue, but I am not really happy with how this has been handled. I still find it hard to fathom that a professional club still hasn't given any paperwork over five days later when they could quite easily write a press release and put that out."


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