Ricky Stuart quits the Sharks.

[Vasco]

I watched him play Soward at fullback against the Warriors at the SFS.

It was almost as woeful as seeing Anasta at fullback last year.

He would probably make a decent fullback these days. He doesn't need to defend in the front line and can support around the halves and forwards.

He can still kick in general play from there also.

[Guest]

Huh? Isn't it a team game? how can a halfback on his own win a GF?

Are you really that stupid or just being deliberately retarded?

You know damn well what I mean. Stuart, as an ex GF winning halfback, had two opportunities to "coach" Finch to win a GF and he failed, twice! You can leave you blinkers on and ignore that fact if you want, but it'll confirm you have no idea what you're talking about.

Chook.

[Headless Chook]

Ok, where do you draw the line? when CAN a coach be given credit for winning a premiership? what about Jack Gibson in 1974? Did he inherit a team containing Beetson, Mullins, Coote, Walters, Harris, Brass and co? Or what about Wayne Bennett at the Broncos - he inherited a state of origin strength team, right?

with this in mind, can a coach EVER be given credit for winning a premiership?

I prefer to look at the Roosters performances in 2001 (with the same squad, minus Mullins), and then compare it to 2002,3,4. Fittler says in his book that he credits Stuart with revitalising his career, after he almost gave it away.
What does that tell you? it means without Stuart there would have been no premiership.

Stuart has his faults and his problems. but its pure stupidity to throw around these blanket criticisms like "can't coach", "idiot", "useless" etc.

Jack backed it up in 1975, then with Parramatta in 1981, 82 & 83. Stuart should have won two premierships at the least with us. His poor bench rotation contributed to both our losses in 03 & 04 and his player recruitment and retention strategies left us as a club with a 1000 back rowers and no front rowers when Anderson took over. Ricky was a very good coach for us at the time, but I think he's been shown to be a limited mentor over the long term.

[trewhella]

**** its funny reading the comments of people who know absolutely nothing about what the truth might be.

The sharks are a club that has been filled with broken promises.

Unfortunately for Ricky, he has to take some blame there.
Primarily with sponsorship.
He wooed the gullible fools.
Fools that are still on the board for NSW rugby league.

I just find it so amusing as to the intelligence and work experience one needs to make a rugby league board.

Write that one up Becky and Phil.

[Guest]

Sure. But the other poster claimed Stuart said Soward would never play first grade - a patently absurd statement given that Soward played first grade under Stuart in 2006 - at fullback, and at half.

Yes he played first grade....for a time. And then was dumped. Which resulted in him leaving the club asap.
I was at a supporters day at the SFS and Stuart aid Soward would struggle to play 1st grade (at least regulary) because his defence and toughness were not up to scratch.

[melon....]

Ok, where do you draw the line? when CAN a coach be given credit for winning a premiership? what about Jack Gibson in 1974? Did he inherit a team containing Beetson, Mullins, Coote, Walters, Harris, Brass and co? Or what about Wayne Bennett at the Broncos - he inherited a state of origin strength team, right?

with this in mind, can a coach EVER be given credit for winning a premiership?

I prefer to look at the Roosters performances in 2001 (with the same squad, minus Mullins), and then compare it to 2002,3,4. Fittler says in his book that he credits Stuart with revitalising his career, after he almost gave it away.
What does that tell you? it means without Stuart there would have been no premiership.

Stuart has his faults and his problems. but its pure stupidity to throw around these blanket criticisms like "can't coach", "idiot", "useless" etc.

Without Pay and Cartwright there would be no 2002 Premiership at Easts. Stick to writing about AFL gossip and wife swapping you clueless git.

[ism22]

I think his problem is that he was the supercoach of the last decade. His style was quality over the past decade, but everybody has studied his gameplan, and they know how to counter old fashioned tactics. I think coaches and players have their era... knowing when to retire is a big thing. If Stuart had just done a few seasons then become a sports ranter (like Gus) then he never would have passed his era and gotten a bad reputation.

Oh and before the trolls slam me with abuse rather than facts... shut up MFers, you are boring.

[Billy Gunn]

I must be one of the only people who doesn't give a shit what he does

[Johnny Tobin]

SMH suggest he may be off to the Melbourne Rebels as McQueen's coordinator. If that eventuates, expect him to raid the NRL.

He can take Toops.

[Guest]

I must be one of the only people who doesn't give a shit what he does

Add me to that list

[Guest]

I reckon if you discount Wayne Bennett (he is in another class to any coach in the NRL), then there are building coaches and closing coaches. The builders put the team together and get them thereabouts (eg Graham Murray) and the closers wind them up another notch to win a comp. Stuart is a closing coach. He could win a comp with the Tigers IMO.

Put a closing coach in a building team and he destroys the team from the inside out (Roosters post 2005 and Sharks post 2008 for Ricky).

Of course, Ricky is also a petulant dickhead so he doesn't win may admirers.

[theGman]

**** its funny reading the comments of people who know absolutely nothing about what the truth might be.

The sharks are a club that has been filled with broken promises.

Unfortunately for Ricky, he has to take some blame there.
Primarily with sponsorship.
He wooed the gullible fools.
Fools that are still on the board for NSW rugby league.

I just find it so amusing as to the intelligence and work experience one needs to make a rugby league board.
Write that one up Becky and Phil.

I agree mate.

The make up of the NSWRL & CRL boards are still a boys brigade & very unprofessional and under-qualified for e.g Barry Pierce. How he became Chairman of the Sharks is still laughable. IMO the Sharks wouldn't be in this sad state if their current set up was in place about 10 yrs ago (post Super League involvement).
Historically, most Football club boards were the same up until about 10 yrs ago. Look at the Souffs Board under Piggins for example. They were made up of painters, butchers etc...
Peter Moore was a newsagent before he got involved with the Bulldogs club. At one point in time if you weren't Catholic you wouldn't get a look in as a Dogs player or official.

Bring on the Independent Commission!

[Guest]

According to this morning's Herald 5 Sharks players have get out clauses if Ricky is not the coach including Tupou.

[Headless Chook]

According to this morning's Herald 5 Sharks players have get out clauses if Ricky is not the coach including Tupou.

Why would Tupou want out......he's not a snowflakes chance in hell of finding another club as stupid as the Sharks to pay him what he's currently getting.

[Vasco]

Why would Tupou want out......he's not a snowflakes chance in hell of finding another club as stupid as the Sharks to pay him what he's currently getting.

What about the Roosters?