Inglis, Cooper and the new Salary Cap Rules

[The Pelican]

What???...

My bad, if a player get offered a contract from a number of clubs and is also offered a third party deal by a company, that has the exact same terms no matter what club you choose to go to, it is unlimited, compared to a third party deal that is only offered to you at a certain club, which has to be in the $300,000 limit(which is for the whole team).
So basically if the deal is the same no matter what club you choose to go to, it is unlimited.
I hope this clears it up for you, i found it a bit hard to explain straight away LOL

[stsae]

But at the same time, the NRL has loosened its salary cap rules so that players can earn guaranteed third-party payments of up to $300,000 and an unlimited amount from non-club sponsors. Further changes enable clubs to offer cars and players to take advantage of tax breaks for the use of their intellectual property rights.

AM I reading this right? so a player can get unlimted funds that do not count under the cap as long as the funds are found from non club sponsors?

From what I know these still have to have the approval of Schuey??? Well at least that was the rule, they change weekly it would seem.

Strange how we change rules for Waynekerrs Stains and The NewsRL Wankos of course.

Many sides and players have been restricted by these rules for some for 10+yrs now. Now its sweet when some clubs need rules changed. All of a sudden NewsRL can find some sense.

I love how Lockheads listed as a 250K player. 20 Wankos are on 3rd party deals we now know of. Its so bad its funny.

And to think Terry Old Kockbreff and Tard-o-mite wanted us to believe Bwaiff was our marquee player. If Lockheads on 250K Bwaiff must be under 100K on our cap.

What a farked up game NewsRL have created.

[Guest]

It's a well known fact that the Broncos have a group of businessman called The Thoroughbreds who provide financial assistance (non club sponsors)by "topping up" players contracts to keep them at the club - bona fide by the salary cap auditors. After reading the above SMH it would seem Parramatta have similar financial backing....good luck to them.

Well it got me wondering about us. It's always reported we have/had a board comprising astute and successful businessman but if the crunch comes, i wonder if we have corporate backing to attract/keep players.

I'm not an advocate for paying ridiculous $$ but if for example a situation arose whereby Souffs and us were vying for the services of James Graham i'd be anticipating Uncle Nick or Bouris to enlist the financial assistance of their corporate buddies.



Does anyone know if we indeed have third party non sponsors involved with the club??
p.s If so, no need to name them. I wouldn't want to give any ammunition to Rothfuk or Spread'em Bekkie .

lets not forget Inglis's punching bag has just been given a 200k + marketing position

[Pass the Ball]

We have been doing the same forever..

They have now increased the potential earnings for players, so what's the problem...???

Some must just whinge for the sake of whinging...

[rooster69]

Makes me think why we would want any corporate sponsors beyond , the playing jersey.....If they cant top a players wage as a sponsor-
just tell them to be "friendly" with there dosh towards the club.

[Headless Chook]

My bad, if a player get offered a contract from a number of clubs and is also offered a third party deal by a company, that has the exact same terms no matter what club you choose to go to, it is unlimited, compared to a third party deal that is only offered to you at a certain club, which has to be in the $300,000 limit(which is for the whole team).
So basically if the deal is the same no matter what club you choose to go to, it is unlimited.
I hope this clears it up for you, i found it a bit hard to explain straight away LOL

Are you sure about that? I'm pretty sure all those businessmen up in Brisbane aren't giving Locky a truckload cause they think he's a good bloke!

[The Pelican]

Are you sure about that? I'm pretty sure all those businessmen up in Brisbane aren't giving Locky a truckload cause they think he's a good bloke!

I'm saying that if for e.g. Lockyer is offered a third party deal by a business to promote it or whatever and it has the same terms whether he stays at Brisbane or went to another club for whatever reason, the amount he can make off it is unlimited.

[Headless Chook]

I'm saying that if for e.g. Lockyer is offered a third party deal by a business to promote it or whatever and it has the same terms whether he stays at Brisbane or went to another club for whatever reason, the amount he can make off it is unlimited.

Bruno Cullen said the reason why they were able to sign Inglis was due to the increase to $300k of the guaranteed 3rd Party sponsorships. He then went on to say the reason why Lockyer was only listed on the cap as $250k was because he had a number of outside deals which didn't have to be included in the cap. Now I'm obviously not privy to Lockyer's contract but I'd bet my life on those deals not being available if he left the Broncos. When quizzed further, Cullen went on to say they have about 20 different supporters who help out in this way. I took that to mean that these deals were exclusive to Broncos players and dependent on the player remaining with the Broncos.

[Pass the Ball]

I'm saying that if for e.g. Lockyer is offered a third party deal by a business to promote it or whatever and it has the same terms whether he stays at Brisbane or went to another club for whatever reason, the amount he can make off it is unlimited.

I do not believe this for a second..

The thougherbreds would not pay Lockyer to play for us..They pay him to stay at Brisbane...

[stsae]

We have been doing the same forever..

They have now increased the potential earnings for players, so what's the problem...???

Some must just whinge for the sake of whinging...

No el-problemo whatsoever mate with companies outside the game tipping $$$$ into the game.

But us and many other sides have been decimated over the past NewsRL years because of the dreaded cap rules. And weve been told sooooooo many times thru the media we need the cap and its rules to keep the comp even.

So what happens the two teams owned by NewsRL win the majority of the comps since their owner takes over the game. Then we are told one is over the cap, sooooo the other buys their best player at a discounted rate of course. Oh and after the cap rules are changed.

I recall Freddo copping us a fine cos one of his 3rd party deals was deemed illegal. Im sure we couldve or at least wouldve liked to offer Fitzy some similar deal to stay on. Every other club could recount such problems.

20 of their 25 players on 3rd party deals. 20 PTB. Thats farking a bit much. And Lockhead listed at 250K officially. Pluheesee.

Sick man sick.

[Guest]

My bad, if a player get offered a contract from a number of clubs and is also offered a third party deal by a company, that has the exact same terms no matter what club you choose to go to, it is unlimited, compared to a third party deal that is only offered to you at a certain club, which has to be in the $300,000 limit(which is for the whole team).
So basically if the deal is the same no matter what club you choose to go to, it is unlimited.
I hope this clears it up for you, i found it a bit hard to explain straight away LOL

Nah that isn't right. My understanding is that club can not guarantee a player a specific amount of money when negotiating a contract with a non club sponsor. But these non club sponsors would still be sounded out by the club.

As said above I don't think the money the Thoroughbreds are giving to Brisbane players would be available if they wanted to play for Cronulla.

It is a grey area but it doesn't worry me, if sponsors want to put money into the game it is a good thing. My only problem is that Brisbane have an obvious advantage being the only team in a big city, there should be another 2 clubs up there.

So for the other clubs that are struggling I would say raise your game or relocate.

[Pass the Ball]

We, as fans wanted an increase in the cap..

We, as fans wanted more earnings potential for the best players to stay in the NRL..

We, as fans wanted concessions made for long-serving players...

The NRL has granted our 3 wishes...

[Guest]

No el-problemo whatsoever mate with companies outside the game tipping $$$$ into the game.

But us and many other sides have been decimated over the past NewsRL years because of the dreaded cap rules. And weve been told sooooooo many times thru the media we need the cap and its rules to keep the comp even.

So what happens the two teams owned by NewsRL win the majority of the comps since their owner takes over the game. Then we are told one is over the cap, sooooo the other buys their best player at a discounted rate of course. Oh and after the cap rules are changed.

I recall Freddo copping us a fine cos one of his 3rd party deals was deemed illegal. Im sure we couldve or at least wouldve liked to offer Fitzy some similar deal to stay on. Every other club could recount such problems.

20 of their 25 players on 3rd party deals. 20 PTB. Thats farking a bit much. And Lockhead listed at 250K officially. Pluheesee.

Sick man sick.

Agree

I thought that third party deals arranged through the club were illegal. How is that different to what Bruno Cullen said - "we give the players a list of people and say, if you're prepared to do promotional work, they'll be happy to assist"?

So a club will say to businesses - hold that $500K you want to give, arrange a corporate box through the stadium for your games (not through the club because we don't want your sponsorship or association), and give that $500K to players we tell to approach you????? Within the rules of the cap, that seems suss

[Pass the Ball]

Nah that isn't right. My understanding is that club can not guarantee a player a specific amount of money when negotiating a contract with a non club sponsor. But these non club sponsors would still be sounded out by the club.

As said above I don't think the money the Thoroughbreds are giving to Brisbane players would be available if they wanted to play for Cronulla.

It is a grey area but it doesn't worry me, if sponsors want to put money into the game it is a good thing. My only problem is that Brisbane have an obvious advantage being the only team in a big city, there should be another 2 clubs up there.

So for the other clubs that are struggling I would say raise your game or relocate.

Easts are in as good, if not better corporate position than any other club in the NRL....IMO

[Headless Chook]

Maybe Uncle Nick should withdraw his sponsorship and step aside. Jamie Packer could do the same. We could blow most other clubs out of the water then!!!