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    We keep persisting with the McIntyre finals system. Noone wants it so why does Gallop and co keep it?

    Look at the game the Gayfl had last week in the first week of the finals and teh rest will be the same. Whereas we will have games that mean nothing.

    We keep going on about how it is good to get in the top 4 but really is it? Other than a home final I guess. If we have a top 8 then if you make the top 4 you should be playing to get in the GF qualifier. Would give heaps more incentive to make the top 4

  • #2
    When you say "Noone wants it" you actually mean "I don't want it"

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Dolphin View Post
      We keep persisting with the McIntyre finals system. Noone wants it so why does Gallop and co keep it?

      Look at the game the Gayfl had last week in the first week of the finals and teh rest will be the same. Whereas we will have games that mean nothing.

      We keep going on about how it is good to get in the top 4 but really is it? Other than a home final I guess. If we have a top 8 then if you make the top 4 you should be playing to get in the GF qualifier. Would give heaps more incentive to make the top 4
      Don't you mean the game the AFL had last night in the first week of the finals?[not last week]
      I do like the AFL set up for the finals instead of the McIntyre system though,it is a fairer system.

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      • #4
        I think it's fair. The team that had a better year should get rewarded by playing the weaker team out of the 8, 2 v 7th and so on. As for the gAyFL, who cares what they do. That sport is only big in 1 country and it's only for Mexicans to claim as theirs. the McIntyre system suits me.

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        • #5
          Good post Dolphin.

          The AFL system fairly rewards your ladder position, unlike the NRL system.

          1-2 get two home finals, including a chance at the piggy back to a prelim final.
          3-4 get one home finals, including a chance at the piggy back to a prelim final.
          5-6 get one home final, but play sudden death first week.
          7-8 get no home finals, and play sudden death first week.

          Importantly, the AFL system produces more competitive games by having 1 vs. 4, 2 vs. 3, 5 vs. 8, 6 vs. 7 in the first week; as opposed to some of the weak match-ups that happen under the NRL system (perhaps not this year considering how tight the comp is). There is also more certainty as to your opponents moving forward, as opposed to the NRL system that relies on every single other result.
          FONK

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          • #6
            Originally posted by ROC181 View Post
            I think it's fair. The team that had a better year should get rewarded by playing the weaker team out of the 8, 2 v 7th and so on. As for the gAyFL, who cares what they do. That sport is only big in 1 country and it's only for Mexicans to claim as theirs. the McIntyre system suits me.
            Its not fair that teams who finish 3rd and 4th can possibly be knocked out in the first week.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by adamkungl View Post
              When you say "Noone wants it" you actually mean "I don't want it"
              I don't like it either.

              My major issue with the current McIntyre system is the bit about waiting around for results to find out if you are eliminated.

              I think you should know going into a semi if a loss puts you out or not. You should know if your semi is a sudden death game or not, and you should know as you walk off the field if your season is over or not.
              I know teams 1,2 7 and 8 know beforehand what a loss means, but the others are left in limbo for 24 hrs. For this reason alone I prefer the GayFL system.
              ...also I think its unfair in a top8 that a team finishing 3rd could potentially be eliminated in week 1.

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              • #8
                The McIntyre system is horrible.....3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th might as well not play in the first week of the finals if 1 and 2 win - and ofcourse on the other hand if 1 and/or 2 do lose they get arse****ed with an away sudden death final in week 2.

                I have no idea why we use this moronic system.

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                • #9
                  The AFL system is much better as there is no ambiguity as to which games are sudden death. Nothing shits me more than watching 4th vs 5th or 3rd vs 6th in the NRL and not knowing the value of the game until 1 or 2 days later

                  ... the one exception was when Saints got eliminated by Penrith in the 4th vs 5th playoff. It was such a joy see the torment and uncertainty in the faces of the Saints supporters.

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                  • #10
                    The AFL system is by far more superior to NRL. Finish top four and you've got every chance of getting into the grand final becasue if you win in W1 your straight through the the preliminary finals. Bottom four, well you have to win every game but you deserve to do it tough.

                    By the NRL's method, 3 vs 6 and 5 vs 4 are always under threat in the first week which is incredibly unfair. Your fate is completely determined by other teams.

                    I love the AFL finals system. I know exactly who the Swans can play in every week pending the results of W1. I know who they'll have to face in order to reach the GF and I'm happy for that clarity as a fan.

                    The McIntyre system does the game an incredible disservice. A blight as far as I'm concerned.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Cindy14 View Post
                      The AFL system is by far more superior to NRL. Finish top four and you've got every chance of getting into the grand final becasue if you win in W1 your straight through the the preliminary finals. Bottom four, well you have to win every game but you deserve to do it tough.

                      By the NRL's method, 3 vs 6 and 5 vs 4 are always under threat in the first week which is incredibly unfair. Your fate is completely determined by other teams.

                      I love the AFL finals system. I know exactly who the Swans can play in every week pending the results of W1. I know who they'll have to face in order to reach the GF and I'm happy for that clarity as a fan.

                      The McIntyre system does the game an incredible disservice. A blight as far as I'm concerned.
                      Well said Cindy14 and I particularly agree with your last paragraph.
                      "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."

                      Thomas Jefferson

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                      • #12
                        I saw an interview with Gallop the other day and he said they were going to continue with the McIntyre system to keep the whingers in business at this time of the year...

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                        • #13
                          There is no reason the NRL can't change 'back' to the current AFL system. I'm sure before the end of season 1999 the NRL finals were how the AFL is now and vice versa. I personally much prefer the current AFL system.
                          "Do you expect me to talk"? "No, Mr. Bond, I expect you to die".

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Hawkeye View Post
                            I don't like it either.

                            My major issue with the current McIntyre system is the bit about waiting around for results to find out if you are eliminated.
                            Fair enough. But "no one wants it" is rubbish, I have no problem with it.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by 007 View Post
                              There is no reason the NRL can't change 'back' to the current AFL system. I'm sure before the end of season 1999 the NRL finals were how the AFL is now and vice versa. I personally much prefer the current AFL system.
                              The ARL used the current AFL system in 1995 and 1996. 1995 was the first year the ARL had an eight-team finals series. Super League had a five-team series and the ARL had a seven-team series in 1997. The NRL had a 10-team series in 1998. The NRL has used the McIntyre system ever since 1999.

                              The AFL used the current NRL system between 1994 and 1999. 1994 was the first year the AFL had an eight-team finals series. They changed to the current system in 2000.
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