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Originally posted by chefman21 View PostInnocent till proven guilty. Aren't we called the Rorters by other fans anyway? And what does a biased, unfounded opinion have to do with a commission who by nature is meant to be totally independent. I want the best people on the commission. Not the people who will tow the party line. Cullen and Bennett have formed probably the strongest brand in football in the Broncos. Their skills are extraordinary.
and my opinion isnt biased or unfounded. maybe the evidence has been a little better covered up but google the thoroughbreds and tell me its unfounded. as for biased, i'd suggest the only person bias in this conversation is you.
and i too want the best people in the job but of course i want them to tow the company line-isnt the the whole basis of the commission so we can have consistancy and one set of rules and not people who are known to bend the rules to suit their own agendas. we certainly need input from football identities but to suggest people such as cullen webcke and even bennett who are so clearly bias towards the broncos is hardly independant.
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Originally posted by my_dogs_named_fitzy View Postevery club rorts the cap and some get caught some don't. theres a time when people wouldve said bellamy and waldron formed a strong brand in football at the storm. success is a funny thing that way.
and my opinion isnt biased or unfounded. maybe the evidence has been a little better covered up but google the thoroughbreds and tell me its unfounded. as for biased, i'd suggest the only person bias in this conversation is you.
and i too want the best people in the job but of course i want them to tow the company line-isnt the the whole basis of the commission so we can have consistancy and one set of rules and not people who are known to bend the rules to suit their own agendas. we certainly need input from football identities but to suggest people such as cullen webcke and even bennett who are so clearly bias towards the broncos is hardly independant.
And it's unfounded until they get found guilty. Imagine gaol's if you were in charge of the justice system... You are not Judge Dredd. If you think you can do better then put some names forward... That goes for everyone else too. I had the guts to put names out there. If you don't play the game you don't make the rules.
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Originally posted by redwhiteandbluester View PostIt's about time.
The less power News has in the game, as evidenced by the Melbourne debacle, the better.
If this is true, nothing will come of it. Just News/Nrl having a love-in, hearing opinions of how to better the game, and doing NOTHING.
And they have to keep that other dropkick Geoff Carr, (former Dragons CEO, and current ARL CEO & NSW CEO ) away.
NO Gallop, NO Carr.
Unfortunately, I see nothing good coming out of this. Call me cynical, but as long as News controls the game, NOTHING WILL CHANGE.
Crikey
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Originally posted by chefman21 View PostWhat am I biased towards? I've picked people who are extremely successful in what they do. I've picked people who have outstanding skills as administrators, business people or people who have an exceedingly good knowledge of the game. I'm biased towards quality. Bronco-centric? I thought everything went to a vote. The other people on the commission won't vote for something that clearly benefits one club over the whole. Why would you want someone to tow the company line? Shouldn't there be free minds and free thinkers who put forward options not a party line. It's the only way this commission will work.
And it's unfounded until they get found guilty. Imagine gaol's if you were in charge of the justice system... You are not Judge Dredd. If you think you can do better then put some names forward... That goes for everyone else too. I had the guts to put names out there. If you don't play the game you don't make the rules.
and how can you possibly judge their quality knowing full well that their is and always will be a cloud hanging over their success-do you think it was coincidence cullen left when he did.... do you think its a coincidence the broncos no longer field an entire origin team without the thoroughbreds and bennett...and i never said anything about bronco-centric but yes that certainly seems to be where your heart lies... the need for independant people to toe a mutually agreed upon set of ideals from day one is exactly what we need, free thinkers and free minds get bought out, especially by people with agendas like the news ltd pond scum.
as for better names i dunno, id rather see business and administrators from outside rugby league. searle probably deserves a spot given his push and of course i think a good balance of nsw and qld RL as well as city and country reps are important. i'd like to see players in the mould of sterlo-someone with real football credibility rather than webcke but possibly even someone from the rlpa.
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I believe that the QRL is insisting that anyone who has had a position in a club in the last three years can't be considered. So that's Nick and Bouris out.
The idiot grey man aka David Gallop will unfortunately be the first CEO.
We all want it but I don't expect much to change on the field.
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Originally posted by my_dogs_named_fitzy View Postwell think how many criminals are running around the world because they are covering their tracks-doesnt make them innocent and certainly i am not someone who is going to bury my head in the sand about it.
Originally posted by my_dogs_named_fitzy View Postand how can you possibly judge their quality knowing full well that their is and always will be a cloud hanging over their success-do you think it was coincidence cullen left when he did.... do you think its a coincidence the broncos no longer field an entire origin team without the thoroughbreds and bennett...
Originally posted by my_dogs_named_fitzy View Postand i never said anything about bronco-centric but yes that certainly seems to be where your heart lies...
Originally posted by my_dogs_named_fitzy View Postthe need for independant people to toe a mutually agreed upon set of ideals from day one is exactly what we need, free thinkers and free minds get bought out, especially by people with agendas like the news ltd pond scum.
Originally posted by my_dogs_named_fitzy View Postas for better names i dunno, id rather see business and administrators from outside rugby league. searle probably deserves a spot given his push and of course i think a good balance of nsw and qld RL as well as city and country reps are important. i'd like to see players in the mould of sterlo-someone with real football credibility rather than webcke but possibly even someone from the rlpa.
Sterlo - you don't like News Limited but you want someone employed by PBL? It's just the same. I have no doubt he is credible and has league's best interests at heart, but being employed by a media company and being on the board is a conflict of interest. He has to quit PBL to be on the board.
I agree with people outside of league. That's why I mentioned John Howard. I'd like several people from outside of league as a matter of fact. I'd even be happy with a 50/50 split. That way it would be truly independent. Quality people are all that matter. Some other names I'd be happy to see from outside league:
John Coates
Malcolm Speed
Allan Fels
Frank Lowy
Gerry Harvey
Gail Kelly
Chip Goodyear
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[QUOTE=Jan;90087]Originally posted by chefman21 View PostWe can't have all Easts fans. Although it would be nice.
It would be a change to have someone on our side then we might just
stand a chance, because we sure as hell don't now.
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How can it be independant if Gallop heads it?
The guy is the worst head of any sport in the country in the last 20 years. If he heads it up then they may as well get Molly Meldrum as his deputy.
Give Demetriou whatever he wants and get him to head the independant commission.
I like the idea of John Quayle, Ken Arthurson and Ron Coote being invloved.
Others that come to mind:
Alan Jones
Great Aussie sportsmen that love the game. Maybe Ian Thorpe
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