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    Independent commission must tackle big problems November 28, 2010


    Stormy off-season ... Greg Inglis has attracted plenty of interest from the NRL's salary cap auditors after joining South Sydney in controversial circumstances from Melbourne, via Brisbane. Photo: Getty Images

    With the independent commission looming, Adrian Proszenko urges the game's incoming powerbrokers to be bold.

    1 RAISE THE CAP
    It is time for the salary cap to go up. Significantly. Hailed as the great leveller of talent, the cap has also held the game back. Putting a ceiling on the amount the stars can earn has forced some of them out of the game. While some have returned, many others have not. League is poorer for the absence of Sonny Bill Williams's shoulder charge, Craig Gower's tenacity and Craig Wing's pink pants.

    The argument that the cap protects clubs from themselves is insulting. The strong should not be held back by the weak. ''Rather than looking at the constraints we put on the sport, we should be looking at ways to expand it,'' Penrith coach Matthew Elliott told The Sun-Herald earlier this year. ''It befuddles me that each club has CEOs and CFOs appointed, yet part of the charter of salary cap is to protect clubs from themselves. If that's the case, we need to get rid of all the CEOs. What are they there for? That argument needs to be removed as a premise of what the cap is there for.''

    Advertisement: Story continues below The streamlining of the game's governing bodies will bring efficiencies and some of those savings should be passed on to clubs. A new TV deal, purportedly worth $1 million, is also looming. There is no excuse for the grants from the independent commission to clubs to not match the cap. The minimum wage for a first-grade footballer must be raised to $75,000.

    2 MAKE A STATEMENT IN WESTERN SYDNEY
    Western Sydney is league land. The IC must keep it that way. A strong message must be sent to fans - and the AFL - that demonstrates that the lifeblood of the game will not be taken for granted. The IC can start with a festival of football in western Sydney. This should comprise a double-header at ANZ Stadium. The venue would soon be sold out following the announcement that Parramatta will open the season with a clash against arch rivals Canterbury. Penrith will then take on Wests Tigers on a day that celebrates the fans. Andrew Demetriou must be sent a message that he started a war that can never be won.

    3 OVERHAUL SCHEDULING
    The first matter of business should be to lock in the regular-season schedule at the start of the season. This will follow the lead of the AFL and give fans certainty, allowing them to plan their visits to the football well in advance. The IC - and not the broadcasters - must be responsible for scheduling.

    The representative season requires an overhaul. The order should be City-Country, followed by Origin and then internationals. If City-Country isn't treated like a genuine selection trial for NSW jumpers, it should be scrapped altogether. Origin matches should stand alone. The TV rights to these events should be sold separately.

    The IC should also form a committee to examine the merits of a switch to a conference system. Teams could be split into zones (western conference, Queensland conference, etc), ensuring that local derbies are played home and away. The committee should also investigate the relevance of the Anzac Test in its current form.

    4 OVERHAUL SECOND-TIER COMPETITIONS
    The National Youth Competition has its merits but the age should be raised from 20 to 23. The NSW Cup should be modelled along the lines of the Queensland Cup - with the winner of each competition facing off on grand final day. Too many players are lost to the game due to the absence of a proper second-tier competition. This must be remedied immediately.

    5 EXPANSION BACK ON THE TABLE
    Two additional teams must be granted licences into the league. The Central Coast Bears should be one of them. This will provide further bargaining power before the new broadcast deal is negotiated. A committee must be set up to inspect and grant the bids.

    6 INTEGRITY UNIT
    The IC must create an integrity unit, which will investigate issues including problem gambling, serious breaches of player behaviour etc. When players transgress, punishments should be taken out of the hands of the club and dealt with by the IC. This will ensure uniform punishments and will prevent the clubs acting in their self interest.

    7 REFEREE ACCOUNTABILITY
    Referees, or their bosses, must front up and explain their decisions. Bill Harrigan and Stuart Raper should be required to explain controversial decisions to the media at the conclusion of every NRL round. They should put their hands up when a mistake has been made.

    8 RULES COMMITTEE
    A rules committee must be formed to review the season and make alterations as required. This responsibility should be taken out of the hands of club coaches, who have previously made modifications which are solely in their interests rather than that of the game. Stripping, torso tries and the downtown rule should be debated by past players and coaches.

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    I agree with a few of the points, but strongly disagree with a couple of them.

    RAISE the CAP - what an absolute load of bollocks. $s are destroying the game that was set up to look after the working class sportsman.
    e.g. if they want to stamp and claim to any part of anywhere, money should be taken out of the NRL and put back into the grass roots. I DO NOT WANT the PRICES of supporting RL to increase any more.
    Either abolish it or reduce it. Thats the way to save the game, remember its about game not the players.

    EXPANSION- expand no where except many Ipswich and the Central Coast.

    I really agree with Referee accountability.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Kingbilly View Post
      I agree with a few of the points, but strongly disagree with a couple of them.

      RAISE the CAP - what an absolute load of bollocks. $s are destroying the game that was set up to look after the working class sportsman.
      e.g. if they want to stamp and claim to any part of anywhere, money should be taken out of the NRL and put back into the grass roots. I DO NOT WANT the PRICES of supporting RL to increase any more.
      Either abolish it or reduce it. Thats the way to save the game, remember its about game not the players.

      EXPANSION- expand no where except many Ipswich and the Central Coast.

      I really agree with Referee accountability.
      Keeping the cap will damage the game.. Young kids have the option of playing AFL (with a bigger cap), soccer (with no cap overseas) and plenty of other sports like golf and tennis. The elite sports people will steer away from league to an extent and look at the sports that can pay them more. Look at cricket in the West Indies.. It use to be a religion there but kids these days care more for NBA and Soccer as that is the pathway to big dollars.. Cricket is struggling there now.

      Where the dollars are lost in the game is in the Television rights.. The last league deal received $350M + less than AFL yet an analysis by independant media analysts showed the NRL generated approximately the same advertising revenue as the AFL.. The games administrators have been holding the game back.. Let's see if the CEO's agree to salary caps on CEO's..
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      • #4
        The point is you can't keep paying players over what the market can afford.

        I am of a different opinion regarding TV rights, if they pay 300,400, 500 or what ever million dollars, who pays for that. We do !!!
        I don't want foxtel to increase any more, I don't want more ads on Ch9.

        Someone should do some proper "real" market analysis to determine what the "real" market value of RL is and that should determine any salaries. Thats how it works in the real world.

        I could not care less if we lose an "elite athelete" to another sport because of $s.
        I would like the players to earn what they can, but play the game because they want to.
        IF we continue along the lines we are I do believe the game will be in a huge amount of trouble in 5-10 years, regardless of any independant commission
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        • #5
          KB, could the increase in profit to the clubs via the independant commission allow for the Increase in player pay and the decrease in ticketing and merchandise?

          Delecto Oriens est odio Meridianus
          To love Easts is to hate Souffs

          Originally posted by Bill Shankley, Liverpool FC
          At a football club, there’s a holy trinity – the players, the manager and the supporters. Directors don’t come into it. They are only there to sign the cheques.
          Originally posted by Andy Raymond Commentating Souffs V Manly 18/04/09
          The fireworks at the Easter show are making more noise than the crowd tonight

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          • #6
            If profits increase without the cost to the consumer then increase salaries as much as you can, as long as a decent percentage (meaning much more than now) is allocated to the development of the game especially in the country.

            I am yet to see much proving that the profits will increase though. Except if News is synphoning money away that will not be "taken" any more under an IC, but can think that NEWs will let that happen?
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            • #7
              I think it will be tough if they expand while also increasing salaries.
              The NRL has the best product and I think anecdotally more fans in a more concentrated area. Only QLD and NSW play League... (Melbourne is a very artificial team IMO, they pumped it up by letting it cheat, then kicked it in the balls once it had established a fanbase + a status higher than $hitkickers.)

              I don't have the key but I think getting the balance right is tough:
              - Increase the cap and smaller teams will fold.
              - Expand while increasing salaries and the smaller teams will fold even quicker.
              - Simply expand and the quality of footy will be worse because while the stars will get more money as marquee players (i.e. less stars in each team as they are spread out, so more affordable), but having less talented teams means worse quality footy.
              - Do nothing and we can guarantee nothing will change for the better...

              Maybe the NRL should simply expand and spread out the talent with the hope more comes along? I think 500k (or more?) is about right for our top players granted the number of fans/population of Australia. The guys who complain and go overseas/different codes will never be happy no matter how much they are paid. As Willie Wanka found... if you want to make millions in the NFL then good luck... a country of 200 million with the world's largest economy can pay more for a reason.

              Other codes/comps can ALWAYS bid higher than us if they want a player. I promise they will not stop... it's a bit like trying to beat Bill Gates at an auction... he can just keep offering more.

              England... population of 51 million (+ the rest of the UK) with a much larger economy than Australia. They can pay more.

              ARU has given up on expensive league players for the minute... guys like Saffy, Cross and Du Plessis chose Union over League... throwing more money at them just takes money away from our juniors and has no guarantee of retaining players IMO.

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              Maybe we should increase the cap, but also GREATLY increase the minimum wage in order to share the wealth, and attract more young/inexperienced potential stars?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by ism22 View Post
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                if you want to make millions in the NFL then good luck... a country of 200 million with the world's largest economy can pay more for a reason.

                Other codes/comps can ALWAYS bid higher than us if they want a player. I promise they will not stop... it's a bit like trying to beat Bill Gates at an auction... he can just keep offering more.

                England... population of 51 million (+ the rest of the UK) with a much larger economy than Australia. They can pay more.
                Ah someone sees part of the truth.
                But did you know if we compare the NFL and the NRL the average salary in the NRL should be around 60K ?

                I think exapansion is foolish (apart from trusted RL areas). If they want to increase the market they need to promote the existing product in areas of $s such as the US and Japan.

                Mind you given the qualitiy of refereeing etc the game is not in good enough state to take overseas. Hopefully the IC will spend time fixing all that is wrong with the game before going off onto wild goose chases.
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                • #9
                  The IC should lobby and lobby hard the abolition of the pokie tax, theu need to get into the Liberals back pocket now, becasue the state election wil be a massacre, by promising the football and leagues clubs greater revenue will secure even more votes in their favour, its a win win, all except souffs off course, no pokies at Redfern

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                  • #10
                    There must always be a salary cap as the game could simply not afford to pay some of these prima donna players what their ego's think they are worth.

                    The biggest issue the IC will face is relocations rather than expansion. We can ill afford a new club going belly up, and let's face it the Tit's are close to folding in their second year. The AFL's GWS and GC clubs are litmus tests for expansion using new clubs imo. If either one of them fold I doubt we'll see a new NRL club in the near future. But relocations are a different beast altogether and have a much greater chance of succeeding then the creation of a new team.

                    Chook.

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                    • #11
                      hahaha 3 great posts...
                      Chook has a good point regarding relocations. I'd start with South Sydney... to me anything souff of Redfern is "South Sydney." Cronulla is buckling, St Merge have taken over the Gong and Souffs have a good habit of finishing just outside the top 8 every season. 1 of those teams should move... I suggest Cronulla. Then Souffs can be for all people in South Sydney, Merge can be more the Gong + far south and Cronulla... I dunno? Maybe even a South Island NZ team aimed purely at poaching NZ rugby talent (rename the warriors back to Auckland...) The Sharks can be the Hobbits in order to stick with their shire mantra ;p

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                      • #12
                        THE NBA DOES THE SALARY CAP BETTER THAN ANYONE

                        Have exceptions that allow teams to exceed the cap.
                        -Veterans Minimum: A minimum $ amount that can be allocated to a a Veteran player to keep them in the NRL
                        -Minimum Contract: Again a $ amount teams can use to add depth
                        -An exception for a player that has been with a club for X years allowing them to exceed the cap to resign them

                        And to get some money back for the league, have a luxury tax. For example if the salary cap is 8 million and the luxury tax line is 9 million and a team exceeds the 9 million every $ over the team has to give that amount back to the league.

                        -Trading: Give teams the ability, like the AFL does, to trade players of similar contracts

                        -The NRL needs a draft. The sports salary cap was designed to go with a draft and it makes the league more competitive by giving the shit teams some young talent.
                        Last edited by Ben94; 11-30-2010, 08:28 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Ben94 View Post
                          -The NRL needs a draft. The sports salary cap was designed to go with a draft and it makes the league more competitive by giving the shit teams some young talent.
                          Blame the male version of Liz Smiley for why the NRL doesn't have a draft. That prick killed it off back in the early 90's.

                          Chook.

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                          • #14
                            I think the key is to have rep contracts that do not count towards the cap. That way the league can decide how much we are prepared to pay to keep our marquee players without inflating the whole market.

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                            • #15
                              Rep contracts is an interesting point, alot of other sports go that way.

                              But I have a problem with the focus on "marquee" players. Everyone loves a good player, but I think most people love their club more.
                              I think the media is far too much in love with notion that we have to pay the players what ever it takes to keep them in RL.
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