Tim Moltzen

[Roosterfarian]

dont they have the nyc half of the year in their rank in miller? Why wouldnt u start him? Give him back to us if they dont want him.

[Guest]

This is just another example of unethical player managers doing dodgy deals and expecting to get away with them.

Mind you the Dragons should have insisted on formal release papers from the Tigers back when Moltzen signed, and Moltzen shouldn't have signed anything until that was available.
As it stands, the only contract registered with the NRL for 2012 for Moltzen is with the Tigers. The Dragons cannot have their later contract with Moltzen registered with the NRL until there is proof available to the NRL that the Tigers have agreed to a release from that contract.

NC

Apparently this just doesn't happen. The way things are, players are given verbal permission to negotiate and then at the end of the season when clubs are registering their players for the next season, the official written release it given. Dragons have highlighted this by the fact that they have not given formal releases for Tagive or Boyd yet, but fully intend to, as that is the done thing. Verbal releases are given in good faith. This may not be an ideal situation and the practice needs to be looked at so this kind of thing doesn't happen again.

The Dragons have done nothing wrong in this case and I applaud them for taking a stance. I think even if they win the case they won't make Moltzen move as there's no point in havig a player that doesn't want to be there. They are making this stand as a point of principle.

The Tigpies have conducted themselves very poorly in this case. They realised that once they were going to be forced to sack Lui, they have no half back and asked Moltzen if he wanted to stay and then did not act in the good faith that verbal releases are given with.

Moltzen hasn't exactly come out of it smelling of roses either. If he has a poor season and Wests wan to dump him again, he could struggle to pick up another club.

In future clubs will be very wary in dealing with them.

[Guest]

The way I see it is St.George don't get what they want...which, in my opinion, is hilarious

[Guest]

Moltzen is to remain a Tiger, which probably means Carney will become a Dragon.

[Rooster_Luke]

I dont care what happens, he isnt that good anyway and Im sick of seeing it in the papers every day!!

[Guest]

titans storm had precisely the same situation 3 or 4 years ago with steve turner.

got very ugly and didnt really play out to anyones satisfaction

storm kicked up a fuss. bellamy said turner was like a son. a year later he goes to the bulldogs!

[Guest]

He should be made to stick to the contract he signed.

[novice chook]

He should be made to stick to the contract he signed.

Problem is he's signed 2 for 2012, his original Tigers one which included 2012 and the later Drag Queens one.

He can't honour both.

NC

[Guest]

As a way of looking at solving the problem NRL is looking at scheduling Tipie and Drags matches so he can fulfill both

They will also pick him for Origin and play Drags Tigs match in Origin time so he doesnt have a scheduling clash

its win/win/win

[Guest]

Legally he cant play for the dragons until the Tigers have signed papers releasing him from the final year of his contract...

It seems commonplace in the NRL but what will be crucial is if the Tigers had signed anything or there is evidence they said anything verbal to the Dragons that Moltzen will definately be released

Dragons have been unprofessional in this situation as well

the correct verion of events would be:
1. Tigers gives permission to player to look around - check
2. Player seeks offers, recieves them and decides on one - check
3. Tigers agree to let player go by signing relase - No
4. Dragons and player sign contract after relase is granted - Or to protect player pending release is granted - No

There are contractual agreements that can protect a player in between them gaining a release and signing a new contract

[Guest]

Eitherway Moltzen is a handy player and it will be better for the rest of the comp if he stays at a weakened Tigers outfit rather than bolster an already strong Dragons team...

dragons have K Stanley a very handy fullback/outside back

[Guest]

I dont rate the Tigers team next year with or without Moltzen. They have lost too many players to accomodate Adam Blair, and if they keep Moltzen they will let Lui go...

[Guest]

Drags will be a shadow of themselves next year

[Guest]

Drags will be a shadow of themselves next year

Can't wait.

Their fans have such a false sense of optimism. Dud squad which was ravaged by Bennet.

[Guest]

LOL another 30 years + wait for them...

Would love nothing more than an Anzac day win as well as getting the Vermin twice