Soward The Milkman

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Now we just need fred & we can start a new 300 page pearce v soward thread

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Now we just need fred & we can start a new 300 page pearce v soward thread

Fred was legless all this year, I doubt he'll ever be seen again.

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Fred was legless all this year, I doubt he'll ever be seen again.

Dunno 'bout that...he was like a dog with a bone..it was all good fun though..

You boys are definately OWNING us Pearce boys this year..

Gotta admit Soward would've scored the Pearce try on saturday night too..

Even you've gotta admit Pearce has a few more arrows to fire this year though..

And i know you & rusty hate the arguement,but...HE IS STILL 20..

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Dunno 'bout that...he was like a dog with a bone..it was all good fun though..

You boys are definately OWNING us Pearce boys this year..

Gotta admit Soward would've scored the Pearce try on saturday night too..

Even you've gotta admit Pearce has a few more arrows to fire this year though..

And i know you & rusty hate the arguement,but...HE IS STILL 20..

Contrary to common belief, I don't hate Pearce, nor do I think he's responsible for our position on the ladder. I just don't think he has the attacking nous to be the superstar he has been talked up to be. I think in the coming years he has the potential to be a good director of a side, but he needs someone creative alongside him. Pearce's role in a side should always to get the forwards in check and put in a long kick when needed, but he needs a five-eight alongside him that can create opportunities for the backline and put in deft short kicks. As I've said elsewhere, he's a Cooper Cronk type of player, not a Johnathon Thurston.

Yes he is only 20, but he's also got over 50 games under his belt, which is a fair amount of experience irrespective of age. No halves are ever going to shine with our pack of nuffies, but our inconsistent kicking games really aren't giving them a helping hand either.

Do I think we made an idiotic decision in letting go Soward? Yes of course, but at the same time with coaches like Sticky and Opes he was never going to excel here. I think we've over-extended ourselves in regards to how much money we've committed to Pearce, well before he proved his worth, only over the coming years will we find out whether or not I am wrong.

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Contrary to common belief, I don't hate Pearce, nor do I think he's responsible for our position on the ladder. I just don't think he has the attacking nous to be the superstar he has been talked up to be. I think in the coming years he has the potential to be a good director of a side, but he needs someone creative alongside him. Pearce's role in a side should always to get the forwards in check and put in a long kick when needed, but he needs a five-eight alongside him that can create opportunities for the backline and put in deft short kicks. As I've said elsewhere, he's a Cooper Cronk type of player, not a Johnathon Thurston.

Yes he is only 20, but he's also got over 50 games under his belt, which is a fair amount of experience irrespective of age. No halves are ever going to shine with our pack of nuffies, but our inconsistent kicking games really aren't giving them a helping hand either.

Do I think we made an idiotic decision in letting go Soward? Yes of course, but at the same time with coaches like Sticky and Opes he was never going to excel here. I think we've over-extended ourselves in regards to how much money we've committed to Pearce, well before he proved his worth, only over the coming years will we find out whether or not I am wrong.

Thurston is what 26 now?
He started reaching potential at 24 was average to occasional flash up until then was flicked by the Bulldogs as well -05 is when he made some waves and he has grown since.

Johns was 19 when he had a handful of games off the bench in 93 he was 20 when he made his first grade debut taking over Rodwell who got injured.He was 21 when he represented.

My only beef with Pearce is he has been pressurised way to young .Pearce was 17 on debut representing at 19 he is 20 now-get the picture.
With Anasta out it could be a good thing for him but unfortunately the team around him is not good enough to help him out.
Please dont compare to Soward he will be like Orford 30 and his game will be right.

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Thurston is what 26 now?
He started reaching potential at 24 was average to occasional flash up until then was flicked by the Bulldogs as well -05 is when he made some waves and he has grown since.

Johns was 19 when he had a handful of games off the bench in 93 he was 20 when he made his first grade debut taking over Rodwell who got injured.He was 21 when he represented.

My only beef with Pearce is he has been pressurised way to young .Pearce was 17 on debut representing at 19 he is 20 now-get the picture.
With Anasta out it could be a good thing for him but unfortunately the team around him is not good enough to help him out.
Please dont compare to Soward he will be like Orford 30 and his game will be right.

Irrespective of what years you say about Johns and Thurston, both of them were quite damaging at young ages as well, whether that be in the lower grades or first grade, albeit not consistently, but it was there. I get the picture, Pearce is young, and I'm not criticising him. But he has never had that flair that Thurston and Johns both had at a young age, it's not the type of player he is.

You can carry on about age all you want, it doesn't change a thing. He could run through to 30 and not develop that flair, it's something some players are born with and others aren't. It doesn't matter you need both types of players in your side to be successful in the NRL. A young player that has that flair, that is in a similar situation to what Pearce was in 2 years ago is Daniel Mortimer.

Funny that you mention Thurston only hitting his straps at 24. How old is Soward again?

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Irrespective of what years you say about Johns and Thurston, both of them were quite damaging at young ages as well, whether that be in the lower grades or first grade, albeit not consistently, but it was there. I get the picture, Pearce is young, and I'm not criticising him. But he has never had that flair that Thurston and Johns both had at a young age, it's not the type of player he is.

You can carry on about age all you want, it doesn't change a thing. He could run through to 30 and not develop that flair, it's something some players are born with and others aren't. It doesn't matter you need both types of players in your side to be successful in the NRL. A young player that has that flair, that is in a similar situation to what Pearce was in 2 years ago is Daniel Mortimer.

Funny that you mention Thurston only hitting his straps at 24. How old is Soward again?

I used to go watch pearce play when he was young in the U20's and he was all flair.His style now is not what it was some times you see flashes of it -Coaching has a lot to do with it if you bring on lets say a potential champion in a dud team with dud coaches -that flair will degenerate until the right connections come along.
The one thing that he has excelled in is defence and reading the play -thats Freddys style but I think he does too much anyway-Ive seen him put his body on the line far more than our forwards.
Fact is he shouldve played SOO this year and kept out of our team for a bit would have done him good.

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I used to go watch pearce play when he was young in the U20's and he was all flair.His style now is not what it was some times you see flashes of it -Coaching has a lot to do with it if you bring on lets say a potential champion in a dud team with dud coaches -that flair will degenerate until the right connections come along.
The one thing that he has excelled in is defence and reading the play -thats Freddys style but I think he does too much anyway-Ive seen him put his body on the line far more than our forwards.
Fact is he shouldve played SOO this year and kept out of our team for a bit would have done him good.

I watched Pearce in the U20's about 15-20 times, and his 4 odd games for newtown, I saw him dominate one game, the game he was dropped to newtown against the sharks, the round that Soward played his last game for us. He never won games out of his own hands, just steered the side around.

A halfbacks job is not defence, there have been two players in my memory that were workhorses in defence but their attack didn't suffer as a result, Johns and Toovey... But you could probably add Alfie (even tho he was a tripper). The rest just got involved in defence unnecessarily and their attack suffered, Pearce is no different.

All that being said, if you truly think Pearce's form this season has warranted a SOO berth, you truly are delusional. Mind you I don't think Campese or Wallace deserved it either. Kimmorely and Mullen should have been there... Or Soward for his kicking game, something we severely lacked in game 1, and before you ramble on about his defence he has one of the lowest missed tackle counts in the game, and one of the highest effective tackle rates in the NRL for halves