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  • #61
    Blues should pick and stick. The player will learn from that game.Changing now may make it worse.

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    • #62
      Teddy is not our problem.
      Our problem is the rest of the team.
      *Everyone* learning to play in their new positions.
      Players out of position.
      Players learning to play the game to first grade standard.
      Skill level of *much* of the team not of first grade standard...mistakes galore in games.

      Get Teddy a "too big, too strong, too fast" team to play behind, and watch him go.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by bondi paul View Post
        I felt sad for Tedesco tonite and thought he should retire.
        He has certainly been a better player than a captain. Seeing him in the dressing room at half time he looked dazed,confused and silent. Furthermore I have never thought that the Robbo/ Teddy combo has ever been a good one. The longer it exists i fear it won’t be good for the club or coach.
        My mail is quite the opposite.

        1. He ran more metres than anybody else on the ground and had 7 tackle busts. Pound for pound he schooled Walsh in terms of stats and Walsh is the form FB of the comp. Those last 2 tries s*cked but they weren't his fault. He got us into a winning position with 10 to go and we farked it by conceding stupid@rse penalties!!!

        2. Those who've been in the camp and dressing room all say that Teddy's a magical communicator and everybody goes silent to listen when he speaks. That's just how it is and that's why he's captaining Australia/NSW. Clueless at half-time? Fark aaaaawf! We got ourselves ahead and ALMOST won. The injury to Trbo was a turning point... not blaming Hynes but we had some bad luck late in the game. Yes Teddy fell over for one of the tries but it was a pretty much certain try anyway (which resulted from sloppy defence).

        I get the frustration about losing, but calling for him to retire is a complete joke. I was at a table last night with people saying 'imagine if Trell was FB!!!!' I get the thought process they're going through but don't think the outcome of that would be a good one.
        Last edited by ism22; 06-01-2023, 09:07 AM.

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        • #64
          Maybe Latrell at Fullback and give Teddy a rest.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by The distributor View Post
            Maybe Latrell at Fullback and give Teddy a rest.
            Maybe not.

            Edwards maybe yes.
            FVCK CANCER

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            • #66
              Lucky we granted him that lucrative contract extension.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Rooster1908 View Post
                He got married and she has taken all his goodness
                He’s just let himself go after marriage like the rest of us

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by ism22 View Post

                  My mail is quite the opposite.

                  1. He ran more metres than anybody else on the ground and had 7 tackle busts. Pound for pound he schooled Walsh in terms of stats and Walsh is the form FB of the comp. Those last 2 tries s*cked but they weren't his fault. He got us into a winning position with 10 to go and we farked it by conceding stupid@rse penalties!!!

                  2. Those who've been in the camp and dressing room all say that Teddy's a magical communicator and everybody goes silent to listen when he speaks. That's just how it is and that's why he's captaining Australia/NSW. Clueless at half-time? Fark aaaaawf! We got ourselves ahead and ALMOST won. The injury to Trbo was a turning point... not blaming Hynes but we had some bad luck late in the game. Yes Teddy fell over for one of the tries but it was a pretty much certain try anyway (which resulted from sloppy defence).

                  I get the frustration about losing, but calling for him to retire is a complete joke. I was at a table last night with people saying 'imagine if Trell was FB!!!!' I get the thought process they're going through but don't think the outcome of that would be a good one.
                  Get where you're coming from, but why are we quoting run metres? His run metres are a reflection of how many times he hogged the ball instead of organising his outside backs. They all got a cold around him

                  Stats don't tell you everything and watching the game you could see Walsh fitting in much better with his own team

                  And that last try was very much Teddy's fault. Whose other fault was it? Collins for outleaping him? You could say others didn't get back quickly enough but clutching at straws if you think his teammates were more to blame. Teddy practices for those moments.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by ism22 View Post

                    My mail is quite the opposite.

                    1. He ran more metres than anybody else on the ground and had 7 tackle busts. Pound for pound he schooled Walsh in terms of stats and Walsh is the form FB of the comp. Those last 2 tries s*cked but they weren't his fault. He got us into a winning position with 10 to go and we farked it by conceding stupid@rse penalties!!!

                    2. Those who've been in the camp and dressing room all say that Teddy's a magical communicator and everybody goes silent to listen when he speaks. That's just how it is and that's why he's captaining Australia/NSW. Clueless at half-time? Fark aaaaawf! We got ourselves ahead and ALMOST won. The injury to Trbo was a turning point... not blaming Hynes but we had some bad luck late in the game. Yes Teddy fell over for one of the tries but it was a pretty much certain try anyway (which resulted from sloppy defence).

                    I get the frustration about losing, but calling for him to retire is a complete joke. I was at a table last night with people saying 'imagine if Trell was FB!!!!' I get the thought process they're going through but don't think the outcome of that would be a good one.
                    I cannot understand how his two fantastic try saves in under 2 minutes has gone completely unnoticed as it was part of the video highlights. The rest of the team especially Cleary was hopeless with him just endlessly putting up the high bomb which every man and his dog were expecting. With the amount of possession ‘Penrith’ just couldn’t score enough to win. With 12 men QLD ala Collins beat them. But Tedesco played behind a weak backline incapable of doing much with Cleary at the helm.
                    “Soon will the present day order be rolled up, and a new one spread out in its stead”- (Baha’u’llah)

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                    • #70
                      Really, really surprised with some of the comments on here. This guy has essentially been the best player in the game since 2018. Some of the things he has done for the Roosters and NSW are un-matched. That isn't to say you should live on past glory, and he is relatively down on form this year, but he's only 30. He hasn't suddenly lost his ability to play.

                      That was his worst ever Origin, but it's also probably the only Origin he has ever played below an 8/10. I remember Daly Evans playing a stinker of an Origin a little while ago, but lo and behold he's still the QLD skipper. Same should be true for Teddy. You don't judge a player like that on one night.

                      As a sidenote, it's pretty incredible how less effective Cleary seems to be in Origin. Even when he gets time and space to kick, and just can't seem to put them where he wants them. He was pretty invisible last night.

                      Also feel bad for Hynes. It's a thankless job: being asked to come on with 10 minutes to go and win the game for your team. If that's what you're picking a utility for, don't bother. NSW always seem to do this. You need to have an actual plan for your 14 that isn't just "Throw them on at the death and hope they do something magical".

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                      • #71
                        Tedesco brought this seasons club form into Origin Besides half a game against St George ( where in the first half he was invisible ) he has been ineffective. Whilst not to say he cannot regain his old form the reality is at present he is a pale shadow of his former self

                        Now as for the fellow on here using on paper stats to say Teddy schooled Rhys Walsh You either did not watch the game or were full of craft beer and limoncello whilst watching in your man cave I would hazard a guess and say it was the latter. Walsh was continually outstanding under the high ball and slotted in seemlessly to the QLD attacking structure Sadly you could say neither of that about our Teddy
                        Last edited by Andrew Walker; 06-01-2023, 11:09 AM.
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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by BraveTheWorld View Post
                          Really, really surprised with some of the comments on here. This guy has essentially been the best player in the game since 2018. Some of the things he has done for the Roosters and NSW are un-matched. That isn't to say you should live on past glory, and he is relatively down on form this year, but he's only 30. He hasn't suddenly lost his ability to play.

                          That was his worst ever Origin, but it's also probably the only Origin he has ever played below an 8/10. I remember Daly Evans playing a stinker of an Origin a little while ago, but lo and behold he's still the QLD skipper. Same should be true for Teddy. You don't judge a player like that on one night.

                          As a sidenote, it's pretty incredible how less effective Cleary seems to be in Origin. Even when he gets time and space to kick, and just can't seem to put them where he wants them. He was pretty invisible last night.

                          Also feel bad for Hynes. It's a thankless job: being asked to come on with 10 minutes to go and win the game for your team. If that's what you're picking a utility for, don't bother. NSW always seem to do this. You need to have an actual plan for your 14 that isn't just "Throw them on at the death and hope they do something magical".
                          I was worried as soon as they put him on at centre. He's not the greatest defender and at 6 or 7 he is usually a bit more protected. He very nearly let in a try prior to the Hammer one when they got on the outside of him and he somehow managed to tackle Taulagi while lying on the ground. He then missed Munster badly in the lead up to the go ahead try. It will be interesting to see what Freddie does now. Does his pick Hynes at 6 and drop Luaui? Latrell comes back for sure, wonder if JAC gets punted and Crichton goes to the wing for him. I thought our forward pack for the most part were pretty good with Martin our best by a long way.

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                          • #73
                            NSW picked the wrong side. AGAIN. Hynes, Frizzell, Pangai, Hudson Young, Luai all failed to fire.
                            They had enough ball to win two games, and the almost criminal sin bin in their favor.
                            They can't run the same team out in game 2.
                            But are they willing to admit they stuffed up and make changes?
                            ofcourse Mitchell will be back if he's available, and that might get Walker a start at 5/8, and Cook back at hooker and Campbell Graham.... because they love combinations right?
                            so put 4 Souths guys in instead of none.
                            Is Leniu available for NSW?

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Andrew Walker View Post
                              Tedesco brought this seasons club form into Origin Besides half a game against St George ( where in the first half he was invisible ) he has been ineffective. Whilst not to say he cannot regain his old form the reality is at present he is a pale shadow of his former self

                              Now as for the fellow on here using on paper stats to say Teddy schooled Rhys Walsh You either did not watch the game or were full of craft beer and limoncello whilst watching in your man cave I would hazard a guess and say it was the latter. Walsh was continually outstanding under the high ball and slotted in seemlessly to the QLD attacking structure Sadly you could say neither of that about our Teddy
                              I think you're spot on Esme. Teds probably a yard slower now and the bod has taken some punishment over the years the way he plays the game. Jack always said he values a player like a car, there's only so many good miles in them.

                              Plus he plays dumb to his supports, doesn't use the hands enough and give them space. Always opts to use his own physicality to make the bust. His game needs to evolve to protect himself a little more, and use his mates to advantage. But can it?
                              #We Stand with ourJewish community#

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Chook Norris View Post

                                Get where you're coming from, but why are we quoting run metres? His run metres are a reflection of how many times he hogged the ball instead of organising his outside backs. They all got a cold around him

                                Stats don't tell you everything and watching the game you could see Walsh fitting in much better with his own team

                                And that last try was very much Teddy's fault. Whose other fault was it? Collins for outleaping him? You could say others didn't get back quickly enough but clutching at straws if you think his teammates were more to blame. Teddy practices for those moments.
                                Are they straight run metres ?

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