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As a supporter you are in it for the long haul and the term thick or thin comes to mind.
Teams are not going to win every game or every competition they compete in although many folk on here seem to think the Roosters should.
If clubs had that mentality there would be 16 head coaching roles up for grabs at the end of every NRL Season.
The onus is on the players to be better as individuals and as a team collective.
The KPI's for 2023 are well down compared to 2022 KPI's when you extrapolate these across the full season as a team and for individuals players.
That's a team and individual player performance problem and not a coaching performance problem as they are not being asked as a team or as individual players to do things in games that they have never done countless times before in seasons past.
I am sure they have a thorough PIP in place including game simulation practice to prepare the team and individual players for the upcoming match.
But once players cross the white stripe the onus is on them to perform their role and the basics of the game to the best of their ability.
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its rubbish to dismiss him even from recent failing ...when the going gets tough the tough get going ...He has to reevaluate the team pull the sword out and swing it again. Even the greats are between drinks ..Mr Handshake Bellamy....Only Ivan Cleary has the points on the board in recent timesTwo things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe
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Originally posted by Mickie Lane View PostIve said many times Robbo will make the call when he no longer wants to coach.
He's the type of bloke that would leave tomorrow if he thought that was best for the Roosters but at the moment he is as safe as a bank.
Now for some reason if he left I think Hutch would take over.
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I do agree as a supporter you are in for the long haul, thick and thin.
But that doesnt mean you have to agree with everything the club or its key personnel deliver. Its ok to respectfully disagree and make that known. And you're no less of a supporter for doing so.
I'm not a stats disciple like you King. I prefer to 'trust the eye'.
And what I've seen is a team that lacks confidence. They dont seem to trust their systems. Robbo speaks of clarity, but it doesn't show in his teams performances. They look confused and easily rattled.
Yes when they cross the stripe the Coach is directly powerless. However, his job is already done.
The things you mention where they are missing comes from lack of confidence and clarity. And that, definitely, is the responsibility of the Coach.
#We Stand with ourJewish community#
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Originally posted by Mickie Lane View PostIve said many times Robbo will make the call when he no longer wants to coach.
He's the type of bloke that would leave tomorrow if he thought that was best for the Roosters but at the moment he is as safe as a bank.
Now for some reason if he left I think Hutch would take over.#We Stand with ourJewish community#
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Yes I think as JFC said there is nothing wrong with supporters or posters critiquing the team or coach’s performance so long as it is done ‘respectfully’. The abuse, insults and name calling are way out of order. If it makes you that angry that you have to sling personal insults at the coach or players then you really need to take some time out and take a deep breath. As much as we all love the club, it’s just a game and believe it or not I’m sure Robbo and the players want to get out of this dilemma just as much as us fans want to see it happen.
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Originally posted by Jacks Fur Coat View PostI do agree as a supporter you are in for the long haul, thick and thin.
But that doesnt mean you have to agree with everything the club or its key personnel deliver. Its ok to respectfully disagree and make that known. And you're no less of a supporter for doing so.
I'm not a stats disciple like you King. I prefer to 'trust the eye'.
And what I've seen is a team that lacks confidence. They dont seem to trust their systems. Robbo speaks of clarity, but it doesn't show in his teams performances. They look confused and easily rattled.
Yes when they cross the stripe the Coach is directly powerless. However, his job is already done.
The things you mention where they are missing comes from lack of confidence and clarity. And that, definitely, is the responsibility of the Coach.
IMO he's searching very deep for answers but hasn't found them with a team that could arguably be scoring a lot more points with a more ad-lib style of play.
Are we over-coaching players who don't need coaching? I wonder whether focusing on the 'Bondi Wall' and 'Roosters Style Footy' is cramping a number of superstars who are better suited to ad-lib footy (and might not have to defend as much if they were allowed a bit more freedom to score points earlier on, rather than assuming games will be won on defence/discipline).
Just a thought for now. Not a reason to dump him... I just wonder if (a bit like Kevin Rudd as PM when given the boot for having 3 hours of sleep and being a psychopath about details)... he needs to sleep for a full 8-10 hours every night and simplify everything. I feel as though he needs something other than more footy knowledge & more positive energy.
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Originally posted by mightyrooster View PostYes I think as JFC said there is nothing wrong with supporters or posters critiquing the team or coach’s performance so long as it is done ‘respectfully’. The abuse, insults and name calling are way out of order. If it makes you that angry that you have to sling personal insults at the coach or players then you really need to take some time out and take a deep breath. As much as we all love the club, it’s just a game and believe it or not I’m sure Robbo and the players want to get out of this dilemma just as much as us fans want to see it happen.
We're all feeling the disappointment this season. Venting isn't usually a productive way forward.
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