Jerome Luai.

[Bates]

Yes and no one from media to supporters believes he should have had a spot and Hynes or Walker should have got the 6 jersey instead, he kept his jersey but if nsw loose he will be on the chopping block
as I said his only good game was against us before Origen before that he did f all this season
jaeman salmon is also a back to back premiership wonder so I’m saying just because he was in the side doesn’t make him a hero

there Is weak links in every side somewhere you just need to fine them

Hynes struggles under pressure which has reportedly cost him the #6 jersey

[Rooster_6]

No Luai is a lower tier performer in an elite team.

He ranks below Cody Walker, Dylan Brown, Matt Moylan, Luke Keary, Ezra Mam, Matt Burton, Cameron Munster, Kodi Nikorima, Kieran Foran, Jack Wighton, Josh Schuster, Tom Dearden, Tyson Gamble, Brandon Wakeham for average try involvements this season. Which is concerning given his only role in the Penrith system is to create points.

In fact the only 5/8’s he ranks above this year are Joseph Manu, Jayden Sullivan & Karl Oloapu

A lot of red flags with Luai, talk of a big contract for him is concerning. I would be steering clear.

[Bates]

No Luai is a lower tier performer in an elite team.

He ranks below Cody Walker, Dylan Brown, Matt Moylan, Luke Keary, Ezra Mam, Matt Burton, Cameron Munster, Kodi Nikorima, Kieran Foran, Jack Wighton, Josh Schuster, Tom Dearden, Tyson Gamble, Brandon Wakeham for average try involvements this season. Which is concerning given his only role in the Penrith system is to create points.

In fact the only 5/8’s he ranks above this year are Joseph Manu, Jayden Sullivan & Karl Oloapu

A lot of red flags with Luai, talk of a big contract for him is concerning. I would be steering clear.

Hi R6, If you have the time I'd be curious to see your overall ranking of the above mentioned players and where Luai sit's

[Rooster90]

Hi R6, If you have the time I'd be curious to see your overall ranking of the above mentioned players and where Luai sit's

Below Tom Deardon but just above Tyson Gamble....you can fill in the rest.

[John Corey]

He will never leave Penrith so it's irrelevant

[Bates]

Below Tom Deardon but just above Tyson Gamble....you can fill in the rest.

You really don't like him. Is it his personality that distorts your judgement?

[Dr. Voodoo Man]

He will never leave Penrith so it's irrelevant

He might for the right $$$$ especially if the salary cap is tight at Penrith.

[Bates]

He might for the right $$$$ especially if the salary cap is tight at Penrith.

Apparently he's a loser so let's not waste anymore time entertaining the thought,

[Rooster_6]

Hi R6, If you have the time I'd be curious to see your overall ranking of the above mentioned players and where Luai sit's

Without giving it too much thought.

Top tier (in no order)
Cam Munster
Cody Walker
Luke Keary
Dylan Brown

2nd tier (in no order)
Matt Burton
Ezra Mam
Jack Wighton


3rd tier (in no order)
Tom Dearden
Jerome Luai
Josh Schuster
Kieran Foran

Bottom tier (in no order)
Matt Moylan
Tyson Gamble
Brandon Wakeham
Talatau Amone

Haven't ranked Dolphins and Warriors as not really clear who their first choice 5/8's are.

I also think players like Ben Hunt, Nicho Hynes, Shaun Johnson and Sam Walker are all more naturally gifted 5/8's than Luai.

Given he has the privilege of playing outside the best organising halfback in the comp and in the best side in the comp for the last 3 and a half years he really shouldn't be getting out performed by players like Kodi Nikorima, Tyson Gamble and Brandon Wakeham who are all squad rotational players for clubs with much bigger issues.

[mattyh]

Without giving it too much thought.

Top tier (in no order)
Cam Munster
Cody Walker
Luke Keary
Dylan Brown

2nd tier (in no order)
Matt Burton
Ezra Mam
Jack Wighton


3rd tier (in no order)
Tom Dearden
Jerome Luai
Josh Schuster
Kieran Foran

Bottom tier (in no order)
Matt Moylan
Tyson Gamble
Brandon Wakeham
Talatau Amone

Haven't ranked Dolphins and Warriors as not really clear who their first choice 5/8's are.

I also think players like Ben Hunt, Nicho Hynes, Shaun Johnson and Sam Walker are all more naturally gifted 5/8's than Luai.

Given he has the privilege of playing outside the best organising halfback in the comp and in the best side in the comp for the last 3 and a half years he really shouldn't be getting out performed by players like Kodi Nikorima, Tyson Gamble and Brandon Wakeham who are all squad rotational players for clubs with much bigger issues.

interesting list , I thought luai was good in origin 1 , not that I really care , I'd have him above mam, wighton, on form above Burton, above keary as well . have you watched any Penrith games recently he has shredded some teams , but that is just the way I see it .

he is also pretty solid defensively , which is a bonus .

[Rooster_6]

interesting list , I thought luai was good in origin 1 , not that I really care , I'd have him above mam, wighton, on form above Burton, above keary as well . have you watched any Penrith games recently he has shredded some teams , but that is just the way I see it .

he is also pretty solid defensively , which is a bonus .

Probably watched half of Penrith’s games this year, think he’s been pretty poor to be honest in a side that dominates field position as much as they do he should be creating more.

I thought he was decent in game 1 also but has been underwhelming in origin outside of that.

Wighton for me is limited but he understands his limitations and plays to that. Keary is a far superior player, if you put him in that Panthers side he double’s all of Laui’s creative numbers. I also think Burton is a victim of playing in a Bulldogs outfit that’s been very poor for a long time, again I think you put him in that Panthers side and he’s outperforming Luai instantly.

Mam is debatable though, I still don’t have a firm opinion on him as he’s a sub 30game half.

[Bates]

Without giving it too much thought.

Top tier (in no order)
Cam Munster
Cody Walker
Luke Keary
Dylan Brown

2nd tier (in no order)
Matt Burton
Ezra Mam
Jack Wighton


3rd tier (in no order)
Tom Dearden
Jerome Luai
Josh Schuster
Kieran Foran

Bottom tier (in no order)
Matt Moylan
Tyson Gamble
Brandon Wakeham
Talatau Amone

Haven't ranked Dolphins and Warriors as not really clear who their first choice 5/8's are.

I also think players like Ben Hunt, Nicho Hynes, Shaun Johnson and Sam Walker are all more naturally gifted 5/8's than Luai.

Given he has the privilege of playing outside the best organising halfback in the comp and in the best side in the comp for the last 3 and a half years he really shouldn't be getting out performed by players like Kodi Nikorima, Tyson Gamble and Brandon Wakeham who are all squad rotational players for clubs with much bigger issues.

I like the tier system. I'd roughly go

Munster - Freakish ability to turn a game on it's head.
Walker - Best playmaker in the competition.
Keary - Love him
Burton - Still performs in a team full of rookies. Big boot.

Brown - awesome when he's on however struggles with consistency
Laui - Plays well in big games. Was comfortably NSW best in game 1.
Wighton - Powerful ballrunaer

Mam - Will be the games best one day. Potentially another Thurston
Dearden - Works hard. His game is improving.

Then the rest of the crew you've listed including Nikorima.

[Johnny Brass]

Luai dragged that Samoa team into the world cup final without a decent half-back, I can understand that he isn't the most likeable player in the comp but he plays tough for his size and makes his tackles and is very good at chasing from marker and going low early in sets to help pin opposition deep on their line. He has a clever short kicking game and a wicked left foot step.
I think his abilities are getting a bit underrated but i cant see him leaving the panthers and to be fair i hope he doesnt, i like seeing players who grew up together stay together.

[Bates]

Luai dragged that Samoa team into the world cup final without a decent half-back, I can understand that he isn't the most likeable player in the comp but he plays tough for his size and makes his tackles and is very good at chasing from marker and going low early in sets to help pin opposition deep on their line. He has a clever short kicking game and a wicked left foot step.
I think his abilities are getting a bit underrated but i cant see him leaving the panthers and to be fair i hope he doesnt, i like seeing players who grew up together stay together.

Hi JB, I rate him too! Knob of a human but a very good footy player

[SupermanSupportsEasts4Eva]

Luai dragged that Samoa team into the world cup final without a decent half-back, I can understand that he isn't the most likeable player in the comp but he plays tough for his size and makes his tackles and is very good at chasing from marker and going low early in sets to help pin opposition deep on their line. He has a clever short kicking game and a wicked left foot step.
I think his abilities are getting a bit underrated but i cant see him leaving the panthers and to be fair i hope he doesnt, i like seeing players who grew up together stay together.

I get what you are trying to say, but out of the teams that Samoa beat in the World Cup, how many of them had a quality 1-17. Maybe just England in the semi. Its not like Luai lead them to victories against Aust or NZ