Coach Stuart - 2013

[Guest]

Stuart didnt want thurston, stuart loved finch, stuart played tod byrne in a gf, stuart underused a brilliant toops in 04 gf, suarts success came off the back of murrays recruitment and King Fittler. **** Smith off, let Taylor take over until we can snag Bellamy

[Guest]

Bellamy is a pipedream my crossdressing friend. It will never happen. Trust me. What we will have will be better. Bellamy is an average coach blessed with a green light.

[roosterproud]

A quick note before I leave tomorrow.

Too many times have I heard fatty vaughtin's love child from the 70's, make up bullshit and feed it to people.

If you honestly believe the rumor itself and that Weidler is actually in the know, then I might as well get Darryl Brohman to wear a red suit and tell you guys that santa clause is coming to town. Reporter's these days, especially news hound like Weidler, make their money like fortune tellers do. "Making a educated guess from any whiff of info". Even if 1 out of 10 guesses are right , then suddenly they are viewed as geniuses.

How many times do we hear of a player movement and only seconds later the associated club or player to deny it. Many friends of mine went into journalism and they told me pretty much what I have just told you.

As for the rumor itself Ricky Stuart must not return to this club. As much as it hurts me to say this , I'd even prefer smith stay as coach.

Stuart's time at our club can be summed up into 2 phrases:

1. "right man, at the right place, at the right time".

2."Fed off an already established team from G.Murray's good work"

When Stuart arrived most of our players were already half way into their careers or further even. After 04' when the times got tough he folded.

Whether you want to say he invested in the wrong players or not is up to you.

He then went and screwed up an already screwed club in cronulla. Got rid of players like Kimmorley, de gois , dykes etc. all of whom went on to have great seasons at other clubs. All his players purchased were shit. And he left the club in an embattle position. Our club is not even close to being the almost finished product the 02 side was. I'm not sure if he has entirely proven himself at origin level either.

I say this as a rooster fan who loves his club and wants to see them do well. I think 3 games a year for stuart to coach is more than enough.

I will really miss this forum as I'll be gone for a while. Go the mighty easts!

good post and true on alot of levels.

it was murrays team that won the 02 gf, regardless of the phantom hemeriods and his meaningless trype

[Guest]

Dykes went to Parra and played like a busted!!

No, incorrect. When he left Cronulla in 2007, the following year he went to super league. Was not the best half but a decent one. Better than Tim Smith IMO.

[Guest]

Stuart didnt want thurston, stuart loved finch, stuart played tod byrne in a gf, stuart underused a brilliant toops in 04 gf, suarts success came off the back of murrays recruitment and King Fittler. **** Smith off, let Taylor take over until we can snag Bellamy

Correct me if I'm wrong ,but didn't Stuart sign some 18 year backrower for $600k over 3 yrs, before he had even debuted. He signed him when he was at the sharks, I think. Yeah he's never had success with signing young kids or developing them which makes him the worst possible person to bring to this club. I agree , let Taylor take over.

[Guest]

Brian smith was brought here to rebuild our team from scratch with young up and comming talent which his really good at but he lacks that finals punch...i think by the end of the year smith would of completed that job which would have our team primed ready for Ricky stuart to take it to the next level which i think his made for and not rebuilding a team..

[Guest]

^^^^^ its been the plan for afew years now

[BUDDY]

^^^^^ its been the plan for afew years now

I am amazed at how many new posters have joined in the last couple of weeks that know what the secret clubs plans are or what has been in their plans over the last couple of years.

As an experiment, can one of the admins ban the ip address of say Mr Walker or the Lemon for a week and see how many of these new guys disappear.

[Vasco]

I think the intensity he bought to the club in 2002 is just what we need for the next couple of seasons.

I don't think his style was/is sustainable over a long period of time. But for the short-med term, in a limited coaching capacity, with a more matured outlook, I have a feeling things could be different.

Certainly he's a hard bastard, and Easts are the softest I've seen them for some time.

I'm backing this. True or not.

That is the key point in all of this.

[Guest]

So if your saying stuart took graham murrays team of champions to win a gf then stuart can take brian smiths team and do the same thing...

Graham murray built a team at the roosters and took it to a gf versus broncoz but lost then stuart came along and finished it off..

Brian smith is building a team like graham,,has takin us to a gf and lost versus the dragqueens now stuart mite come back to do the samething like 2002

Smith & Graham are proberly good at rebuilding teams but not taking it to the next level,,Ricky stuart is the oppisite so it will be a good time for him to come if he comes in 2013

[Guest]

what an absolute load of crap about murray.

he didnt build anything. the team was going backwards at an alarming rate in 2001 under him in his second season so much so that freddy was even comtemplating an early retirement, thats how much he wasnt enjoying his footy.

[stsae]

what an absolute load of crap about murray.

he didnt build anything. the team was going backwards at an alarming rate in 2001 under him in his second season so much so that freddy was even comtemplating an early retirement, thats how much he wasnt enjoying his footy.

Finally some Fredo quality.

It was Gus who built that side, bought those kids to the club, and made sure we obtained blokes like Fitzy and Pingy.

PRicky inherited a very well built young squad and took it to another level. He also dismantled that squad, yes the cap didn't do him any good, but he still let many young talented players leave especially 1/2s. IMO letting Crock and Mozz go were his worst decisions, oh and buying Funch and Bwaiff.

Now Smiff and POS and Co have built a very good young squad with the potential to really do some damage in the next few seasons, especially with Baloney coming in for Bwaiff.

Question is, IF pRicky is given the same advantages, stepping into a ready built squad, will he fark it again??? Has he learnt from his past mistakes??? After all he did the same thing to The Tards, and it's taken Flannagan this long to re-build the joint.

Many on here, including you Fredo, accuse Smiff of being a destroyer of clubs. But look at the places he's gone to. They have all struggled the previous seasons. He takes them all regularly to semis and improves them all elbowing dead wood and promoting quality youth, he builds clubs. Then when he's been moved on those clubs continue their success under their new coaches. Even Watsamatta and Poocastle, after he was removed mid-season went on to make the semis under rookie coaches. Blind Freddy could see Smiff built that no matter what spin the media agendas want to spin.

Sure he hasn't obtained the holy grail, but he builds clubs and leaves them in better shape than when he arrives. He will have done his job here, whenever his time is up. IMO I'd let him finish his final year being 2013, lets see what he can do without the dead wood and with the kids having that bit more experience.

Do you want pRicky back Fredo??? I know you remember what he did. Funch and Bwaiff.

[Headless Chook]

So if your saying stuart took graham murrays team of champions to win a gf then stuart can take brian smiths team and do the same thing...

Graham murray built a team at the roosters and took it to a gf versus broncoz but lost then stuart came along and finished it off..

Brian smith is building a team like graham,,has takin us to a gf and lost versus the dragqueens now stuart mite come back to do the samething like 2002

Smith & Graham are proberly good at rebuilding teams but not taking it to the next level,,Ricky stuart is the oppisite so it will be a good time for him to come if he comes in 2013

How do you build a team in one season? Gould was coach from 1995-1999 so Murray took Gould's team to the GF. Then in 2001, the team went from finishing 2nd in the regular season and runners up to limping into the finals and copping a hiding from the Knights. Murray debuted a few kids in Mini, Hegs and Solimona but the team regressed badly in the 2nd year under him, so much so that fittler was talking about reitrement. People give Murray way too much credit for the 2002 win.

[Vasco]

Graham Murray had the foundations laid for him from 1995-1999 by Gould.

The genius that was Fittler got us to the GF in 2000.

The team went backwards in 2001.

[stsae]

Graham Murray had the foundations laid for him from 1995-1999 by Gould.

The genius that was Fittler got us to the GF in 2000.

The team went backwards in 2001.

Why do I always get blamed mate???