Robbo lost the dressing room

[Qld Chook]

I must admit, first of all, that I barely watch the game these days -- the rules are laughable. A bad joke. I can't stomach it for more than 10 or 15 minutes before turning it off and doing something more pleasurable -- like using a cheese-grater on my face.

But putting that aside, the Roosters simply look a jaded team. How many players did we take into that World Cup at the end of last season? How many of our players had a decent off-season? It takes its toll. And I know it's not just us. It might explain why there's been no standout team this season and why results have been so unpredictable.

I get what you are saying but Penrith were well represented at the World Cup and have had 3 of the longest seasons the last 3 years and are doing ok this year.

[zac]

Exactly. Criticism of Robbo is about the past few years and nothing to do with his premiership wins or previous build of the culture. It's dumb to conflate the two. Credits in the bank usually have an expiry date, especially in first class sport.

but is an assessment of robbo's performance fair if it doesn't take into account his being at the helm when we won comps? winning comps has to count for something. past success is no guarantee of future success but the bloke has a record of steering us to comps and that has to count for something. let's not let the disappointment that we've only won 2 comps in the past 5 or 6 years mean we get rid of a coach who is possibly/probably our best option to achieve success in the future.

why should we think that the past 3 years is our guide? why not the past 2? no one can seriously say that the team's performance in 2021 was an under-performance given the players we had injured.

how bad were we in 2020 and 2022?
in 2020 we lost cronk but still finished top 4 and only lost by a point to the minor premiers in a semi. no doubt the loss to canberra was poor, but if we'd managed to sneak home v penrith we wouldn't have looked shot in the prelim the way we looked shot v canberra. if cleary had missed a conversion we would have made it to the prelim.
in 2022 we were in the top 2, and the form team coming into the semis, well placed to win the comp. then we lost manu before the semis and teddy and others in the semi. you can't blame the coach for that. if we had a fit roster in the semis we would have killed souths, killed the sharks the following week and might well have got the panthers who were a bit rusty after their week off

[Juggler]

I get what you are saying but Penrith were well represented at the World Cup and have had 3 of the longest seasons the last 3 years and are doing ok this year.

They're younger...

[ism22]

They're younger...

Yep and their squad's established.

While the term 'rebuild' is frowned upon, I think our 2019 winning team has been completely gutted. We lost Cronk, Latrell, Friend, Cordner, Liu, SST, Maubs, Moz...etc.

Unfortunately it's been a rough transition with multiple injury-riddled transitions and this year... players simply not finding form (I have NFI why but we just s*ck!!! Guys just haven't gelled the way we wanted them to).

I know it's difficult to see it but in 2009 the Dragons seemed invincible and we seemed hopeless. Things can change VERY quickly. IMO as fans we just need to chill and ride it out. If anybody's in Canberra, I'm happy to share a homebrew with 'em

[Les Tricolores]

You are demented.

Another thoughtful contribution from the bloke who proudly stupefies himself every day

Funny how you stoners always congregate together at the lowest common denominator

There is no coincidence in that

[Kelby]

Obviously losing games affects the general atmosphere of any club, people look for reasons, the blame game starts.
Hard times can bring people together or tear them apart, we are struggling right now.
I feel Robinson has made some errors, and has certainly lost some of the aura of invincability he once had.
It doesn't take much to put a team out of balance.
The issues with....
Suaalii moving to centre failed
Walker being dropped instead of coached when we had no replacement, failed
Manu moving to 5/8 failed,
Keary moving to half failed,
Teddy feeling all the pressure and struggling with the captaincy,
Crighton missing the preseason and his mental health issues,
Hutchison being out of his depth and putting pressure on players around him,
Lodge obviously a divisive character when things don't go his way.
Smith, the big import who struggles to perform at hooker.
Radley the loose cannon, who's immaturity surely wears thin with teammates.
There are plenty of issues, and it's up to the coach to fix them.

The fact that he told Robbo he has signed with the dolphins for 2025 really hurt the club.

[NorfolkStreetKid]

The fact that he told Robbo he has signed with the dolphins for 2025 really hurt the club.

Rubbish

[Johnny Brass]

Yep and their squad's established.

While the term 'rebuild' is frowned upon, I think our 2019 winning team has been completely gutted. We lost Cronk, Latrell, Friend, Cordner, Liu, SST, Maubs, Moz...etc.

Unfortunately it's been a rough transition with multiple injury-riddled transitions and this year... players simply not finding form (I have NFI why but we just s*ck!!! Guys just haven't gelled the way we wanted them to).

I know it's difficult to see it but in 2009 the Dragons seemed invincible and we seemed hopeless. Things can change VERY quickly. IMO as fans we just need to chill and ride it out. If anybody's in Canberra, I'm happy to share a homebrew with 'em

That's my point about our squad, we lost all those great players and besides Manu our other guns Teddy,Keary, JWH, Toups and Angus aren't as good as they were.

[Rooster90]

The fact that he told Robbo he has signed with the dolphins for 2025 really hurt the club.

Considering he is in fact signed until the END of 2025.....you are wrong

[Thirteen]

The fact that he told Robbo he has signed with the dolphins for 2025 really hurt the club.

No need to make shit up.

[Bates]

the fact that he told robbo he has signed with the dolphins for 2025 really hurt the club.

Bombshell

[A Country Member]

Has Trent found the dressing room yet?
It’s up the tunnel on the right I fink.. or was it left

[Random Rooster]

No need to make shit up.

Considering the name of this thread i don't think the truth is of utmost importance

[Paddo Colt 61]

Coaches weren't celebrated up to the 80s. Gibson, by dint of example, professionalised it in the early seventies. Before that, there were often Captain/Coaches even at the top level; Keith Barnes a notable but not at the time. Anyway Gibson the innovator. Sports headlines with the US trips and the black eyeliner, Tackle counts, % football, Change strip at the break in wet games, plucking a fella out of an A Grade grand final to play in an ARL Final - all great publicity if nothing else. That's the way you build a club - vision like that.

Brass, I think, was a scratching from a Qualifier, and Gibson elevates this kid from the park; Reg Clough was his name, one game - a QF with guys he must have worshipped from afar - Artie, The Shoe - a wonderful player), Mark Harris, Bunny. It was a terrific unit.

Everyone knows about Reinberger (who took the position the next week) but 'ol Reggie is a forgotten man yet somehow should get more recognition particularly since it was the sensation of the week. Reinberger was graded but Reggie's come from out of nowhere. Was Gibbo playing mind games? As it was Reg didn't get a touch as I recall; it was just an afternoon out with heroes and then see ya later. It was obviously promotional but very effective and probably not all that risky. The boys did it with Cronk armless which is not apples with apples but it was a different game and that probably evens things out.

[A Country Member]

I just think Trent just got his timing wrong this season.

After the World Cup, he gave the participating players extra time off and some had a reduced off season for the majority of the squad. He was relying on building into the season but as we’ve seen, that hasn’t happened.