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  • #16
    Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post

    I think his poor discipline is a little bit over-stated due to the nature of the penalties he gives away rather than the number of penalties he gives away.

    For example, he's given away as many penalties per game this year than Nat Butcher & Joey Manu, yet I've never seen either criticised on here for their poor discipline.

    I also think it's a miss-correlation to align his poor discipline with the sides run of poor performances, it's not like his discipline has suddenly deteriorated. In the 52 games he played from 2018-19 in our back-to-back seasons he averaged a penalty every 1.68 games, in the 48 games he played from 2021-23 he has averaged a penalty every 1.6 games.
    No mention of Radley holding the record for the most sin bins in the NRL. How do you think his team mates feel when they're down to 12 men?

    From 2013 to 2019 the Roosters would intentionally give away penalties to arrest the oppositions momentum, reset their line and have a breather. The 6 a gain rule was introduced in 2020 which made this Trent Robinson tactic counter productive. You now place your team under great pressure when you gift the opposition a 6 again. This is where Radley's poor disciple has hurt us the most. No doubt his team mates would get the shits after working their but off and watching Vic give away another silly penalty and be marched to the bin.

    If all 17 players gave away 1.6 penalties per game our total count would be 27.2 .
    Last edited by Bates; 07-23-2023, 11:11 AM.

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    • #17
      I know there is a lot of love for Radley here.
      Roosters junior and loves the club.
      But seriously when was the last time he had a great game ?
      That game when he was binned twice.... or was it 3 times ?
      He could be one of the best locks in the game, he has the skills, or had them,
      He was a ball player, but we haven't seen it for some time.
      IF he can get his head right then 100% I would love to see him as a career Rooster.
      He would make a great 14 as well.
      It would be a shame to lose him, but if he keeps costing the team by being penalised, sent, suspended etc
      then he might have to go to England,
      Obviously he is an easy target in the NRL.
      I hated him getting the INFLICTOR tag, because I thought it would go to his head
      and he would cost us trying to live up to it.
      Last edited by NorfolkStreetKid; 07-23-2023, 11:53 AM.

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      • #18
        To be fair I think Brown is looking better at the moment in the 13 position..

        Not fussed with Radley either way,his good games are few and far between..
        Last edited by Lydon; 07-23-2023, 11:34 AM.

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        • #19
          we've won comps with victor and he's played a big part in that and he's a very good player. has looked a little frustrated at times this year but he's in my team every week

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          • #20
            When fit Rads has to be in the 17

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            • #21
              Originally posted by NorfolkStreetKid View Post
              I know there is a lot of love for Radley here.
              Roosters junior and loves the club.
              But seriously when was the last time he had a great game ?
              That game when he was binned twice.... or was it 3 times ?
              He could be one of the best locks in the game, he has the skills, or had them,
              He was a ball player, but we haven't seen it for some time.
              IF he can get his head right then 100% I would love to see him as a career Rooster.
              He would make a great 14 as well.
              It would be a shame to lose him, but if he keeps costing the team by being penalised, sent, suspended etc
              then he might have to go to England,
              Obviously he is an easy target in the NRL.
              I hated him getting the INFLICTOR tag, because I thought it would go to his head
              and he would cost us trying to live up to it.
              This ^^^^^.
              I don’t care that he is a Roosters junior, loves the club etc, I care about the fact that honestly since the end of 2019, so basically 4 seasons I think you would be lucky to count 2 games where you would rate his score at a greater than 5 out of 10. He has produced no outstanding games,only a few at a serviceable level but many times more where he outright cost us the game or put us in losable positions by being a dumb meat head who makes stupid decisions. Honestly if I was an opposition coach I’d tell every player to niggle him knowing that he’s not mature enough to walk away which will lead to cheap penalties or sin bins.Take out his brain fades & I think he over estimates his abilities & thinks he’s a Halfback, but actually stymies our attack. Now before everyone rants & raves about me being soft it’s actually the opposite & just that I can face reality. I think 9/10 sin-bins are play on, should never even be penalties, hate the shoulder charge being removed & believe they should allow 2 blokes to go toe to toe without repercussion, but the modern world & the sooks demand otherwise. I don’t think any of what he has done deserves din bins, but the game does unfortunately so he has to adapt to that & abide by it otherwise he goes the way as Napa as I feel he offers very little else. The fact is as much as we hate to say if all sports are now just jobs with bosses, owners, HR, lawyers etc involved & the only thing that counts is your productivity & worth to the club. Being on the sidelines & single handedly costing your clubs wins & finals ultimately leads to loss or sponsors & revenue. I’d be more than happy for the club to move him in as I honestly don’t have sentiment or feel nostalgic towards players & their history.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Lydon View Post
                To be fair I think Brown is looking better at the moment in the 13 position..

                Not fussed with Radley either way,his good games are few and far between..
                Yep I’m not sure I remember him playing one or 2 high quality games in the last 4 seasons.

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