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  • #31
    Originally posted by Qld Chook View Post
    Haas is good, but the reality is a front rower won’t win you comps…. We would have to pay a mill to get him, something I’m not keen on.

    Plus, if it did happen I’m sure the Bronx would hit back by signing Sammy Walker - who I’d prefer.
    I get the feeling Walkers gone no matter what.
    FVCK CANCER

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Inflictor View Post

      So you need good front rowers to win the comp now.

      What was JWH on when we won B2B? Reports are $800K. So an extra $200K in times when the salary cap is much higher probably warrants the extra for what Haas has to offer. He is the best going around and can play 80 minutes. Haas, Collins, Spencer and one of our young guns wins us a comp. $1M is his market value as other teams are prepared to pay it. I hope he comes.

      BTW those bringing up his Mum shows how low some people are.
      Lower than blatantly disregarding some pretty heinous actions that resulted in the deaths of 3 innocent people, purely because you think he is a good front rower? Lol.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by HunchoRooster View Post

        Lower than blatantly disregarding some pretty heinous actions that resulted in the deaths of 3 innocent people, purely because you think he is a good front rower? Lol.
        What she did is what she did. She is paying the price for it. It has nothing to do with his character and to use it against him is pretty pathetic. LOL

        FFS

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        • #34
          Originally posted by rented tracksuit View Post
          I get the feeling Walkers gone no matter what.
          I hope not but I have a similar feeling which sucks. I think it’d be a decision we regret if it eventuates, he is exactly what we need rn.

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          • #35
            Gees 1 Million for a prop

            Folk are banging on about the Roosters having spent 1.55 mill on two centres - Manu - 800 k and Suaalii - 750 k and 800 k on a Dummy Half - Brandon Smith

            Props 600 to 800 k max range for Seasoned NRL/Rep props

            Paying a prop 1 million would have a flow on affect to other roles - how much then do you pay so called spine players/ wingers/ other forwards especially the ones that play 80 minutes week in week out.

            How much are Goal Kicking Backs worth ?

            Your Cap will be out of whack paying overs for certain positions.

            Regular 13 players - min to max

            Fullbacks - 600 k to 800 k
            Wingers - 300 to 400 k
            Centres - 400 to 600 k
            5/8's - 600 to 800 k
            7's - 600 to 800k
            Props - 400 to 800 k
            Dummy Halves - 600 to 800k
            Second Rowers - 400 to 600k
            Locks - 400 k to 600 k

            5.8 mill min to 8.6 mill max

            Then from 2.85 to 5.65 mill left for the 17 other players for a 30 player squad - min wage is currently 120 k

            Last edited by King Salvo; 08-10-2023, 02:38 PM. Reason: Left out Dummy Half role

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Inflictor View Post

              Props give you the go forward so the spine can do their work.
              If you think we can win games with Collins and Spencer then you will be blaming Robbo again in 2025.
              Look what happens to us when JWH and Collins are off the field. All respect to our young guns but they are not ready for NRL and probably won't be in 2025 which leaves us exposed. Many thought that Baker and May were going to step up so nothing is guaranteed for anyone else coming through.

              Many teams will go for Walker regardless of whether we get Haas or not. Even if Haas stays in Brisbane they will still go for Walker. A bit naïve to think not.
              Our go forward isn’t the issue this year though. We roll down field, we just don’t capitalise with scoring points. I can’t see Haas helping with this.

              It’s naive to think that an extra $1.1M in their salary cap won’t give the Bronx a significant advantage in securing Walker.

              If you had to choose, who would you prefer at the club long term, Haas or Walker?

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Inflictor View Post

                What she did is what she did. She is paying the price for it. It has nothing to do with his character and to use it against him is pretty pathetic. LOL

                FFS
                I don't think its pathetic. I think it's somewhat reflective of the character or at least the off-field distractions that he would create. Club doesn't need it.

                It's "pretty pathetic" to disregard it flippantly because he is a good footy player.

                I happen to think he is an amazing front rower. One of the best the game has seen in a very long time. I also think he seems to have 3-4 incidents off-field every year, many of which are reflective of his character. For example, asking for a release during the season, criticising the club and its fans mid-season. The main reason that you don't consider to be a big deal is the most recent and high-profile and admittedly he didn't have much control of it. Still creates negative headlines.

                It would be a panic buy. He isn't even the most important player at the Broncos so you can win comps without spending 7 figures on front rower.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Qld Chook View Post

                  Our go forward isn’t the issue this year though. We roll down field, we just don’t capitalise with scoring points. I can’t see Haas helping with this.

                  It’s naive to think that an extra $1.1M in their salary cap won’t give the Bronx a significant advantage in securing Walker.

                  If you had to choose, who would you prefer at the club long term, Haas or Walker?
                  You are forgetting we are losing JWH. Look what happened to the team when we had just JWH and Collins and brought in Lodge last year. Next year we will have JWH, Collins and Spencer. In 2025 we need another top class prop to replace JWH as we won't have anyone ready from the lower grades. There is nobody better than Haas and if Uncle Nick gets him you will be creaming your pants in 2025 and back on the Robbo bandwagon.

                  Broncos have unlimited third parties. If they want Haas and Walker they will get them both. As will we.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by HunchoRooster View Post

                    I don't think its pathetic. I think it's somewhat reflective of the character or at least the off-field distractions that he would create. Club doesn't need it.

                    It's "pretty pathetic" to disregard it flippantly because he is a good footy player.

                    I happen to think he is an amazing front rower. One of the best the game has seen in a very long time. I also think he seems to have 3-4 incidents off-field every year, many of which are reflective of his character. For example, asking for a release during the season, criticising the club and its fans mid-season. The main reason that you don't consider to be a big deal is the most recent and high-profile and admittedly he didn't have much control of it. Still creates negative headlines.

                    It would be a panic buy. He isn't even the most important player at the Broncos so you can win comps without spending 7 figures on front rower.
                    What would you know of any off-field distractions he will bring?

                    So what his Mum did is reflective of his character.

                    That's like saying if you are a FDC your kids are also FDC's.

                    I suppose Nicho is a druggo and dealer. And he brings along plenty of off-field distractions as a result of his Mum.

                    FFS

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by King Salvo View Post
                      Gees 1 Million for a prop

                      Folk are banging on about the Roosters having spent 1.55 mill on two centres - Manu - 800 k and Suaalii - 750 k and 800 k on a Dummy Half - Brandon Smith

                      Props 600 to 800 k max range for Seasoned NRL/Rep props

                      Paying a prop 1 million would have a flow on affect to other roles - how much then do you pay so called spine players/ wingers/ other forwards especially the ones that play 80 minutes week in week out.

                      How much are Goal Kicking Backs worth ?

                      Your Cap will be out of whack paying overs for certain positions.

                      Regular 13 players - min to max

                      Fullbacks - 600 k to 800 k
                      Wingers - 300 to 400 k
                      Centres - 400 to 600 k
                      5/8's - 600 to 800 k
                      7's - 600 to 800k
                      Props - 400 to 800 k
                      Dummy Halves - 600 to 800k
                      Second Rowers - 400 to 600k
                      Locks - 400 k to 600 k

                      5.8 mill min to 8.6 mill max

                      Then from 2.85 to 5.65 mill left for the 17 other players for a 30 player squad - min wage is currently 120 k
                      Could happen
                      keep in mind
                      jwh $800k to retire
                      Keary $800k to retire or more on
                      Suaali $750k gone
                      Gus critchon if not re signed $750k
                      tupou $400k maybe retires

                      rhe average salary is around $400k for a top 30 player at $12m salary cap and with it climbing to $14m next season that’s up to $470k so we have to realise we are not living 5-10 years ago and player wages are also inflating
                      if good props are $800k now an extra $200k isn’t much more

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by King Salvo View Post
                        Gees 1 Million for a prop

                        Folk are banging on about the Roosters having spent 1.55 mill on two centres - Manu - 800 k and Suaalii - 750 k and 800 k on a Dummy Half - Brandon Smith

                        Props 600 to 800 k max range for Seasoned NRL/Rep props

                        Paying a prop 1 million would have a flow on affect to other roles - how much then do you pay so called spine players/ wingers/ other forwards especially the ones that play 80 minutes week in week out.

                        How much are Goal Kicking Backs worth ?

                        Your Cap will be out of whack paying overs for certain positions.

                        Regular 13 players - min to max

                        Fullbacks - 600 k to 800 k
                        Wingers - 300 to 400 k
                        Centres - 400 to 600 k
                        5/8's - 600 to 800 k
                        7's - 600 to 800k
                        Props - 400 to 800 k
                        Dummy Halves - 600 to 800k
                        Second Rowers - 400 to 600k
                        Locks - 400 k to 600 k

                        5.8 mill min to 8.6 mill max

                        Then from 2.85 to 5.65 mill left for the 17 other players for a 30 player squad - min wage is currently 120 k
                        Folks do that sometimes.

                        Folks also watch baseball.

                        How many Folks do you reckon are Braves fans on here?
                        Last edited by rented tracksuit; 08-10-2023, 09:19 PM.
                        FVCK CANCER

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Inflictor View Post

                          The dogs have said they have pulled out. They might know.
                          Oh really? Where did you see this? I don't think we should spend all that money on Haas myself.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Inflictor View Post

                            You are forgetting we are losing JWH. Look what happened to the team when we had just JWH and Collins and brought in Lodge last year. Next year we will have JWH, Collins and Spencer. In 2025 we need another top class prop to replace JWH as we won't have anyone ready from the lower grades. There is nobody better than Haas and if Uncle Nick gets him you will be creaming your pants in 2025 and back on the Robbo bandwagon.

                            Broncos have unlimited third parties. If they want Haas and Walker they will get them both. As will we.
                            I’m not disagreeing with you, but you still haven’t answered who you’d prefer? if I had to choose, it’s Walker easily. We will need to recruit a front rower when JWH retires but I’d prefer to spend less. Moe would be my pick and I think Whyte will develop nicely.

                            I rate Carrigan more than Haas aswell. Think he has more impact on a game and better leadership skills, but I don’t see him ever leaving Brissy.

                            Again, it’s only my opinion, but that’s how I’d manage the salary cap. It’s probably our recent injury rate that’s scared me off over investing too much money in any one position. Many ways to skin a cat though
                            Last edited by Qld Chook; 08-10-2023, 03:12 PM.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by rented tracksuit View Post
                              Folks do that sometimes.

                              Folks also watch baseball.

                              How many Folkes do you reckon are Braves fans on here?
                              d'deya d'deya d'deya d dats all folks.
                              Let's have a square dance,
                              some boot scootin boogie.
                              c'mon folks gather round
                              come see the village idiot.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by rented tracksuit View Post
                                Folks do that sometimes.

                                Folks also watch baseball.

                                How many Folkes do you reckon are Braves fans on here?
                                Folks also obsess over random internet users and reply to every comment they make

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