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  • #76
    Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post

    You’ve missed the point entirely.
    No I haven't.

    Sure we can discuss who can replace Robbo until the cows come home but for some who actually just say "But Who" because they have nothing in terms of a solution is just an easy cop out.

    Scared of change, no ideas of their own or happy with a yesterday's hero feel good vibe...

    At least I have an opinion that should Robbo fail next year he should get the boot & I trust Roosters management to find someone with new vision. Don't care who.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Eggspert View Post

      No I haven't.

      Sure we can discuss who can replace Robbo until the cows come home but for some who actually just say "But Who" because they have nothing in terms of a solution is just an easy cop out.

      Scared of change, no ideas of their own or happy with a yesterday's hero feel good vibe...

      At least I have an opinion that should Robbo fail next year he should get the boot & I trust Roosters management to find someone with new vision. Don't care who.
      So you want Robbo gone, but you dont care who the replacement is?

      You're no different to anyone else who has no answers for a replacement.

      Bottom line is, Robbo has made mistakes however I think the run we've seen of late shows that he hasn't lost the ability to coach.

      He'll learn from it, and we'll be stronger next year.

      I love that we aren't like the Tigers, Dogs etc who are constantly knee jerking at the first sign of adversity and booting the coach.

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      • #78
        Doesn’t really matter to much as we wouldn’t have won the competition in any case. We are light years away from the top three with the roster we have, I was looking at the 2019 squad photo and realised we lost so much talent and experience in such a short period and it’s going to take some time to rebuild, We are still short in some areas due to a number of factors ranging from age, injury and just not being able to replace players like for like as in skill level.
        It’s been fantastic to see a lot of the younger players getting game time as we have some real talent there and they will be so much better for it next year.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Eggspert View Post

          No I haven't.

          Sure we can discuss who can replace Robbo until the cows come home but for some who actually just say "But Who" because they have nothing in terms of a solution is just an easy cop out.

          Scared of change, no ideas of their own or happy with a yesterday's hero feel good vibe...

          At least I have an opinion that should Robbo fail next year he should get the boot & I trust Roosters management to find someone with new vision. Don't care who.
          I'm with you mate. There is obviously a clear divide on this one it appears.
          #We Stand with ourJewish community#

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Eggspert View Post

            No I haven't.

            Sure we can discuss who can replace Robbo until the cows come home but for some who actually just say "But Who" because they have nothing in terms of a solution is just an easy cop out.

            Scared of change, no ideas of their own or happy with a yesterday's hero feel good vibe...

            At least I have an opinion that should Robbo fail next year he should get the boot & I trust Roosters management to find someone with new vision. Don't care who.
            I was debating your point that asking who next was a redundant question, not your opinion of Trent Robinson.

            You have well and truly missed the point of my post.

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            • #81
              I'm still of the opinion that unless we make the preliminary final the season is a failure, remember at the start of the year I think it was Penrith and then us as the favourites for the premiership, it is a HUGE problem that we are currently 10th and trying to claw our way into the finals.

              I'd say Robbo should be relieved of his job if we are out in the first round, second round I'd give him a last warning for next year, preliminary final would be acceptable and he would prove himself.

              As for who replaces him, here is a list of ALL coaches who you could have replace him either this year or next:

              Active:

              Adam O'Brien - Hasn't done a bad job with the Knights, will have made finals 3/4 seasons he's been coach at, he's been at the club before also

              Craig Bellamy - Highly unlikely, seems like a Storm lifer.

              Jason Demetriou - Pretty impressive coaching resume, has a 56% win record in his 50 NRL games as coach and got Souffs to a prelim last season, has been part of successful teams as an attacking coach also.

              Justin Holbrook - We've already got him and he's proven that with a good squad he can do quite a bit, also knows the club quite well.

              Ryan Carr - Probably would be better suited as an assistant or NSW Cup coach at best but he IS available.

              Inactive in NRL:

              Brad Fittler - I'd hate this but I reckon he loses the NSW coaching job soon and we'd probably be interested in a "Legend returns" story. I wouldn't want this though.

              Geoff Toovey - Would be weird seeing him at the Roosters but he's had a good run as coach in the past and is available.

              Michael Maguire - Winning record everywhere he's gone except the Tigers who I think are missing him, not sure he'd fit the Roosters but he is available...

              Nathan Brown - The experts say he's better as an assistant but he's available

              ---

              This isn't taking into account all of the available NSW Cup coaches or Super League coaches either, these are the more high profile ones or the ones in the NRL currently. If Robbo beats out all of those people then so be it but personally I'd take a punt on the likes of an Adam O'Brien, Demetriou or Holbrook over an underperforming Robbo who has us at 10th going into the last round.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by MKCS View Post
                I'm still of the opinion that unless we make the preliminary final the season is a failure, remember at the start of the year I think it was Penrith and then us as the favourites for the premiership, it is a HUGE problem that we are currently 10th and trying to claw our way into the finals.

                I'd say Robbo should be relieved of his job if we are out in the first round, second round I'd give him a last warning for next year, preliminary final would be acceptable and he would prove himself.

                As for who replaces him, here is a list of ALL coaches who you could have replace him either this year or next:

                Active:

                Adam O'Brien - Hasn't done a bad job with the Knights, will have made finals 3/4 seasons he's been coach at, he's been at the club before also

                Craig Bellamy - Highly unlikely, seems like a Storm lifer.

                Jason Demetriou - Pretty impressive coaching resume, has a 56% win record in his 50 NRL games as coach and got Souffs to a prelim last season, has been part of successful teams as an attacking coach also.

                Justin Holbrook - We've already got him and he's proven that with a good squad he can do quite a bit, also knows the club quite well.

                Ryan Carr - Probably would be better suited as an assistant or NSW Cup coach at best but he IS available.

                Inactive in NRL:

                Brad Fittler - I'd hate this but I reckon he loses the NSW coaching job soon and we'd probably be interested in a "Legend returns" story. I wouldn't want this though.

                Geoff Toovey - Would be weird seeing him at the Roosters but he's had a good run as coach in the past and is available.

                Michael Maguire - Winning record everywhere he's gone except the Tigers who I think are missing him, not sure he'd fit the Roosters but he is available...

                Nathan Brown - The experts say he's better as an assistant but he's available

                ---

                This isn't taking into account all of the available NSW Cup coaches or Super League coaches either, these are the more high profile ones or the ones in the NRL currently. If Robbo beats out all of those people then so be it but personally I'd take a punt on the likes of an Adam O'Brien, Demetriou or Holbrook over an underperforming Robbo who has us at 10th going into the last round.


                Adam O'Brien - The Knights have been outside the 8 almost the entire time OBrien has been coached. They've only just come good. Although he deserves credit for that, you have a very short term memory.

                Craig Bellamy - Will never happen.

                Jason Demetriou - really? Look at the basket case over at Redfern! Has underperformed with the roster he has had since taking over from Bennett.

                Justin Holbrook - Never took the Titans anywhere. A 9th, an 8th and a 13th.

                Ryan Carr - Unproven.

                Inactive in NRL:

                Brad Fittler - LOL!

                Geoff Toovey - The only one on your list i'm in favour of considering.

                Michael Maguire - Perhaps.

                Nathan Brown - LOL! career win % of 49%? No thanks

                Let's get real. Robbo is the best option available. You're all spoilt because you're used to us winning the comp or going deep into the finals every damn year.
                That is not sustainable, even for the best coaches. You are going to drop a couple.
                Also - just because News Ltd say we are favourites at the start of the season (and every other mind numbing RL commentator parrots it) does not mean it was ever true.

                The best coaches in the NRL currently are:

                TOP TIER
                Bellamy
                Robbo
                Cleary
                Bennett

                SECOND TIER
                Hasler
                Walters
                Stuart

                DOING WELL AT THE MOMENT, BUT UNPROVEN and JURY IS OUT
                Fitzy
                Webster
                O'Brien

                BOG AVERAGE
                Demitriou
                Arthur

                VERY POOR
                Seibold
                Cialdo
                Carr
                Last edited by Steakface; 08-31-2023, 04:02 AM.

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                • #83
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                  • #84
                    Yes, Robbo is partly to blame, for not playing Suaalii on right wing all season.

                    Then we have the players, some of whom kept getting suspended.
                    And players who can't even play the ball properly. And can't pass and catch the ball without dropping it.
                    Our mistake rate in games has been horrific all year.
                    Then there all the injuries...and Gus' health issue...all preventing us from playing our best.

                    It has been a learning year...next year will be better.
                    We're still a big prop and big back rower short...ones who can bust tackles....and defend well.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by MKCS View Post
                      I'm still of the opinion that unless we make the preliminary final the season is a failure, remember at the start of the year I think it was Penrith and then us as the favourites for the premiership, it is a HUGE problem that we are currently 10th and trying to claw our way into the finals.

                      I'd say Robbo should be relieved of his job if we are out in the first round, second round I'd give him a last warning for next year, preliminary final would be acceptable and he would prove himself.

                      As for who replaces him, here is a list of ALL coaches who you could have replace him either this year or next:

                      Active:

                      Adam O'Brien - Hasn't done a bad job with the Knights, will have made finals 3/4 seasons he's been coach at, he's been at the club before also

                      Craig Bellamy - Highly unlikely, seems like a Storm lifer.

                      Jason Demetriou - Pretty impressive coaching resume, has a 56% win record in his 50 NRL games as coach and got Souffs to a prelim last season, has been part of successful teams as an attacking coach also.

                      Justin Holbrook - We've already got him and he's proven that with a good squad he can do quite a bit, also knows the club quite well.

                      Ryan Carr - Probably would be better suited as an assistant or NSW Cup coach at best but he IS available.

                      Inactive in NRL:

                      Brad Fittler - I'd hate this but I reckon he loses the NSW coaching job soon and we'd probably be interested in a "Legend returns" story. I wouldn't want this though.

                      Geoff Toovey - Would be weird seeing him at the Roosters but he's had a good run as coach in the past and is available.

                      Michael Maguire - Winning record everywhere he's gone except the Tigers who I think are missing him, not sure he'd fit the Roosters but he is available...

                      Nathan Brown - The experts say he's better as an assistant but he's available

                      ---

                      This isn't taking into account all of the available NSW Cup coaches or Super League coaches either, these are the more high profile ones or the ones in the NRL currently. If Robbo beats out all of those people then so be it but personally I'd take a punt on the likes of an Adam O'Brien, Demetriou or Holbrook over an underperforming Robbo who has us at 10th going into the last round.
                      Anyone who has us as second favourite for the premiership this year was dreamin', misguided, been drinking too much strong liquor.
                      The Broncos, Storm, Eels, would've been in front of us.
                      We had/have 'rookies' everywehere...Walker is still learning, Suaalii the same, we were short a left centre until Billy returned...etc.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by bondi.boy View Post

                        Eels, would've been in front of us.
                        We had/have 'rookies' everywehere...Walker is still learning, Suaalii the same, we were short a left centre until Billy returned...etc.
                        Well Parra fell away. Souffs who mid year were down as favourites have crashed deluxe and Saullii (who I've paid out on) really stood up last week when we need him to.

                        Forget Robbo on Friday, if the boys want it enough we could and should give Souffs an early Mad Monday.

                        We got the side and maybe not having JWH is a kinda bonus because he's to easy to bite when they slag him off. We've hit some good form and playing decent. I just don't want to see us play catch up or get dragged to a war with sin bins, penalties etc.....let Souffs do that and we benefit.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by MKCS View Post
                          I'm still of the opinion that unless we make the preliminary final the season is a failure, remember at the start of the year I think it was Penrith and then us as the favourites for the premiership, it is a HUGE problem that we are currently 10th and trying to claw our way into the finals.

                          I'd say Robbo should be relieved of his job if we are out in the first round, second round I'd give him a last warning for next year, preliminary final would be acceptable and he would prove himself.

                          As for who replaces him, here is a list of ALL coaches who you could have replace him either this year or next:

                          Active:

                          Adam O'Brien - Hasn't done a bad job with the Knights, will have made finals 3/4 seasons he's been coach at, he's been at the club before also

                          Craig Bellamy - Highly unlikely, seems like a Storm lifer.

                          Jason Demetriou - Pretty impressive coaching resume, has a 56% win record in his 50 NRL games as coach and got Souffs to a prelim last season, has been part of successful teams as an attacking coach also.

                          Justin Holbrook - We've already got him and he's proven that with a good squad he can do quite a bit, also knows the club quite well.

                          Ryan Carr - Probably would be better suited as an assistant or NSW Cup coach at best but he IS available.

                          Inactive in NRL:

                          Brad Fittler - I'd hate this but I reckon he loses the NSW coaching job soon and we'd probably be interested in a "Legend returns" story. I wouldn't want this though.

                          Geoff Toovey - Would be weird seeing him at the Roosters but he's had a good run as coach in the past and is available.

                          Michael Maguire - Winning record everywhere he's gone except the Tigers who I think are missing him, not sure he'd fit the Roosters but he is available...

                          Nathan Brown - The experts say he's better as an assistant but he's available

                          ---

                          This isn't taking into account all of the available NSW Cup coaches or Super League coaches either, these are the more high profile ones or the ones in the NRL currently. If Robbo beats out all of those people then so be it but personally I'd take a punt on the likes of an Adam O'Brien, Demetriou or Holbrook over an underperforming Robbo who has us at 10th going into the last round.
                          Demetriou???? What have you been smoking??

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Steakface View Post



                            Adam O'Brien - The Knights have been outside the 8 almost the entire time OBrien has been coached. They've only just come good. Although he deserves credit for that, you have a very short term memory.

                            Craig Bellamy - Will never happen.

                            Jason Demetriou - really? Look at the basket case over at Redfern! Has underperformed with the roster he has had since taking over from Bennett.

                            Justin Holbrook - Never took the Titans anywhere. A 9th, an 8th and a 13th.

                            Ryan Carr - Unproven.

                            Inactive in NRL:

                            Brad Fittler - LOL!

                            Geoff Toovey - The only one on your list i'm in favour of considering.

                            Michael Maguire - Perhaps.

                            Nathan Brown - LOL! career win % of 49%? No thanks

                            Let's get real. Robbo is the best option available. You're all spoilt because you're used to us winning the comp or going deep into the finals every damn year.
                            That is not sustainable, even for the best coaches. You are going to drop a couple.
                            Also - just because News Ltd say we are favourites at the start of the season (and every other mind numbing RL commentator parrots it) does not mean it was ever true.

                            The best coaches in the NRL currently are:

                            TOP TIER
                            Bellamy
                            Robbo
                            Cleary
                            Bennett

                            SECOND TIER
                            Hasler
                            Walters
                            Stuart

                            DOING WELL AT THE MOMENT, BUT UNPROVEN and JURY IS OUT
                            Fitzy
                            Webster
                            O'Brien

                            BOG AVERAGE
                            Demitriou
                            Arthur

                            VERY POOR
                            Seibold
                            Cialdo
                            Carr
                            Bit harsh on Carr, I don’t think this stint as an interim coach of the dragons is something you can really judge. That side was never going to win much regardless of who coaches it.
                            EASTS TO WIN!

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Eggspert View Post

                              What have you seen the last 2yrs to have that confidence in him?

                              You love giving Sammy Walker a harder time than the actual bloke in charge.
                              Sally doesn’t actually support all of our players, just has an unhealthy obsession with Hutchinson and Robinson.

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                              • #90
                                Toovey is a Manly man. Will fail at the GC imo. Would never work out at Easts.

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