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    This is an extract from an article written by Phil Gould which appeared in the SMH on March 9, 2008.
    The reason I hate Souffs, it has always grated on my nerves the way they think they are superior to all.




    Local Sydney league boundaries were based on local government boundaries when clubs were formed back in the early 20th century. Souths' boundaries were based on the municipalities of Redfern, Botany, Alexandria, Mascot and Waterloo, while the Roosters' boundaries were those of the eastern municipalities of Paddington, Woollahra, Vaucluse, Randwick and Waverley.

    "Many of these councils have since amalgamated, as demographic changes affected the inner and eastern suburbs of Sydney. Randwick Council has a western boundary of Anzac Parade and incorporates all those eastern suburbs east of Anzac Parade, and these suburbs like Randwick, Coogee and Maroubra were all part of the Roosters' territory from 1908 to 1929. Does anyone living in those suburbs then or now not claim to live in the eastern suburbs?

    "But in 1929 a number of clubs led by Souths and Balmain helped change the NSWRL constitution so that instead of needing 75 per cent [of the vote] to remove a team from the competition, only 50 per cent was needed. Once the constitution was changed, Balmain, with Souths' help, moved to kick foundation club Glebe from the competition. Roosters fans can't miss the irony in this, given the events 70 years later.

    "Soon after, these same clubs changed the constitution back, to protect themselves from future expulsion, so 75 per cent of the vote was again required to remove a club from the then NSWRL. As part of the deal to remove Glebe, Balmain took over Glebe's territory and Souths annexed that part of the Roosters territory east of Anzac Parade and south of Alison Road. The Roosters were as a result left without much of their natural territory, and a large future source of young talent. This was very relevant because for many years you needed to reside within your team's boundaries to play for that club.

    "Souths won seven of their 20 premierships with a significant part of the Roosters' territory, while the residential rule was in place. The two players in recent years that Souths have so resented playing for the Roosters, Craig Wing and Braith Anasta, due to their alleged status as Souths juniors, did in fact play their junior football for clubs in the eastern suburbs, which was original Roosters territory, and should still be.

    "Again in 1983 after Newtown were excluded from the competition, Souths were again all over the carcass of another foundation club, moving swiftly to grab Newtown's territory and denying the Roosters' attempts to reclaim its former territory as part of a much needed realignment of boundaries.

    "Does anybody remember Souths expressing any opposition to the NSWRL's unsuccessful move to exclude Wests from the competition in the early '80s or to Newtown's exclusion in 1983?

    "The fact is that Souths, like many clubs with such a long history, have plenty of skeletons in the closet, and when given the power and opportunity, have acted ruthlessly in their own self-interest without any regard to the wellbeing of other traditional clubs or the game itself.

    "As a result, their continual whingeing and rewriting of history has grated on many league supporters, but, in particular, those of the one club that feels it has just as much right to celebrate its history as any other."

    Wow! Some feuds have a long history!

  • #2
    Great article, I remember reading it at the time

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    • #3
      I’m glad they’re in the comp otherwise the Chookpen would be dead.

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      • #4
        I've never hated Souths like I've hated Manly for 40 years after what Robert Fulton did to the Roosters by taking all those players with him. Being betrayed by someone you trust is a worse crime than being hated by someone you wouldn't piss on if they were on fire.

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        • #5
          Read up on the 1909 premiership if you want more ammunition for your Souths hatred

          From NRL.COM …

          “Souths versus Balmain is the Paradise Lost of rugby league feuds. It occurred in 1909 when the Rabbitohs were awarded the grand final win by forfeit from the Watersiders, as they were known back then.

          The decider was originally scheduled as a curtain-raiser for a Wallabies against Kangaroos exhibition match however, Balmain believed a game of such importance should be a main event.

          Here is where it gets murky - some say both teams agreed to reschedule or not play on the proposed date, but on the day the match was originally due to be played Souths turned up and Balmain didn’t take the field. Souths kicked off, picked up the ball, scored a try and were awarded the chocolates.

          One hundred years after the event, Balmain great Benny Elias still wouldn’t let it go, telling the Sydney Morning Herald half-seriously in 2009: "It should be taken away. People take gold medals away from Olympians who cheat - I would say this is on par. It's clearly stated in the records they both agreed not to turn up - one team did and they won the premiership."
          Last edited by Waylander; 09-05-2023, 03:56 PM.

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          • #6
            This would be up there to . Been at it since 1909 the grubs

            The Grand Final that never was - Rugby League Monthly

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            • #7
              Nice summary of historic events. I still find it weird how Randwick's LGA is considered a Souffs heartland. IMO part of Souffs' problem is that it isn't really a defined part of Sydney.

              IMO they should be called the Redfern Rabbitohs and Redfern oval should be approved for their usage. It's a professional game now anyway... I don't give a fark which U10's club somebody played for. It just p!sses me off seeing a club that's got its own suburb/stadium trolling us by claiming our territory instead of bettering their own stadium for usage and inviting people to Redfern for games. Stupid!

              As somebody who grew up in Paddington (the Darlo / Surry Hills end) I had to choose. Easts were USING ES Marks where I trained (which is what... Kensington?) so I had that attachment. Oh yeah and Athletics East had their club there, so it all made sense!!!

              Souffs seem to like claiming shyte and talking shyte rather than putting it to good use.
              Last edited by ism22; 09-05-2023, 04:06 PM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Johnny73 View Post
                I've never hated Souths like I've hated Manly for 40 years after what Robert Fulton did to the Roosters by taking all those players with him. Being betrayed by someone you trust is a worse crime than being hated by someone you wouldn't piss on if they were on fire.
                I was borderline gonna cheer Soufffs over Brisbane if they met in a final. Bronx fans are bloody insufferable. It would be unreal if we got a chance to straight set them to make up for the 98 prelim I’m still dirty about

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                • #9
                  ron coote lived east of anzac pde and was part of the stolen generation

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                  • #10
                    They are SCUM
                    EASTS TO WIN!

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                    • #11
                      I remember this.

                      Fark Souffs!

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                      • #12
                        Souffs are out for the season!

                        That's a happy story

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by zac View Post
                          ron coote lived east of anzac pde and was part of the stolen generation
                          Zac your comment is seriously funny. It cracked me up.

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                          • #14
                            We knocked those tools out. END OF STORY.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by The Lip View Post
                              Souffs are out for the season!

                              That's a happy story
                              And Mickey is still filthy about it.
                              FVCK CANCER

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