What a joke!

[King Salvo]

Fines get deducted from the clubs monthly grant, the club then takes it from the players monthly contract payment....should they choose to do so of course.

Players can claim it as a tax deduction as well as any legal fees they pay for defending these charges at the judiciary.

The ATO example for this is interesting

Example: deduction for fine

Jared is a professional rugby league player. During a game, he is put on report and later fined $1,500 for a high tackle. Jared can claim a deduction for the fine. The fine was issued for on-field conduct and results from his performance as a player.

[ism22]

So no Billy Smith for our biggest game of the season. Jaw surgery, surgeons fee of approximately $30k. Then an uncomfortable and compromising recovery period and the Sharks player that broke his jaw is fined $1800 and can play round 1 next season. Seems fair. FMD the system is flawed!

Yep. And then JWH gets suspended for ~7 weeks despite the fact he's never maliciously hurt anybody. Rather, the refs take EVERY chance they can get to slow down his contact, over-scrutinise whether it fits the technical definition of the rules and throw the book at him.

Rules are definitely rules. However since they try to mimic the criminal justice system with 'charges' and all... it kinda ends up like that. For example for some relatively common offences the cops can choose to give you a warning or they can cuff you and parade you all the way down the road to their cop car. They can also choose to target your neighbourhood /demographic.

I dunno! I just think that while some of our players (e.g. JWH, Rads, Brown...etc) would benefit from better on-field behaviour, there's some clubs/players out there that aren't as perfect as the charge sheets would suggest!

[Qld Chook]

This is a way better system than the previous system where loadings and carry over points were applied

It depends on the grade and previous offences in the category the player is charged plus player records are reset on a rolling 12-month period since their last offence.

• Wade Graham (Finals Week 1, $1800 fine – Careless High Tackle)
• Briton Nikora (Finals Week 1, $1800 fine – Dangerous Contact)

Previous offences

• Wade Graham was charged and suspended for 4 matches (rounds 2 to 5) for a wreckless high tackle
• Briton Nikora was charged and fined for a grade 1 shoulder charge in round 1

https://www.nrl.com/operations/the-game/judiciary-code/

I notice that Jack Wighton is re-considering his representative retirement, which is iffy since he has been referred directly to the judiciary for the biting allegation.

The Broncos NRLW player was sent off and suspended for 2 weeks for biting Roosters player Jayme Fressard, so going by that, Wighton, if found guilty, would be looking at 5 to 6 weeks.

This has got to be a piss take surely..

[Qld Chook]

Just to kick us while we are down I see Buzz said Madge has already decided JWH won’t be considered for NZ just as I suspected (Foxsports). So he will miss the opening 3-4 games next year instead of potentially being able to play round 1.

[Inflictor]

The best joke will be tomorrow night when chompy gets let off. Plenty media on his side. Gamble not prepared to give a statement. With the lack of evidence we will stick to the on-field decision of no bite and play the ball. Enjoy your trip to Vegas.

FFS

[Guest]

The best joke will be tomorrow night when chompy gets let off. Plenty media on his side. Gamble not prepared to give a statement. With the lack of evidence we will stick to the on-field decision of no bite and play the ball. Enjoy your trip to Vegas.

FFS

Sorry to rave on about Tallis again...

Not only did he defend Jack for the bite with your typical 'its not his go' argument and actually bit his own fist on NRL 360 as 'evidence' , but he was also true to form when they showed Hazleton belting Billy in the jaw.

Anasta and Read watched the footage of direct shoulder contact to head with force, and asked the question - if it was Radley or JWH making the tackle instead, would they be binned?

Obvious answer was yes, so Tallis retorted with "...but how many times have they done it?" Brent Read said "that shouldn't matter" and then Tallis gave a bit of an eye roll.

Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but convictions from prior matches arent supposed to be taken into account during any on-field deliberations around penalties, sin bins etc.

They are absolutely a factor to take into consideration post-match during MRC hearings, judiciary, etc , but you can't determine whether to bin someone for a high shot during a match based on prior rep.

So, that makes Gordon's argument flawed. On-field punishment of an incident should be determined without any consideration given to priors, "its not his go", and everything else. Black and white, based on the facts. Is the act of direct, forceful shoulder contact to the head a sin bin / send off offence? I would say yes, especially when we know it would have happened if it was JWH or Rads.

[Kelby]

I noticed during our last game; Sutton's favourite word was Lindsey.

[Kelby]

The best joke will be tomorrow night when chompy gets let off. Plenty media on his side. Gamble not prepared to give a statement. With the lack of evidence we will stick to the on-field decision of no bite and play the ball. Enjoy your trip to Vegas.

FFS

He is a souffs player now. Was always going to get to Vegas.


I saw an interview with Dom Young last night, and he said it was so deliberate and obvious that Gamble got bitten and that the incident brought the crowd back into the game and they rallied for a great comeback.

[NorfolkStreetKid]

Just to kick us while we are down I see Buzz said Madge has already decided JWH won’t be considered for NZ just as I suspected (Foxsports). So he will miss the opening 3-4 games next year instead of potentially being able to play round 1.

I saw this, and I agree it's a kick in the guts for us. Jared would obviously have made that team if he wasn't suspended, so he should be named and could have used those games against his suspension.
I think he's done enough for NZ Rugby League for them to have selected him, it would cost them nothing.
Maguire has always come across to me as a cnut.

[The Lip]

This is a way better system than the previous system where loadings and carry over points were applied

It depends on the grade and previous offences in the category the player is charged plus player records are reset on a rolling 12-month period since their last offence.

• Wade Graham (Finals Week 1, $1800 fine – Careless High Tackle)
• Briton Nikora (Finals Week 1, $1800 fine – Dangerous Contact)

Previous offences

• Wade Graham was charged and suspended for 4 matches (rounds 2 to 5) for a wreckless high tackle
• Briton Nikora was charged and fined for a grade 1 shoulder charge in round 1

https://www.nrl.com/operations/the-game/judiciary-code/

I notice that Jack Wighton is re-considering his representative retirement, which is iffy since he has been referred directly to the judiciary for the biting allegation.

The Broncos NRLW player was sent off and suspended for 2 weeks for biting Roosters player Jayme Fressard, so going by that, Wighton, if found guilty, would be looking at 5 to 6 weeks.

Surely the Australian selectors won't select him if he does making them party to this obvious loophole tactic to get Jack available for round 1 next year. I can't see it happening. If he does go this route they won't pick him anyway.

[The Lip]

Sorry to rave on about Tallis again...

Not only did he defend Jack for the bite with your typical 'its not his go' argument and actually bit his own fist on NRL 360 as 'evidence' , but he was also true to form when they showed Hazleton belting Billy in the jaw.

Anasta and Read watched the footage of direct shoulder contact to head with force, and asked the question - if it was Radley or JWH making the tackle instead, would they be binned?

Obvious answer was yes, so Tallis retorted with "...but how many times have they done it?" Brent Read said "that shouldn't matter" and then Tallis gave a bit of an eye roll.

Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but convictions from prior matches arent supposed to be taken into account during any on-field deliberations around penalties, sin bins etc.

They are absolutely a factor to take into consideration post-match during MRC hearings, judiciary, etc , but you can't determine whether to bin someone for a high shot during a match based on prior rep.

So, that makes Gordon's argument flawed. On-field punishment of an incident should be determined without any consideration given to priors, "its not his go", and everything else. Black and white, based on the facts. Is the act of direct, forceful shoulder contact to the head a sin bin / send off offence? I would say yes, especially when we know it would have happened if it was JWH or Rads.

Close to all of Gordon's arguments are flawed. He only speaks out of emotion and none of logic - and his emotion toward us is one of hate and jealousy.

[The Lip]

I noticed during our last game; Sutton's favourite word was Lindsey.

That's a nice change up from him - it's normally Jared Mooooove

sorry that might be Klown.

[Kelby]

I saw this, and I agree it's a kick in the guts for us. Jared would obviously have made that team if he wasn't suspended, so he should be named and could have used those games against his suspension.
I think he's done enough for NZ Rugby League for them to have selected him, it would cost them nothing.
Maguire has always come across to me as a cnut.

Pay back.

He was a souffs coach and hates the roosters.

[HunchoRooster]

I'm not really sure what punishment people would like Wade Graham to get? He is retired so I'm not sure why we expected him to cop a multi-week suspension. Maybe the fine could've been a bit higher but we aren't his accountant so who really cares?

The injustice was that he wasn't sent from the field for at least 10mins for the hit on JS on Saturday night. Once he got away with it and was allowed to stay on the park, it didn't really matter to us what the retrospective punishment was.

[HunchoRooster]

As far as Wighton goes, if Simple Jack gets off, then we know the system is crooked. Getting the Souffs treatment already. He should've been sent off but yet again Ash Klown failed to control a game of finals footy.