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  • First try by Manly where Tom T takes out Teddy

    A number of people thought that was a dodgy decision. It certainly looked to me as if Tom Turbo just backed into Teddy to impede his catch. He didn't contest the bomb, just got in the way.

    Well, thankfully, Graham Annesley has confirmed that what Turbo did was completely fine by him. The reason he gave was that what the referees are looking for are "cynical" attempts to impede the catcher.

    Apparently, after close inspection of the video footage from multiple angles, no signs of cynicism were detected.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Spirit of 66 View Post
    A number of people thought that was a dodgy decision. It certainly looked to me as if Tom Turbo just backed into Teddy to impede his catch. He didn't contest the bomb, just got in the way.

    Well, thankfully, Graham Annesley has confirmed that what Turbo did was completely fine by him. The reason he gave was that what the referees are looking for are "cynical" attempts to impede the catcher.

    Apparently, after close inspection of the video footage from multiple angles, no signs of cynicism were detected.
    And yet we all know that the NRL and referees are highly skilled in the dark arts of mind reading and mesmerism.
    1985: 1 try vs Parramatta, 1 try vs Manly, 1 try vs Wests, 2 tries vs Souffs
    1986: 2 tries vs Illawarra, 1 try vs Balmain, 2 tries vs Norths.

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    • #3
      Now now, that's very cynical of you 66.

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      • #4
        Turbo got to the spot first, he doesn't need to move.

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        • #5
          5 minutes and 18 seconds of doublespeak nonsense.

          https://www.nrl.com/news/2024/03/18/...d-air-contest/

          He actually believes Trbjevic was going for the ball, even though he didn't jump one inch.

          In one breath he says he's fine with the decision not to penalize, then warns teams against having players in the position that Trbyevic was.

          A gibberer who is totally out of his depth in the role.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Chookies74 View Post
            Turbo got to the spot first, he doesn't need to move.
            This is not applied to any other interpretation such as a blocker on a field goal attemp, an escort on a kick chance on a decoy runner.

            Simply getting to the position first is not enough, the NRL specifically said you must be competing for the ball and the dead give away is that Turbo never jumps and never stretches his arms out to attempt to catch the ball.

            When is the last time you saw a player catch a contested ball on the try line in their lap witbout having to jump and stretch for it? Turbo knew exactly what he was doing and to be fair to him he's outplayed the refs and the refs boss.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Chookies74 View Post
              Turbo got to the spot first, he doesn't need to move.
              Turbo had no idea where the ball was. He used Teddy as a guide and in doing so impeded Teddy's judgement. This is called tunnelling and is illegal. Turbo would make a great poker player.

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              • #8
                One can say Turbo wasn't going for the ball but made the impression he was. I think he had his arms in some sort of position to make it look like he was going for the ball, but as above, he didn't jump for the ball.

                The blocker for the field goal and the down-town blocker are other new rules that will be exploited. All the defending players have to do is run into one of these blockers and fall to the ground to receive a penalty.

                The NRL get themselves into a pickle with these new rules: the decoy runner, inside/outside shoulder bunkum, and the 7-tackle restart for instance

                The seven-tackle restart came about as a result of teams kicking the ball dead to set their defence against certain teams. No way should it be a seven-tackle restart when an attacking player loses the ball or knocks on in goal when attempting to score a try.

                People could argue the same about missed field goal attempts and in-goal grubber kicks that go dead in goal. The defending team receives a 7-tackle restart as well for these when all know the attacking team are not deliberately trying to kick the ball dead in any of these circumstances to set their defence.

                That decoy runner/block play is rubbish and one of the worst rules introduced as a result of coaches whinging that it was too hard to score points closely followed by dominant and surrender tackles. In the old days, a player would be penalised for a voluntary tackle that they now call surrender tackles.

                Last edited by King Salvo; 03-19-2024, 03:44 PM. Reason: added extra comments

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                • #9
                  He DID have a very solemn and earnest look on his face. Now we know the rules.

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                  • #10
                    Inconsistency AGAIN which works against us.
                    Even the commentators indicated it was a penalty based on recent amended rules changes.

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                    • #11
                      I had to look at it a few times, I think it was touch and go, turbo played it well, he seemed to stretch his arms, I think Radley got in teddy’s way more.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by milanja View Post
                        I had to look at it a few times, I think it was touch and go, turbo played it well, he seemed to stretch his arms, I think Radley got in teddy’s way more.
                        I feel the same, if turbo was going for the ball or not I don't know but he gave the impression he was trying to catch it even though he didn't leave the ground.
                        Rads seem to cause more of issue.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post

                          This is not applied to any other interpretation such as a blocker on a field goal attemp, an escort on a kick chance on a decoy runner.

                          Simply getting to the position first is not enough, the NRL specifically said you must be competing for the ball and the dead give away is that Turbo never jumps and never stretches his arms out to attempt to catch the ball.

                          When is the last time you saw a player catch a contested ball on the try line in their lap witbout having to jump and stretch for it? Turbo knew exactly what he was doing and to be fair to him he's outplayed the refs and the refs boss.
                          Yes. It was never a try and I knew Anneresly would come out today with some half baked rubbish to say it was a correct call. Watch the same thing happen again and be called a penalty. Spin 101 at work. Embarrassing

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by theGman View Post
                            Inconsistency AGAIN which works against us.
                            Even the commentators indicated it was a penalty based on recent amended rules changes.
                            It’s been a penalty for a while now.

                            Just against us.
                            FVCK CANCER

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                            • #15
                              It was a shyte call and later in the game Manly got a try off a piggy-back penalty when we were accused of something of this nature (one of the Manly players bumped into Walker while trying to take a catch, I think? Forget who it was but it was stupid).

                              End of the day we were still poor and I'm not gonna blame this for the outcome. It's a shyte rule that leaves a bitter taste when they fark it up though!!!

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