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    There's always a lot of talk about Ref's on the Pen. I thought I'd have a look at at the stats and see what the real story is.This is the more recent refs, with a qualifying figure of at least 10 Roosters games. A few surprises amongst this lot, but I was more than a little stunned when I saw our record under the current Referee's boss. A very interesting 'statistical anomaly' given our overall record win percentage is 53.6%.

    Referee Games W L D Win %
    ANNESLEY, Graham 31 12 19 38.70%
    ARCHER, Tony 36 20 16 55.60%
    ATKINS, Grant 43 26 17 60.50%
    BADGER, Gavin 42 17 25 40.50%
    BUTLER, Chris 10 7 3 70.00%
    CECCHIN, Matt 51 35 16 68.60%
    CLARK, Steve 39 18 20 1 46.20%
    CUMMINS, Ben 58 32 26 55.20%
    DE LAS HERAS, Tony 17 4 13 23.50%
    DEVCICH, Adam 18 7 11 38.90%

    GEE, Adam 33 22 11 66.70%
    HAMPSTEAD, Sean 39 21 17 1 53.80%
    HARRIGAN, Bill 52 32 20 61.50%
    HARTLEY, Greg 29 16 12 1 55.20%
    HAYNE, Shayne 41 25 15 1 61.00%
    JAMES, Chris 23 12 10 1 52.20%
    KLEIN, Ashley 63 37 26 58.70%
    McCALLUM, Greg 20 7 13 35.00%
    MANDER, Tim 45 23 21 1 51.10%
    MAXWELL, Jared 35 15 19 1 42.90%
    PERENARA, Henry 23 13 10 56.50%
    SHORTALL, Alan 32 20 12 62.50%
    SIMPKINS, Paul 38 23 15 60.50%
    STONE, Mick 27 12 13 2 44.40%
    SUTTON, Chris 13 11 2 84.60%
    SUTTON, Gerard 57 32 25 56.10%

    WARD, Chris 17 7 9 1 41.20%
    WARD, Eddie 26 13 12 1 50.00%
    WEST, Graeme 20 12 8 60.00%

    (Sorry the formatting is crap. I spent ages, and it looked fine before I hit the 'Post' button.)

  • #2
    to be fair annesley reffed the time between our golden eras but even so. the one i like is matt cecchin - after a shaky start he was a very good ref and us having a good record under him says a bit

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Waylander View Post
      There's always a lot of talk about Ref's on the Pen. I thought I'd have a look at at the stats and see what the real story is.This is the more recent refs, with a qualifying figure of at least 10 Roosters games. A few surprises amongst this lot, but I was more than a little stunned when I saw our record under the current Referee's boss. A very interesting 'statistical anomaly' given our overall record win percentage is 53.6%.

      Referee Games W L D Win %
      ANNESLEY, Graham 31 12 19 38.70%
      ARCHER, Tony 36 20 16 55.60%
      ATKINS, Grant 43 26 17 60.50%
      BADGER, Gavin 42 17 25 40.50%
      BUTLER, Chris 10 7 3 70.00%
      CECCHIN, Matt 51 35 16 68.60%
      CLARK, Steve 39 18 20 1 46.20%
      CUMMINS, Ben 58 32 26 55.20%
      DE LAS HERAS, Tony 17 4 13 23.50%
      DEVCICH, Adam 18 7 11 38.90%

      GEE, Adam 33 22 11 66.70%
      HAMPSTEAD, Sean 39 21 17 1 53.80%
      HARRIGAN, Bill 52 32 20 61.50%
      HARTLEY, Greg 29 16 12 1 55.20%
      HAYNE, Shayne 41 25 15 1 61.00%
      JAMES, Chris 23 12 10 1 52.20%
      KLEIN, Ashley 63 37 26 58.70%
      McCALLUM, Greg 20 7 13 35.00%
      MANDER, Tim 45 23 21 1 51.10%
      MAXWELL, Jared 35 15 19 1 42.90%
      PERENARA, Henry 23 13 10 56.50%
      SHORTALL, Alan 32 20 12 62.50%
      SIMPKINS, Paul 38 23 15 60.50%
      STONE, Mick 27 12 13 2 44.40%
      SUTTON, Chris 13 11 2 84.60%
      SUTTON, Gerard 57 32 25 56.10%

      WARD, Chris 17 7 9 1 41.20%
      WARD, Eddie 26 13 12 1 50.00%
      WEST, Graeme 20 12 8 60.00%

      (Sorry the formatting is crap. I spent ages, and it looked fine before I hit the 'Post' button.)
      Nice work and thanks for putting this together Waylander.

      I get the feeling that after last week's debacle decision on our "no-try", that the refs could be slightly kinder to us this week ...

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      • #4
        Great research Waylander. The % rate with KKKlown in charge astounds me though.

        Do you know if Chris and Gerard Sutton and Chris and Eddie Ward are related?
        1985: 1 try vs Parramatta, 1 try vs Manly, 1 try vs Wests, 2 tries vs Souffs
        1986: 2 tries vs Illawarra, 1 try vs Balmain, 2 tries vs Norths.

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        • #5
          Good work.
          There must be a stat out there for every team somewhere.
          I would like to know what a ratio is against other teams, we might have a 70% win ratio with X ref but that may drop to 25% against certain teams.
          Pretty sure the bookies would have those stats tucked away.

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          • #6
            I get what you've done and appreciate the work but if you apply the same stats then you'd say the refs have been against the Tigers the last 3 years because of their low win rate.
            We have been a good team the last decade despite the refs.
            Have you got a stat on the penalty/6again counts for the same refs?
            I bet Les' left nut the stats would look uglier than those stats.

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            • #7
              Interesting stats. I hope we get that young up and comer Greg Hartley soon. He shows plenty of promise.

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              • #8
                Reading that list I hated all of them. Perhaps unfairly.

                I would have happily murdered Steve Clarke when I was a young man.

                But a 46.2% win ratio under that emotion-less asshole seems competitive after all.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Inflictor View Post
                  I get what you've done and appreciate the work but if you apply the same stats then you'd say the refs have been against the Tigers the last 3 years because of their low win rate.
                  We have been a good team the last decade despite the refs.
                  Have you got a stat on the penalty/6again counts for the same refs?
                  I bet Les' left nut the stats would look uglier than those stats.
                  One ball remaining..
                  #We Stand with ourJewish community#

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Ron Burgundy View Post
                    Interesting stats. I hope we get that young up and comer Greg Hartley soon. He shows plenty of promise.
                    my favourite hollywood moment was a game easts v i think manly at the scg and stumpy stevens put up a bomb which happened to go between the posts and before it lands hollywood is blowing the whistle with his arm up and running back to halfway. he thought stumpy had drop kicked it and awarded the field goal

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Waylander View Post
                      There's always a lot of talk about Ref's on the Pen. I thought I'd have a look at at the stats and see what the real story is.This is the more recent refs, with a qualifying figure of at least 10 Roosters games. A few surprises amongst this lot, but I was more than a little stunned when I saw our record under the current Referee's boss. A very interesting 'statistical anomaly' given our overall record win percentage is 53.6%.

                      Referee Games W L D Win %
                      ANNESLEY, Graham 31 12 19 38.70%
                      ARCHER, Tony 36 20 16 55.60%
                      ATKINS, Grant 43 26 17 60.50%
                      BADGER, Gavin 42 17 25 40.50%
                      BUTLER, Chris 10 7 3 70.00%
                      CECCHIN, Matt 51 35 16 68.60%
                      CLARK, Steve 39 18 20 1 46.20%
                      CUMMINS, Ben 58 32 26 55.20%
                      DE LAS HERAS, Tony 17 4 13 23.50%
                      DEVCICH, Adam 18 7 11 38.90%

                      GEE, Adam 33 22 11 66.70%
                      HAMPSTEAD, Sean 39 21 17 1 53.80%
                      HARRIGAN, Bill 52 32 20 61.50%
                      HARTLEY, Greg 29 16 12 1 55.20%
                      HAYNE, Shayne 41 25 15 1 61.00%
                      JAMES, Chris 23 12 10 1 52.20%
                      KLEIN, Ashley 63 37 26 58.70%
                      McCALLUM, Greg 20 7 13 35.00%
                      MANDER, Tim 45 23 21 1 51.10%
                      MAXWELL, Jared 35 15 19 1 42.90%
                      PERENARA, Henry 23 13 10 56.50%
                      SHORTALL, Alan 32 20 12 62.50%
                      SIMPKINS, Paul 38 23 15 60.50%
                      STONE, Mick 27 12 13 2 44.40%
                      SUTTON, Chris 13 11 2 84.60%
                      SUTTON, Gerard 57 32 25 56.10%

                      WARD, Chris 17 7 9 1 41.20%
                      WARD, Eddie 26 13 12 1 50.00%
                      WEST, Graeme 20 12 8 60.00%

                      (Sorry the formatting is crap. I spent ages, and it looked fine before I hit the 'Post' button.)
                      My top 3 dislikes would be

                      1. Badger
                      2. Klein
                      3. Cummins

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by zac View Post
                        to be fair annesley reffed the time between our golden eras but even so. the one i like is matt cecchin - after a shaky start he was a very good ref and us having a good record under him says a bit
                        Yes Matt Cecchin . A fair and unobtrusive referee. A pity there weren't more like him !

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Crab View Post

                          Yes Matt Cecchin . A fair and unobtrusive referee. A pity there weren't more like him !
                          Absolutely! He had a knack of getting a feel for a game and letting it flow as much as possible. Most games would end and you hardly noticed him.
                          On the opposite end is Ashley Klein, who always needs to have his 15 minutes of fame, blowing the pea out of the whistle and taking a axe to one side. Short mans syndrome



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                          • #14
                            This exercise is inherently flawed because it presumes two things

                            1. The referee is solely responsible for a games outcome (it can happen, but in most games untrue)
                            2. The Roosters have always been a top team for the periods outlined

                            The fact is most games we have lost are due to on field performance, poorer squad than the opposition, poorer game plan that the opposition, injuries etc. There are some instances of referees influencing the outcome, but it is a small overall number.

                            It makes more sense to look at these percentages too over a shorter time span. Something covering 2018 - now only makes more sense.

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                            • #15
                              The funniest thing I've seen with refs is that little French one with the mo Julian Rascganares (or sim). Watched a clip of him reffing a game out here and he's in there breaking up fights pulling players by the collar, pushing them around etc. Hollywood Hartley used to do it a bit too.

                              How funny...can you imagine Sutton or Klein today getting in the middle and pushing players around?
                              #We Stand with ourJewish community#

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