A performance worthy of the best side in rugby league

[Rocky Rhodes]

Can always count on a quality response from you.

Indeed, Rocky is all about quality...

Couldn't come up with one example to justify the idiotic claim, imagine my surprise.

"most of the last 3 or 4 years the first-grade team has consistently had half the side missing every week"

LOL...are u counting Billy Smith's fingers

Get off the drugs dude..

[King Salvo]

All 17 of the Broncos GF team in 92 played for Australia. QLD must have been hopeless.

I'm sure if I bothered to look at their teams in 93,97,98 etc. the numbers would be similar.

If Robbo had 17 Australian reps in his team every year I'd be expecting the same results as Bennett.

Les's argument is severely flawed as the Broncos had the most extra stacked squads in 1992/1993/1998/2000/2006 the game has seen since the Dragons 11 premierships in a row, plus the Super League Comp was vastly inferior to the ARL Comp, and the Broncos were a shoe in to win that comp with their extra stacked squad.

Still amazed how they managed to fit them all in under the cap - the old they stay for less money was always trotted out.

NSW hardly dominant in SOO during that period - both 2-1 wins

State of Origin 1992 - NSW Won 2-1 - / W 14-6 / L 5-4 / W 16-4
State of Origin 1993 - NSW Won 2-1 / W 14-10 / W 16-12 / L 24-12

[King Salvo]

It is perfectly true ... I have never seen the club so humiliated ... in a manner which goes well beyond a scoreboard

Any coach who tells everyone how much he loves to see the opposition's best player smile and that the crowd should go easy on him on the eve of the biggest game of the year should be shot ... in a sporting sense

As for your last point ... see my second point ... and if you are sensitive about that term perhaps you fall under the same absurdist yoke

Total bollocks that the club was humiliated

Coach Robinson was quite right to calm down the situation with Latrell. The old baseball term don't wake up the bats comes to mind—which is why you don't have players making adverse comments about other players or teams pre-game that would fire up those players or teams.

The booing etc from the previous week would have fired up the Souths players, which then drew in the usual Roosters suspects into the trap of starting or retaliating to incidents and not playing footy, resulting in 3 sin bins: 2 for Radley and 1 for JWH.

Throw in Tedesco's HIA and Toops injury, ruling him out of the game, and the Roosters were under the cosh as there were already missing a few players - Manu for instance

Coach Robinson rightly took certain players to task over their ill-disciplined performances in that game.

In the old days, there would be a 10- or 15-minute softening-up period. After that, teams would then play footy. Often, you would see some teams wanting to go on with the softening-up period and lose the game as the other team would play proper footy instead.

[Les Tricolores]

Les's argument is severely flawed as the Broncos had the most extra stacked squads in 1992/1993/1998/2000/2006 the game has seen since the Dragons 11 premierships in a row, plus the Super League Comp was vastly inferior to the ARL Comp, and the Broncos were a shoe in to win that comp with their extra stacked squad.

Still amazed how they managed to fit them all in under the cap - the old they stay for less money was always trotted out.

NSW hardly dominant in SOO during that period - both 2-1 wins

State of Origin 1992 - NSW Won 2-1 - / W 14-6 / L 5-4 / W 16-4
State of Origin 1993 - NSW Won 2-1 / W 14-10 / W 16-12 / L 24-12

Hmm … seems you have barged into the conversation late and completely missed the point

As I said … through the 90s and well into the 2000s NSW were dominant … 10 series to 4

When that overwhelmingly swung back … QLD’s best players didn’t play for the Broncos anymore

What you say about the Broncos salary cap? they’ve been saying that about the Roosters for 20 odd years … I’m surprised at your lack of self-awareness

[Les Tricolores]

Total bollocks that the club was humiliated

Coach Robinson was quite right to calm down the situation with Latrell. The old baseball term don't wake up the bats comes to mind—which is why you don't have players making adverse comments about other players or teams pre-game that would fire up those players or teams.

The booing etc from the previous week would have fired up the Souths players, which then drew in the usual Roosters suspects into the trap of starting or retaliating to incidents and not playing footy, resulting in 3 sin bins: 2 for Radley and 1 for JWH.

Throw in Tedesco's HIA and Toops injury, ruling him out of the game, and the Roosters were under the cosh as there were already missing a few players - Manu for instance

Coach Robinson rightly took certain players to task over their ill-disciplined performances in that game.

In the old days, there would be a 10- or 15-minute softening-up period. After that, teams would then play footy. Often, you would see some teams wanting to go on with the softening-up period and lose the game as the other team would play proper footy instead.

Well you’ve completely lost the plot now

Roosters blitzed Latrell and Souths a week before … in front of a rightfully hostile home crowd … but the coach should have been worried about riling them up? lol

The game itself wasn’t decided on some phantom sin binning … it was decided on an intentional clenched fist swinging arm to the head of the most influential player on ground

As I said … Souths not only thugged us with impunity after some arrogant fool let the air out of the tyres … they left with the higher moral ground … because when it came to actually defending his own players and not Souths … the mealy mouthed clown had nothing to say

Again … the most humiliating day … worst example of coaching I’ve ever seen … pre match post match and on the day … no surprise the hangover lasted well into the next year

[Red.]

What you say about the Broncos salary cap? they’ve been saying that about the Roosters for 20 odd years … I’m surprised at your lack of self-awareness

I say have you ever heard of the Thoroughbreds? If you think Bennett's Broncos were complying with the salary cap you may need to check your self awarness.

BTW said Thoroughbreds coughed up 1 million dollars over 10 years to Wayne Bennett.

[King Salvo]

Hmm … seems you have barged into the conversation late and completely missed the point

As I said … through the 90s and well into the 2000s NSW were dominant … 10 series to 4

When that overwhelmingly swung back … QLD’s best players didn’t play for the Broncos anymore

What you say about the Broncos salary cap? they’ve been saying that about the Roosters for 20 odd years … I’m surprised at your lack of self-awareness

NSW teams are made up of a range of players from different teams compared to below where 1/2 or more of the QLD team were Bronco players from the extra stacked Bronco Squads during the years they won those comps.

With so many SOO players the Bronco's were a shoe in to win those comps as no other teams had even half as many SOO players.

Still wonder how they could fit them all in under the cap though.

Bennett is only successful when he has extra stacked squads at his disposal which he had when he was coaching the Bronco's when they won those 6 comps.

As an example in 1998 - The Broncos had 12 players who played SOO that year - another of those extra stacked squads not seen since the Dragons 11 premiership days.

1. Lockyer
2. Sailor
3. Renouf
4. Darren Smith
5. Kevin Walters
6. Langer
7. Webke
8. Ryan
9. Carroll
10. Thorn
11. Tallis
12. Gee

Other years when the Broncos won the comp with these extra stacked squads. - Number of Bronco players who played SOO.

1992 - 8
1993 - 9
1997 - 15 - Super League Tries series - 14 QLD and 1 NSW
1998 - 12 - mentioned above
2000 - 9
2006 - 8
2015 - 7 - Broncos Runners up - Cowboys Premiers

SOO Series /Tri Series Results

1992 - NSW 2-1
1993 - NSW 2-1
1997 - Super League Tri-Series - NSW winning the final 23-22 in Golden Point.
1998 - QLD 2-1
2000 - NSW 3-0 - 20-16 / 28-10/ 56-16
2006 - QLD 2-1
2015 - QLD 2-1

[Les Tricolores]

I say have you ever heard of the Thoroughbreds? If you think Bennett's Broncos were complying with the salary cap you may need to check your self awarness.

BTW said Thoroughbreds coughed up 1 million dollars over 10 years to Wayne Bennett.

Glass houses … stones

[Red.]

Glass houses … stones

That's not a reply I would expect from a Roosters fan.

[Les Tricolores]

NSW teams are made up of a range of players from different teams compared to below where 1/2 or more of the QLD team were Bronco players from the extra stacked Bronco Squads during the years they won those comps.

With so many SOO players the Bronco's were a shoe in to win those comps as no other teams had even half as many SOO players.

Still wonder how they could fit them all in under the cap though.

Bennett is only successful when he has extra stacked squads at his disposal which he had when he was coaching the Bronco's when they won those 6 comps.

As an example in 1998 - The Broncos had 12 players who played SOO that year - another of those extra stacked squads not seen since the Dragons 11 premiership days.

1. Lockyer
2. Sailor
3. Renouf
4. Darren Smith
5. Kevin Walters
6. Langer
7. Webke
8. Ryan
9. Carroll
10. Thorn
11. Tallis
12. Gee

Other years when the Broncos won the comp with these extra stacked squads. - Number of Bronco players who played SOO.

1992 - 8
1993 - 9
1997 - 15 - Super League Tries series - 14 QLD and 1 NSW
1998 - 12 - mentioned above
2000 - 9
2006 - 8
2015 - 7 - Broncos Runners up - Cowboys Premiers

SOO Series /Tri Series Results

1992 - NSW 2-1
1993 - NSW 2-1
1997 - Super League Tri-Series - NSW winning the final 23-22 in Golden Point.
1998 - QLD 2-1
2000 - NSW 3-0 - 20-16 / 28-10/ 56-16
2006 - QLD 2-1
2015 - QLD 2-1

Why are you cherry picking stats/years? you cannot see the forest for the trees? Broncos indeed had some fantastic sides … QLD also had some awfully average teams/representative players during that period

Again … you don’t speak the truth … by my count … pre present Dolphins … the Don has had 5 coaching stints in the NRL (or whatever its incarnation at the time) … and at least taken every team to the GF … with the exception of one … which he took within one game … a miracle in itself

These numbers are better than Gibsonesque … for the last time … you don’t have to like him … few like Robbo outside the club … but show the Don some respect … you appear like a hopelessly biased fan boy otherwise

[Les Tricolores]

That's not a reply I would expect from a Roosters fan.

I thought we were having an objective discussion … or would you prefer I be a fan boy?

Either way I think it is pertinent … Roosters have been accused of rorting the salary cap for decades … you think we should deny that but then turn around and do the same?

[Red.]

Settle down Les. We are having an objective discussion. And no one is asking you to be a fan boy.

I have nothing against Wayne Bennett, I just don't share the same high opinion of his coaching as you do.

Surely that's ok?

Let me ask you a question.

If Robinson snares 3 more premierships in the next 10 years would you call that a success?

[King Salvo]

Well you’ve completely lost the plot now

Roosters blitzed Latrell and Souths a week before … in front of a rightfully hostile home crowd … but the coach should have been worried about riling them up? lol

The game itself wasn’t decided on some phantom sin binning … it was decided on an intentional clenched fist swinging arm to the head of the most influential player on ground

As I said … Souths not only thugged us with impunity after some arrogant fool let the air out of the tyres … they left with the higher moral ground … because when it came to actually defending his own players and not Souths … the mealy mouthed clown had nothing to say

Again … the most humiliating day … worst example of coaching I’ve ever seen … pre match post match and on the day … no surprise the hangover lasted well into the next year

26-16 is hardly a blitzing and all knew the following week was the main game.

You fell into the trap as others do by focusing on one player when the Roosters play Souths." Roosters blitzed Latrell and Souths a week before. "Latrell is one player; there are 16 other players that make up a team. You don't have a game plan focusing solely on just one player and ignoring the other 16–101 coaching.

It was quite simple to understand what Coach Robinson was saying and meaning, but it obviously went over your head.

Not sure how Coach Robinson could be blamed for the Tedesco incident; he's not the referee or in the bunker; Burgess was sin binned and Milne as well, which left 13 on 11, which the Roosters should have taken advantage of, but certain players were wanting to get square still instead of playing footy.

When you have the trainers running onto the field telling players to cool it and play footy and they ignore it, whose fault is that? JWH and Radley's, of course, and as I said, Coach Robinson was correct to call them both out for bone-head ill-disciplined play.

It's not the 1970s, and the so-called thuggery days are long gone. You need to play footy to beat sides.

[mightyrooster]

Les your attacks on Trent are now getting very personal. Your objectivity is being lost with comments such as he is fat, a clown, woke and arrogant. I'm sure I've missed some too.

[King Salvo]

Why are you cherry picking stats/years? you cannot see the forest for the trees? Broncos indeed had some fantastic sides … QLD also had some awfully average teams/representative players during that period

Again … you don’t speak the truth … by my count … pre present Dolphins … the Don has had 5 coaching stints in the NRL (or whatever its incarnation at the time) … and at least taken every team to the GF … with the exception of one … which he took within one game … a miracle in itself

These numbers are better than Gibsonesque … for the last time … you don’t have to like him … few like Robbo outside the club … but show the Don some respect … you appear like a hopelessly biased fan boy otherwise

Bennett is no Big Jack Gibson who took on many a tough coaching role during his 16 years of coaching - Eastern Suburbs (1967/68) / Newtown (1973) / Souths (1978/79) / Cronulla (1985-87)

First Job as Coach - Eastern Suburbs in 1967 - who were wooden spooners in 1965/66 - didn't win a game in 1966 - Coached the same squad in 1966 to the semi finals in 1967 and again in 1968 - 4 team finals series back then

16 years - 6 Grand Finals and 5 Premierships.

Bennett has had extra stacked squads chock full of SOO and Internationals during those premiership seasons as any one can see

35th year - 8 Grand Finals and 7 Premierships with extra stacked squads