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  • #61
    Poor coaching indeed.

    Robbo was outcoached by Fitzy.

    Sharks were what we had to be to win...too big, too strong, too fast....but were not.

    Radley........small forward...would make good centre.
    N Butcher...small forward...would make good centre.

    Sharks ran ball on 5th tackle, outsmarted unprepared Roosters, try scored...game over basically.

    Sharks bench was huge, dragged our defenders over line for try.
    Our bench was smallish, where were Whyte (injured?), Wong?

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    • #62
      Probably the least concerned I’ve been after a loss for quite a long time. We played some really good attacking footy and got a rush of blood at times in key moments and turned the ball over.

      Some really really silly errors at crucial times hurt us. Still only 8pts in it and that’s counting junk time try right at the end.

      We left points out there and a supposed Premiership threat completed at near perfection. They won’t play any better than that and we will play far far better, make of that what you will given it’s Round 10.

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      • #63
        Well we did put 30 on them, so well done in doing so.
        Our clumsy turnover to incomplete sets gifted them the match, we have the players/coach to overcome this, so no need for communal flagellation, we have the side that can and probably will be the premieres 2024.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by rented tracksuit View Post

          The wheel was always round. Doesn’t mean it can turn though.

          Luke Brooks was on a mil a year. Does that him marquee?
          I watched him the other night. God awful player. How did Tigers stick with him for so long. One trick pony but I don’t even know what that trick is tbh.
          Exonerate the West Memphis Three - www.wm3.org

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          • #65
            Originally posted by King Salvo View Post
            Probably the game the Roosters needed as D has been a bit loose which has been covered up by the scores they have been racking up.

            Not sure they need to tone down the attack that much - maybe the old take the tackle instead of throwing the miracle pass and getting to the kick after points and generally types of scenario.

            Gave the Sharks too much ball especially in the second half with errors coming out of their end which put the D under pressure.

            Not sure who does the stats for either of the below and why they differ across the board

            FOX NRL

            Roosters 301 tackles and 24 missed
            Sharks 269 tackles and 32 missed

            NRL

            Roosters 333 tackles and 33 missed - 9 ineffective tackles
            Sharks 288 and 35 missed - 28 ineffective tackles




            You always refer to our Chooks as an outsider would I.e. the Roosters or they.
            If you were truly a RWB fan you'd referenre as - we, us, our.

            Furthermore, you get your kicks chipping in and stirring the pot with Hutchinator BS.

            You're a fox disguished in sheep's clothing.
            Rack off and support your bottom of the ladder mob .

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            • #66
              Originally posted by bondi.boy View Post

              Yes.

              Hope they pick Edwards for SOO fullback...so we can keep Teddy at Roosters...there's much work to be done if we intend making finals top 4.
              I’d actually relish seeing Manu at fullback for a few games whilst we still can and the only way we can see that is Teddy playing SOO.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by bondi.boy View Post
                Poor coaching indeed.

                Robbo was outcoached by Fitzy.

                Sharks were what we had to be to win...too big, too strong, too fast....but were not.

                Radley........small forward...would make good centre.
                N Butcher...small forward...would make good centre.

                Sharks ran ball on 5th tackle, outsmarted unprepared Roosters, try scored...game over basically.

                Sharks bench was huge, dragged our defenders over line for try.
                Our bench was smallish, where were Whyte (injured?), Wong?
                I’m glad you’re not selecting the team. Radley and Nat Butcher as good centres?

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by theGman View Post

                  You always refer to our Chooks as an outsider would I.e. the Roosters or they.
                  If you were truly a RWB fan you'd referenre as - we, us, our.

                  Furthermore, you get your kicks chipping in and stirring the pot with Hutchinator BS.

                  You're a fox disguished in sheep's clothing.
                  Rack off and support your bottom of the ladder mob .
                  Whoah there G Man, I dunno about that.

                  Just because Kling doesn’t say we or us doesn’t mean he doesn’t support the Chooks. If he said ‘we’ the inference would be that he was on the field, making the play, which I doubt he was.

                  Further to your rationale, if someone were to use ‘we’ or ‘us’ in their text but the essence of their message was anti-Rooster, wouldn’t that be more damaging?

                  I fail to see that King Stalin is a Rabbitohs fan.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by HunchoRooster View Post
                    Probably the least concerned I’ve been after a loss for quite a long time. We played some really good attacking footy and got a rush of blood at times in key moments and turned the ball over.

                    Some really really silly errors at crucial times hurt us. Still only 8pts in it and that’s counting junk time try right at the end.

                    We left points out there and a supposed Premiership threat completed at near perfection. They won’t play any better than that and we will play far far better, make of that what you will given it’s Round 10.
                    I agree with you.

                    We put 30 on the ladder leaders. It was our worst defensive effort of the year, our biggest losing margin of the year and yet we're still in the top 8 and will remain in the top 8 after the weekend is done and dusted.

                    It was Cronulla's 2nd worst defensive effort of the year.

                    We were on the right side of the ledger in many of the stats (line breaks, offloads, tackle breaks etc), but as usual we fell down with penalties, set restarts etc.

                    2 stupid brain-dead moments cost us the game, though I am getting sick and tired of only getting set restarts on our side of halfway yet conceding restarts when defending inside our quarter or on our try line. Can we blame the refs? What about the diabolical call that indirectly led to a Cronulla try in the first half? Walker's accidental front-on high shot on a falling Cronulla player line draws a Sharks penalty. Next set, they score.

                    It's the next match against Canberra that will prove or disprove the Roosters' credentials.

                    As a pessimist, I wasn't expecting us to win. That they led at half time proved they can take it to the best teams. The past month has proven that their style of play should prevail against most other teams, but it's near on impossible to overcome an opponent that makes very few errors. Maybe if Manu had played the result might have been different, but it's impossible to know.

                    I think Easts have a reasonably soft draw coming home and they MUST capitalise on it.
                    Last edited by Carlos Parra; 05-19-2024, 11:24 AM.
                    1985: 1 try vs Parramatta, 1 try vs Manly, 1 try vs Wests, 2 tries vs Souffs
                    1986: 2 tries vs Illawarra, 1 try vs Balmain, 2 tries vs Norths.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by roosterchook View Post

                      True but Robbo has them playing a very risk style of footy which only comes off occasionally. That style against decent teams only gives them the game like today.
                      Not the point. Regardless of the style played, a ball can be dropped. Big Dog’s post implied that we should never ever drop the ball.

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                      • #71
                        This is the issue though are we happy to except mediocrity?
                        we have a team that should beat anyone
                        but again have lost 5 games we could have won
                        yes we didn’t play well but how much is this going to hurt later in the year to try and make the top 4? We can potentially only loose a couple more games now

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Juggler View Post

                          Not the point. Regardless of the style played, a ball can be dropped. Big Dog’s post implied that we should never ever drop the ball.
                          Yes under wet conditions more so but there is such a thing called ball control. Funny how no matter what roster Robbo has we are usually the team with the worst discipline. And as for Robbo’s gameplan it’s just that, he has none. It’s “throw the dice and see what happens” which seems to be the so called “roosters style”. The problem we seem to have more than most other teams is we take stupid risks for the entire 80 minutes instead of building pressure.
                          “Soon will the present day order be rolled up, and a new one spread out in its stead”- (Baha’u’llah)

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                          • #73
                            I’ve always loved Robbo for what he’s done for the roosters but I honestly don’t think the boys are capable of delivering consistently winning footy on the very high risk footy he has them playing 80 minutes non stop. It’s just beyond them to play this style without making stupid mistakes, constantly dropping the ball or giving away penalties which has resulted in creating the most error prone team in the comp that can’t beat the top teams due to poor discipline. So I strongly disagree with Robbo’s coaching style. We need composure and patience not to run around like headless chooks!
                            “Soon will the present day order be rolled up, and a new one spread out in its stead”- (Baha’u’llah)

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by roosterchook View Post
                              I’ve always loved Robbo for what he’s done for the roosters but I honestly don’t think the boys are capable of delivering consistently winning footy on the very high risk footy he has them playing 80 minutes non stop. It’s just beyond them to play this style without making stupid mistakes, constantly dropping the ball or giving away penalties which has resulted in creating the most error prone team in the comp that can’t beat the top teams due to poor discipline. So I strongly disagree with Robbo’s coaching style. We need composure and patience not to run around like headless chooks!
                              I love Sammy, but he is Mr heads up off the cuff footy 100% of the time so our sets aren't structured according to the scoreboard or clock. It's currently boom or bust!

                              Manu's class may have been the difference in last night game had he played. This is what we rely on in tight games. Class players and high risk footy will blow some teams off the park but also has the potential to backfire. We need to find the middle ground imo.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by roosterchook View Post
                                I’ve always loved Robbo for what he’s done for the roosters but I honestly don’t think the boys are capable of delivering consistently winning footy on the very high risk footy he has them playing 80 minutes non stop. It’s just beyond them to play this style without making stupid mistakes, constantly dropping the ball or giving away penalties which has resulted in creating the most error prone team in the comp that can’t beat the top teams due to poor discipline. So I strongly disagree with Robbo’s coaching style. We need composure and patience not to run around like headless chooks!
                                Excellent point.
                                We have thanks to Cronk for 2018 and 2019 titles for the football acumen, composure and discipline he helped instil into our squad.

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