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  • #31
    Ahh yes, it’s not like Billy smith wasn’t playing reserve grade behind suaalii at the beginining of the season

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    • #32
      JS wont let anyone down if picked!



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      • #33
        Originally posted by FlamingRooster View Post
        Ahh yes, it’s not like Billy smith wasn’t playing reserve grade behind suaalii at the beginining of the season
        For the whole 41 min he manged to play (in round 3) this season? That's a little disingenuous isn't it?

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Nicola Tesla View Post
          The mail I got from a mate of Madge is that he’s def in. But who knows.. also said Walker was 5/8 (can’t stand Luai)
          Take it for what it’s worth.. not much but you never know.
          Walker? Fuk no.
          FVCK CANCER

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          • #35
            Originally posted by FlamingRooster View Post
            Ahh yes, it’s not like Billy smith wasn’t playing reserve grade behind suaalii at the beginining of the season
            Billy smith was running at left centre in pre season and Suaali fullback in reserve grade
            For the whole pre season
            then young and and b smith got injured for round 1 so suaali came back in
            when billy came back after missing a few rounds he came back in res grade to get game time
            same thing will happen again when he comes back

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            • #36
              it's an odd one. he's up there but his selection isn't clear cut and given he's leaving at the end of the year there will be no reaping of rewards down the track.
              but he is up there and highlights some of the hypercriticisms of him on here

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              • #37
                He will be physical and do the job on the wing.

                I am up for it if it means Teddy does not have to play.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Chook2 View Post

                  Billy smith was running at left centre in pre season and Suaali fullback in reserve grade
                  For the whole pre season
                  then young and and b smith got injured for round 1 so suaali came back in
                  when billy came back after missing a few rounds he came back in res grade to get game time
                  same thing will happen again when he comes back
                  Don’t get me wrong, I think he’s a good player that put a good few games together at the back end of last year and will most likely be lining up in our 17 to start the season next year. But he also put 4-5 consecutive stinkers down last year, much worse than Jo has ever put up. The other reality is that he started the season injured, didn’t start when he returned as ur claiming he would, and then got injured again. Suaalii I believe is a top 5 winger in the game, is centre his position, probably not, but he’s put a few good games under his belt, brings an X factor that Billy doesn’t, and can stay on the field. If roosters are contending when Billy comes back, I don’t see a path unless injury strikes this year. If ur right I’m more than happy to bite the bullet

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by FlamingRooster View Post

                    Don’t get me wrong, I think he’s a good player that put a good few games together at the back end of last year and will most likely be lining up in our 17 to start the season next year. But he also put 4-5 consecutive stinkers down last year, much worse than Jo has ever put up. The other reality is that he started the season injured, didn’t start when he returned as ur claiming he would, and then got injured again. Suaalii I believe is a top 5 winger in the game, is centre his position, probably not, but he’s put a few good games under his belt, brings an X factor that Billy doesn’t, and can stay on the field. If roosters are contending when Billy comes back, I don’t see a path unless injury strikes this year. If ur right I’m more than happy to bite the bullet
                    Are you sure you watched us play last year? I can’t remember Billy putting in more stinkers than Jo put in, particularly 4 or 5 in a row. Every game Jo played at centre was a massive stinker.

                    Big call saying Suualii is a top 5 winger in the game when he’s only the third best winger at his club! Plenty of better wingers out there that have more impact on a game.
                    Last edited by Steggles; 05-24-2024, 09:20 PM.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by FlamingRooster View Post

                      Don’t get me wrong, I think he’s a good player that put a good few games together at the back end of last year and will most likely be lining up in our 17 to start the season next year. But he also put 4-5 consecutive stinkers down last year, much worse than Jo has ever put up. The other reality is that he started the season injured, didn’t start when he returned as ur claiming he would, and then got injured again. Suaalii I believe is a top 5 winger in the game, is centre his position, probably not, but he’s put a few good games under his belt, brings an X factor that Billy doesn’t, and can stay on the field. If roosters are contending when Billy comes back, I don’t see a path unless injury strikes this year. If ur right I’m more than happy to bite the bullet
                      Please this is all ridiculous
                      Billy smith came back after a reco and was one of the chooks best consistently - something Suaali could not do! Suaali has had stinkers for two years straight getting found out in defence and offering completely nothing in attack! Suaali is also on $750k a year (same as Manu) he has scored 1 try this year and made 4 line breaks! We have scored 170 points in 4 games - he can’t create a line break or tackle break, very rarely passes the ball- the only thing he does in run a straight line direct into contact! No suaali brings no X factor at all! With his that’s this year please let me know what X factor you are taking about
                      and yes Billy was the left centre before injury, came back in res grade and got injured again! When he comes back he will come back though reserve grade but it won’t take him long to get his centre spot back
                      and much worse games then Suaali? The only player worse then Suaali was Momo

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Steggles View Post

                        Are you sure you watched us play last year? I can’t remember Billy putting in more stinkers than Jo put in, particularly 4 or 5 in a row. Every game Jo played at centre was a massive stinker.

                        Big call saying Suualii is a top 5 winger in the game when he’s only the third best winger at his club! Plenty of better wingers out there that have more impact on a game.
                        Isn’t it funny how easily people forgot how good players are when they are not playing
                        Billy smith
                        so many thought Watson was bad last year when he wasn’t playing - now the best in the side
                        I honestly don’t think I would have ever rated suaali in our best 3 players in any game - doing a 3-2-1 feature he would never be there
                        but apparently one half decent game where he doesn’t stuff up and all of a sudden he is one of the best players on the comp
                        in 11 games this year he has 1 try! Amazing X factor

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Chook2 View Post

                          Please this is all ridiculous
                          Billy smith came back after a reco and was one of the chooks best consistently - something Suaali could not do! Suaali has had stinkers for two years straight getting found out in defence and offering completely nothing in attack! Suaali is also on $750k a year (same as Manu) he has scored 1 try this year and made 4 line breaks! We have scored 170 points in 4 games - he can’t create a line break or tackle break, very rarely passes the ball- the only thing he does in run a straight line direct into contact! No suaali brings no X factor at all! With his that’s this year please let me know what X factor you are taking about
                          and yes Billy was the left centre before injury, came back in res grade and got injured again! When he comes back he will come back though reserve grade but it won’t take him long to get his centre spot back
                          and much worse games then Suaali? The only player worse then Suaali was Momo
                          Did a Salvo and had a google . Between round 11-15 (he didn’t play 13 and 15) Billy made 10 errors (average of 3.3 per game) including 5 against the Panthers and 4 against SGI. As well as that he missed between rounds 12 and 16 (missing 13 and 15) 9 missed tackles (3 a game).

                          Suaalii has 6 try assists, almost 140 run metres a game and a tackle efficiency of 88.5. X factor wise u just need to watch his aerial leaps or even the flick pass to Dom in the weekend. Can he be prone to a bad game, absolutely. Does he sometimes look lost defensively at centre, yep. But ultimately if we have a game against Penrith tomorrow in the grand final, I’d prefer Jo.

                          Maybe Billy comes back and absolutely kills it, forcing his way into the 17, I tell you what they’d have to be some absolute blinders, and if he does, who’s to say that Suaalii won’t supplant Dom or Toops on the wing?

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by FlamingRooster View Post

                            Did a Salvo and had a google . Between round 11-15 (he didn’t play 13 and 15) Billy made 10 errors (average of 3.3 per game) including 5 against the Panthers and 4 against SGI. As well as that he missed between rounds 12 and 16 (missing 13 and 15) 9 missed tackles (3 a game).

                            Suaalii has 6 try assists, almost 140 run metres a game and a tackle efficiency of 88.5. X factor wise u just need to watch his aerial leaps or even the flick pass to Dom in the weekend. Can he be prone to a bad game, absolutely. Does he sometimes look lost defensively at centre, yep. But ultimately if we have a game against Penrith tomorrow in the grand final, I’d prefer Jo.

                            Maybe Billy comes back and absolutely kills it, forcing his way into the 17, I tell you what they’d have to be some absolute blinders, and if he does, who’s to say that Suaalii won’t supplant Dom or Toops on the wing?
                            Again in 11 games this year suaali has scored 1 try
                            while Manu had 8
                            and young has scored 8 in 8 games
                            young has 15 line breaks and 42 tackle breaks
                            compared to suaali 6 line breaks in 11 games
                            and young averages more mtrs 160
                            that flick pass was the first I have seen him pass the ball or do anything exciting
                            why was billly smith at centre all pre season? As he was better then Suaali
                            how many tries has suaali let in but racing off his wing or getting caught flat footed and players going around him which these tackles don’t show? Getting burnt by Moses Suli was embarrassing
                            don’t be silly as if toops and young will be dropped
                            for $750k do you think we are getting the output from him?

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                            • #44
                              By seasons end every Roosters supporter will be grieving the loss of Suaalii. He going from strength to strength and last weeks effort in defence was another glimpse into where he's heading.
                              right centre could be his spot he looked comfortable there in defence.
                              what a shame hel be leaving just when he's finding his feet....

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by FlamingRooster View Post

                                Did a Salvo and had a google . Between round 11-15 (he didn’t play 13 and 15) Billy made 10 errors (average of 3.3 per game) including 5 against the Panthers and 4 against SGI. As well as that he missed between rounds 12 and 16 (missing 13 and 15) 9 missed tackles (3 a game).

                                Suaalii has 6 try assists, almost 140 run metres a game and a tackle efficiency of 88.5. X factor wise u just need to watch his aerial leaps or even the flick pass to Dom in the weekend. Can he be prone to a bad game, absolutely. Does he sometimes look lost defensively at centre, yep. But ultimately if we have a game against Penrith tomorrow in the grand final, I’d prefer Jo.

                                Maybe Billy comes back and absolutely kills it, forcing his way into the 17, I tell you what they’d have to be some absolute blinders, and if he does, who’s to say that Suaalii won’t supplant Dom or Toops on the wing?
                                You should probably do Suaalii’s stats from last year if you’re comparing the number of stinkers he’s had compared to Smith; he was less than reserve grade standard at centre.

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