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  • #16
    Oh another Nat bashing thread. He would still make my 17.

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    • #17
      Ho Hum another Easts75 dishing of Nat Butcher post

      Nat Butcher is a very good player and highly thought of by the club and coaching staff which is all that matters - signed till 2027.



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      • #18
        Nat has over 400 tackles this season (9th in the NRL) at 95% efficiency. 6 of the 8 ahead of him in the tackle count also feature in the top missed tackle stats. Nat doesn’t.

        Those who don’t value him are failing to see both sides of the game.
        Last edited by Waylander; 05-25-2024, 08:37 PM.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Easts75 View Post
          Victor on the edge !!!!! Whyte or Connor at 13.

          Hopefully with a healthy squad this is the end of the grape
          Yeah you have every right to dis a player that has performed over and above for his club over ten years - because ... oh I forget why you have that right but obviously you're totally entitled to it . You fkn bum

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          • #20
            Every good team needs a toiler.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by top_joe View Post

              I have Whyte at 13, Connor at 14.

              What a great spot for the team to be in at them moment in terms of depth/
              Same here and no disrespect to Nat but he is not in the top 17 players in this team if everyone is fit

              11 angus
              12 victor
              13 whyte
              14 Connor
              15 Egan / Sandton / Wong
              16 May
              17 Spencer

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              • #22
                Ok....so I farked up a bit with my initial post

                I cannot cop him in our run on 13

                I can tolerate him off the bench used in the middle, but we do have plenty of cover there

                In the middle he is forced to carry the ball. On an edge,.he puts out these 45metre games and just stands there while others work

                I love it though how emotional some get when their opinion doesn't match theirs, it's hilarious

                Hopefully we maintain a healthy squad and we will see who Robbo runs with...Nat already seems blessed with his brother going down

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Waylander View Post
                  Nat has over 400 tackles this season (9th in the NRL) at 95% efficiency. 6 of the 8 ahead of him in the tackle count also feature in the top missed tackle stats. Nat doesn’t.

                  Those who don’t value him are failing to see both sides of the game.
                  Yes, true.

                  I've heard it all before. Used to hear it a lot about MAubs, Friendy, even Cordner.

                  I even remember at least a couple of people early on in Cords career saying to get rid of him, and that we needed a Feliti Mateo style ball player instead. LOL.

                  I don't think many fans watch the nuances of the game that closely.

                  If they did, this thread wouldn't exist.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Easts75 View Post
                    Ok....so I farked up a bit with my initial post

                    I cannot cop him in our run on 13

                    I can tolerate him off the bench used in the middle, but we do have plenty of cover there

                    In the middle he is forced to carry the ball. On an edge,.he puts out these 45metre games and just stands there while others work

                    I love it though how emotional some get when their opinion doesn't match theirs, it's hilarious

                    Hopefully we maintain a healthy squad and we will see who Robbo runs with...Nat already seems blessed with his brother going down
                    You and Les should get a room.

                    We have to be thankful that neither of you has a say on anything to do with the club, whether it be coaching appointments, player signings, or retentions.




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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Easts75 View Post
                      Ok....so I farked up a bit with my initial post

                      I cannot cop him in our run on 13

                      I can tolerate him off the bench used in the middle, but we do have plenty of cover there

                      In the middle he is forced to carry the ball. On an edge,.he puts out these 45metre games and just stands there while others work

                      I love it though how emotional some get when their opinion doesn't match theirs, it's hilarious

                      Hopefully we maintain a healthy squad and we will see who Robbo runs with...Nat already seems blessed with his brother going down
                      You can have whatever opinion you want obviously- it's just the disrespect you show in the way you said it that riled me. Nat's done more for the club than all the members of this site put together and done it all without a hint of on field or off field drama but still not good enough for some to show him respect at least.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Easts75 View Post
                        Just my opinion, I certainly know others differ

                        I think he has been poor all year and Robbo said himself he was dropping him

                        Offers absolutely zero with ball In hand and he has lapsed defensively this year.

                        I don't think you can carry a player anymore that just tackles well, it's not enough imo
                        no, robbo said he rested him. with whyte playing so well yesterday he's really put his hand up and if he continues like that he'd be in the 17 which might look something like -

                        teddy
                        toops
                        suaalii
                        manu
                        young
                        keary
                        walker
                        whyte
                        crichton
                        rads
                        jwh
                        cheese
                        lindsay

                        watson
                        n butch
                        leniu
                        may

                        sitili will also be pushing

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by The Lip View Post

                          You can have whatever opinion you want obviously- it's just the disrespect you show in the way you said it that riled me. Nat's done more for the club than all the members of this site put together and done it all without a hint of on field or off field drama but still not good enough for some to show him respect at least.
                          Yeah the disrespect is ridiculous, Nat does all the ugly things well that nobody ever sees, he’s in my 17 every week.

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                          • #28
                            A great clubman and good guy but we need more attack on his side. He doesn’t offer much threat. Defence is only half the game.

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                            • #29
                              Put on some side and play in the middle or there is no place for him.

                              his line running is garbage as he is just too slow, and his lateral movement is for shit so he gets found out in defence a lot on the edges (grabbing at air doesn’t count as a missed tackle so the stats don’t tell the story there).

                              but he runs hard, actually does have very good hands and when an attacker gets within his range he’ll drop them like a bag of shit. So make a very effective prop where those things are paramount.

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