State of Origin, game 1

[barryd]

The following two frames clearly shows Walsh slipping and falling and how far in the one second time frame between the 2 frames - If Walsh didn't slip and fall it would have been a normal tackle - Impossible for Suaalii to pull out and it also shows no evidence of Suaalii "launching" himself either

And it also shows that it wasn’t late as some are trying to suggest

[Steggles]

And it also shows that it wasn’t late as some are trying to suggest

Definitely not late, but have a look at the frame AFTER the impact where both of Suaalii’s feet are off the ground.

[Vasco]

Great, just as he was hitting some good form for us.

Is Billy Smith back in training?

[rented tracksuit]

Exactly. And he's a pretty tall cat into the bargain.

Yep and if you are not leaning forward into a front on tackle, you will get trampled, run over or knocked backwards. His action was fine imo. It went south when the pretty midget slipped. If he doesn’t slip, JS would have knocked the nail polish off him and everyone would be praising the shot. The fact it went wrong should have been a binning but not a send off. This is origin after all.

[Bates]

The rule is flawed.

Suaalii's technique is perfect and is repeatedly practiced on the tackle bag by all ages from the under 6's right through to the NRL. When Walsh slips with less than . 5 of a second before contact is made, it becomes physically impossible for Suaalii to adjust his target zone.

I would definitely contest it!

[King Salvo]

Definitely not late, but have a look at the frame AFTER the impact where both of Suaalii’s feet are off the ground.

I don't see where his both feet are off the ground - 1st one both feet on the ground and second one with one foot on the ground and bracing for impact.

In any case when running/jogging your both feet are always off the ground as below shows - A young Sandon Smith makes a break - so fast that his feet don't even touch the ground

[mightyrooster]

The rule is flawed.

Suaalii's technique is perfect and is repeatedly practiced on the tackle bag by all ages from the under 6's right through to the NRL. When Walsh slips with less than . 5 of a second before contact is made, it becomes physically impossible for Suaalii to adjust his target zone.

I would definitely contest it!

It’s not going to matter though. They’ll say he came out of the line too fast with the intent to put on a good shot. When a player makes such a choice, the defender needs to be aware that if the opposition player changes position ie swerves, dips, slips then the onus is still on him to adjust his tackle to prevent unlawful collision. In other words if you’re going to race out of the line you better make sure there is no unlawful contact regardless any mitigating circumstances as the blame s 100% on the defender. It doesn’t matter if we agree with any of this or not, it’s just the way it is these days. If the tackle comes off perfectly like Liam Martin the commentators can crap on about how awesome the hit was but if the exact same tackle goes wrong by a split second, then you’re suspended for 4 weeks.

[Steggles]

I don't see where his both feet are off the ground - 1st one both feet on the ground and second one with one foot on the ground and bracing for impact.

In any case when running/jogging your both feet are always off the ground as below shows - A young Sandon Smith makes a break - so fast that his feet don't even touch the ground

They were your pictures in the quote, not mine.

[Chook2]

I can’t wait to play broncos again - hopefully in the finals series
Leniu v mam
suaali v Walsh
seems origin has stuffed our season
4 out originally
Keary back a day before the game
then teddy ruled out on roosters game day and we lost with him not there
Suaali suspended for 4 weeks
nsw should apologise to the chooks

[Bates]

It’s not going to matter though. They’ll say he came out of the line too fast with the intent to put on a good shot. When a player makes such a choice, the defender needs to be aware that if the opposition player changes position ie swerves, dips, slips then the onus is still on him to adjust his tackle to prevent unlawful collision. In other words if you’re going to race out of the line you better make sure there is no unlawful contact regardless any mitigating circumstances as the blame s 100% on the defender. It doesn’t matter if we agree with any of this or not, it’s just the way it is these days. If the tackle comes off perfectly like Liam Martin the commentators can crap on about how awesome the hit was but if the exact same tackle goes wrong by a split second, then you’re suspended for 4 weeks.

Hi MR, agree 100%. I get how it works. My argument is that the rule needs to change. Mitigating circumstance need to be considered! Suaalii's approach was technically perfect. His intensity and line speed is what we demand from a SOO game. It should be on Walsh imo. He slipped just before the point of contact and lowered his centre of gravity. There was literally no time and nothing Suaallii could do at that point to avoid the contact.

The NRL can't have it both ways! Promote the gladiatorial, tribalistic and barbaric nature of SOO and then retract when a player slips just before the point of contact and it all goes pear shaped. It can't be black and white especially in this instance.

[mightyrooster]

Hi MR, agree 100%. I get how it works. My argument is that the rule needs to change. Mitigating circumstance need to be considered! Suaalii's approach was technically perfect. His intensity and line speed is what we demand from a SOO game. It should be on Walsh imo. He slipped just before the point of contact and lowered his centre of gravity. There was literally no time and nothing Suaallii could do at that point to avoid the contact.

The NRL can't have it both ways! Promote the gladiatorial, tribalistic and barbaric nature of SOO and then retract when a player slips just before the point of contact and it all goes pear shaped. It can't be black and white especially in this instance.

Agree with everything you say, but sadly I think the NRL IS trying to have it both ways. It’s a contact sport and the big legal hits are what made Origin great (along with hating QLD) and the NRL still want that but don’t want to be sued for it down the track. Personally I’m over Origin now anyway. It just penalises the successful clubs and rewards the mediocre ones by artificially altering the competition that counts - the NRL premiership.

[player 1]

Agree with everything you say, but sadly I think the NRL IS trying to have it both ways. It’s a contact sport and the big legal hits are what made Origin great (along with hating QLD) and the NRL still want that but don’t want to be sued for it down the track. Personally I’m over Origin now anyway. It just penalises the successful clubs and rewards the mediocre ones by artificially altering the competition that counts - the NRL premiership.

Well put.

And really, how can you take the NRL seriously when a narcissistic misanthrope, who is also incompetent, is considered the number 1 referee?

Rugby League - 1908-2019 - just proud we won the last 2 real competitions.

[King Salvo]

So if Joseph takes the early plea he will miss 4 NRL Games - Eels / Dogs / Tigers / Dragons - Be back Round 20 July 20 vs Storm - Will be eligible for S00 Game 3 but won't have played any football for 6 weeks before that.

• 14 - Bye - 6 - 9 June
• 15 - Eels - 15 June
• 16 - Dogs - 22 June
• (SOO2 - 26 June)
• 17 - Tigers - 30th June
• 18 - Dragons - 7th July
• 19 - Bye - 11- 14 July
• (SOO3 - 17th July)
• 20 - Storm - 20th July

[player 1]

The rule is flawed.

Suaalii's technique is perfect and is repeatedly practiced on the tackle bag by all ages from the under 6's right through to the NRL. When Walsh slips with less than . 5 of a second before contact is made, it becomes physically impossible for Suaalii to adjust his target zone.

I would definitely contest it!

Waste of time. Not because you don't make a legitimate point - you certainly do. It wasn't a send off offence, for the many reasons already outlined.

But what on earth makes you think he'd get a fair hearing?

Plus this particular "victim" ticks multiple boxes that would prohibit the NRL from having the courage to view it objectively.

[Recky62]

Yep, I’m over Origin , it was alright when it was the way you got picked for the kangaroos …now it’s just a money making exercise (even more then the NRL) and a detriment to the top teams….

oh and by the way , **** you Rothfield , you blithering old fool , the only negative thing you (and your dipshit mates) on 360 tonight didnt call Bondi Joe was “defector”