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  • Win record post Origin - Roosters by far the best

    It's worth remembering that the Roosters under Robbo always leave their best form for the end of the year - when it counts. An article in the SMH highlights the win rate of teams in the post-Origin period and the Roosters have by far the best record:

    ​​​​​​"An analysis by Champion Data of the results of matches after the third Origin game in the last 10 years (excluding 2020 as the series was played after the grand final) has found the Roosters to be the most successful team in the run-in to the finals – by a long way.

    Trent Robinson’s teams have been known as slow starters to a season throughout his tenure. But despite boasting a veritable army of players to have pulled on the NSW or Queensland jumper over the past decade – they had an NRL best six play in this year’s series, too – his sides have generally finished the regular season with a rush, rather than a whimper.
    So much so, that their 78.7 per cent winning percentage from 2014-23 after Origin III far outstrips that of their nearest rivals, Craig Bellamy’s Storm (72.4 per cent).

    It’s no fluke the Roosters and Storm, arguably the two most dominant teams of the NRL era, are so good at making their runs at the right time.

    Robinson not only carefully crafts a schedule for his players, but looks after himself and his staff, too. He went hiking and did not watch this year’s Origin series opener live, so wasn’t aware Joseph Suaalii had been sent off for his tackle on Reece Walsh until hours after the game.

    The Panthers – who have made the last four grand finals and had five players pull on sky blue even without Nathan Cleary this year – have the third-best record post-Origin at 63.2 per cent.

    “You look at a world title fight, the hype, the build-up, the adrenalin, everything … and when they finish that fight they go on holidays for two months,” says Hayden Knowles, helping Robinson at the Roosters this year and former head of high performance with NSW and Penrith.

    “These guys go back to work the next day. The mental drain is so hard. I can tell you personally, Robbo does it really well handling it with his players, and so does Ivan Cleary [at Penrith].

    ​​​​​​The data also shows that just because you might not have a lot of Origin stars, doesn’t mean you’re guaranteed to win more games than usual.

    Among the worst performing teams after Origin across the last decade are ones devoid of NSW or Queensland regulars. Think the Titans (28 per cent), Dragons (31.1 per cent) and, perhaps most surprisingly, the Warriors (33.3 per cent).

  • #2
    gives grounds for optimism. clearly robbo trains his teams to win the gf. doesn't guarantee we will repeat what we've done the last few years - the boys need to go out and do it

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    • #3
      Sadly those stats just highlight that by semis time in the past 4 years, the team is totally stuffed.
      1985: 1 try vs Parramatta, 1 try vs Manly, 1 try vs Wests, 2 tries vs Souffs
      1986: 2 tries vs Illawarra, 1 try vs Balmain, 2 tries vs Norths.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Carlos Parra View Post
        Sadly those stats just highlight that by semis time in the past 4 years, the team is totally stuffed.
        2020, the team was getting tired before the end of the season going for the 3 peat, being the hunted for a few years and with the rules changes, it got too much.

        2021 we had the majority of the team for more than half the season being reserve graders, felt we overachieved in 2021.

        2022 and 2023 we had to go on crazy winning runs just to make the 8.

        This season we don't have too. I am not saying we will win it, as I am not very confident we can beat the Panthers or Storm based on our recent records. Those clubs have plenty of talent, good systems and representative class players making up their spine, well apart from Kenny at Penrith who is still a very good player and foil for the other 3 members of the Panthers spine.

        Both in 2022 and 2023 we were already redlining at this time of the season. This year we are coming 3rd and probably haven't put together a complete performance for some time so I dont think we will implode in the finals from playing sudden death footy for the prior 6 to 8 weeks. Its just whether we will be good enough to beat those top 2 teams.

        Its more of a mental thing we need to overcome, whereas 2022 and 2023 we had probably blown a head gasket just getting into the finals and Manu in both those years got injured when it really mattered.....

        Fingers crossed the injury gods are kinder to us and we give it a red hot go.....
        Originally posted by Bondi Boy

        Pathetic!
        What a rabble we are.

        Oh well, maybe next year

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        • #5
          They better bring their A Game next Week vs Parra as Parra are looking like a top 2 side so far vs Penrith with 24 to go - Up 26-14

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          • #6
            Never right the champions off.
            What a club Penrith are.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Mickie Lane View Post
              Never right the champions off.
              What a club Penrith are.
              And what an embarrassment the Eels are.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Spirit of 66 View Post

                And what an embarrassment the Eels are.
                Hopefully that post doesnt come back to bite you next Friday night.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Mickie Lane View Post
                  Never right the champions off.
                  What a club Penrith are.
                  You're not wrong; they are an incredible side, but I do find the double standards funny (not specifically from yourself).

                  We concede 34 against a strong Dolphins side, who are competitive with everyone, and after we cop a few injuries, and we're pretenders.
                  The Panthers concede 34 against the second-lowest-ranked team in the comp (without their best player), and they're a championship club for fluking a miracle win.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by King Salvo View Post
                    They better bring their A Game next Week vs Parra as Parra are looking like a top 2 side so far vs Penrith with 24 to go - Up 26-14
                    And didn't that all turn to sh!t?

                    I could swear that there was an Eels player taken out in back play in one of Penrith's last couple of tries. No-one looked at it of course...but if it was an Easts game we all know how much scrutiny there would have been.
                    1985: 1 try vs Parramatta, 1 try vs Manly, 1 try vs Wests, 2 tries vs Souffs
                    1986: 2 tries vs Illawarra, 1 try vs Balmain, 2 tries vs Norths.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Mickie Lane View Post

                      Hopefully that post doesnt come back to bite you next Friday night.
                      That wouldn't invalidate my assertion that Parramatta are an embarrassment. It would just make us more so!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Carlos Parra View Post

                        And didn't that all turn to sh!t?

                        I could swear that there was an Eels player taken out in back play in one of Penrith's last couple of tries. No-one looked at it of course...but if it was an Easts game we all know how much scrutiny there would have been.
                        Yeah I thought it was an obstruction. Not the 1st time the riff have been given a crucial try this season off an obstruction (remember our game?). Even the commentators were saying that the bunker need to review it, but no apparently not. Not taking away from the riff come back (and Parra should have put the game to bed) but it was evident the script was to get the riff the mircle come back. Good for ratings apparently.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by BraveTheWorld View Post

                          You're not wrong; they are an incredible side, but I do find the double standards funny (not specifically from yourself).

                          We concede 34 against a strong Dolphins side, who are competitive with everyone, and after we cop a few injuries, and we're pretenders.
                          The Panthers concede 34 against the second-lowest-ranked team in the comp (without their best player), and they're a championship club for fluking a miracle win.
                          I was thinking exactly the same thing BTW!

                          The agenda of the media is so obvious, but you know what, I don’t really care.

                          It will make our Premiership win that much more sweeter!!

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