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    With our season on life support after a shocking round of injuries, one needs to question our clubs duty of care to our top tier players yesterday.
    Sam Walker has been playing with strapping for most of the year and was probably chasing top point scorer, but at what cost.. he looked like he was being held together yesterday with strapping tape and was it really worth him playing yesterday.

    The issue with Brandon smith really brings this question to light. He had caught friendly fire with Toupou and hurt his knee earlier and came back on heavily strapped. Obviously Whitehead is a goose and played his role in the injury, but at what point do the club medicos and coach go, you know what, we can’t risk any further injuries here to our starting spine, let’s take the low risk option.

    the club gets a lot right, especially with a remarkable tribute yesterday to our emergency workers, I felt really proud to be a rooster yesterday in a beautiful stadium but the incidents yesterday and our continued history of ACL tears in the past 5 years continues to defy logic.
    Last edited by Nigel Gaffey; 09-02-2024, 01:11 PM.

  • #2
    You make good points. I'd like to think there is an internal review of how we handle injuries.

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    • #3
      Let’s add Young to the list. He doesn’t seem to be fit or his usual self in his past 2 games.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Nigel Gaffey View Post
        With our season on life support after a shocking round of injuries, one needs to question our clubs duty of care to our top tier players yesterday.
        Sam Walker has been playing with strapping for most of the year and was probably chasing top point scorer, but at what cost.. he looked like he was being held together yesterday with strapping tape and was it really worth him playing yesterday.
        So in what way was yesterday any different to all the other games that Sammy has played with the same strapping? Let's not over dramatize an unfortunate accident.

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        • #5
          I am sure that if there was a risk of worsening a pre-existing injury that is being managed, then those players would not have played.

          They could have sustained these injuries next game or week 1 of the finals.

          They did say yesterday I recall that the decision was made not to proceed to surgery on Sam Walker's left knee injury (partial ACL tear) in 2023 and they would manage it going forward—hence the tape/strapping. It's a risk, of course, as 50% or so of partial tears progress to full tears.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Waylander View Post

            So in what way was yesterday any different to all the other games that Sammy has played with the same strapping? Let's not over dramatize an unfortunate accident.
            Yesterday he got hurt so it must be the club or coaches fault apparently.

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            • #7
              It's been reported that Victor Radley sustained a fractured scapula -3 to 4 months recovery period - takes a fair bit of force to fracture the scapula


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              • #8
                It's been reported that Victor Radley sustained a fractured scapula -3 to 4 months recovery period - takes a fair bit of force to fracture the scapula
                I know, I broke mine straight down middle in a cycling accident. Hospital couldn't believe it was only think I broke. They said they normally only see them in car accidents.

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                • #9
                  It's a big accusation against the staff at the Roosters.

                  What's your medical background Nigel?

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                  • #10
                    Strapping is a precautionary step that’s applied to anyone with a previous injury. It’s not done cause he’s breaking down. The strapping is an attempt of duty of care.

                    That said I take your points. It’s uncanny to have double ACLs so many times in the last five years. Is there a training load issue? Should we have rested some players at times? It’s easy to say in hindsight but I’m sure the club will do a proper review. Our luck will turn eventually, even if it takes 50 years

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Waylander View Post

                      So in what way was yesterday any different to all the other games that Sammy has played with the same strapping? Let's not over dramatize an unfortunate accident.
                      so what’s your take on B Smith coming back on all taped up after Sammy went down ?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post
                        It's a big accusation against the staff at the Roosters.

                        What's your medical background Nigel?
                        Haha what accusations? I haven’t accused them of being unable to perform their duties but they should be reviewed and in general the clubs approach to end of season matches when a top four position was secured and finals footy and players playing on whilst clearly injured

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Nigel Gaffey View Post
                          With our season on life support after a shocking round of injuries, one needs to question our clubs duty of care to our top tier players yesterday.
                          Sam Walker has been playing with strapping for most of the year and was probably chasing top point scorer, but at what cost.. he looked like he was being held together yesterday with strapping tape and was it really worth him playing yesterday.

                          The issue with Brandon smith really brings this question to light. He had caught friendly fire with Toupou and hurt his knee earlier and came back on heavily strapped. Obviously Whitehead is a goose and played his role in the injury, but at what point do the club medicos and coach go, you know what, we can’t risk any further injuries here to our starting spine, let’s take the low risk option.

                          the club gets a lot right, especially with a remarkable tribute yesterday to our emergency workers, I felt really proud to be a rooster yesterday in a beautiful stadium but the incidents yesterday and our continued history of ACL tears in the past 5 years continues to defy logic.
                          It’s top flight rugby league. Half the competition is playing busted at this time of year. The club revamped the medical department a few years ago. I don’t know whether we are suffering more than others. Only a thorough data analysis of all injuries could justify that claim.

                          the simply fact is we had bad luck and it sucks. To suggest the club would play walker to chase point scoring records is preposterous. As for Smith he an issue and then was the victim of foul play. It should have been a send off and I am glad Robbie had a go at whitehead. Rads and Butcher were just accidents.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by BigCok007 View Post
                            Strapping is a precautionary step that’s applied to anyone with a previous injury. It’s not done cause he’s breaking down. The strapping is an attempt of duty of care.

                            That said I take your points. It’s uncanny to have double ACLs so many times in the last five years. Is there a training load issue? Should we have rested some players at times? It’s easy to say in hindsight but I’m sure the club will do a proper review. Our luck will turn eventually, even if it takes 50 years
                            Strapping also aids in recovery.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by BigCok007 View Post
                              Strapping is a precautionary step that’s applied to anyone with a previous injury. It’s not done cause he’s breaking down. The strapping is an attempt of duty of care.

                              That said I take your points. It’s uncanny to have double ACLs so many times in the last five years. Is there a training load issue? Should we have rested some players at times? It’s easy to say in hindsight but I’m sure the club will do a proper review. Our luck will turn eventually, even if it takes 50 years
                              I'm pretty sure if the pommy grub made a legal tackle it would have only been one ACL yesterday.
                              Cheese had a calf strain not an underlying ACL issue that Walker has been managing.

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