Coaching masterclass

[Swamptrout]

Only storm were able to hang with the penrith juggernaut last night. We would've been pumped by 40 last night unless we can have a 50 point turn around we won't be doing much next year.

[Steggles]

6 agains, when and where they are awarded is at the ref's discretion.
Sorry, game manager's discretion.

Do the Panthers ever lose a penalty count or 6 again count?

To be fair to the Panthers, the Storm were offside for much of the game. They are usually a metre or two ahead of the ref when the ball clears the ruck, sometimes more. There should have been so many more 6-agains in that game against Melbourne. Then you have their techniques for slowing down the ruck which are rarely penalised. Manipulation of the rules is and has always been their go-to.

[milanja]

Pretty much this.

What is anyone supposed to do?

I’d love us to be more competitive. We’re witnessing a once in a lifetime footy team. These Panthers are the best that have ever done it. When they won their second I said they’d win 6 this decade. And it could be even more.

What is scary, is they keep losing players each year, and just keep on winning with new players coming through, the loss of luai and JFH may holt them a bit, but they picked up papalii, and blaize from Parra, so probably more of the same next year.

[ccfc bondi]

Gee, personnel on the field wouldn’t have anything to do with it, would it? Without JWH our pack doesn’t dominate. Collins is always up and down in form, and is best at origin. We could have tried exactly the same tactics as Penrith and wouldn’t have been as effective.

Nicho? Don’t think he’s anyone’s saviour. Trindall is now running the show at the Sharks.

Say what you like about Penrith, our team was MUCH more entertaining to watch than them. In fact, this Penrith team is one of the most boring teams ever to win a premiership!

[caz]

did cleary out-coach bellamy? hard to know what the coach can and can't take credit/blame for in a team sport but that's what happens ...

questions need to be asked about bellamy's big game record - he's lost as many gfs as he's won and he has a 1 in 5 record at origin level. robbo's never coached origin but he has a 100% record at gf level. for all bellamy's record of consistent top 4 finishes and winning in round 1, in the last 13 years he's won the same number of comps as robbo (who won his 3 comps in 12 years).

i'm taking the mickey - bellamy's a great coach - but if it's all about premierships then robbo compares favourably.

how to rate our last 5 years? it is about winning comps so, at one level, we've had 5 years of failure. no getting away from that, but there's different kinds of failure and as far as a period of failure goes ours hasn't been to0 bad. we're one of only 3 teams to make the finals every year and breaking down our results year by year i'd say it was something like this:

2020 good regular season, bad finals campaign
2021 great regular season (given our injuries), fair finals campaign (given our injuries)
2022 fair regular season (made the finals), finals campaign ruined by injury
2023 fair regular season, finals campaign ruined by injury
2024 good regular season, finals campaign affected by injury (hard to win a comp without your starting 9 and 7, but we didn't have the level of injuries we had the previous two years)

[Vasco]

U mean like calling someone a souffs supporter for having desire or wanting someone better for a brighter future? And just because two or more peeps have the same ideas on one particular issue...doesn't mean they are the same person. U are one complete simpleton Salvotard..seriously..lol

U have exposed ur self as a complete goose salvotard. U set the benchmark of winning premierships yet kicked bellyache down while at the same time defend someone to the death for achieving far less. Seriously dude, wake up to yourself.

Back to the question, what solution or idea do u have to improve our situation?

Both me and Eggspert and others have a solution...change the coach. U got nothing and zero cred atm.

I'm open to ideas. Who would you replace him with?

[Vasco]

As someone asked in an earlier post, how would the Storm have gone with Harry Grant and Jerome Hughes out. I'm tipping they would have struggled.

[Mr Whippet]

To be fair to the Panthers, the Storm were offside for much of the game. They are usually a metre or two ahead of the ref when the ball clears the ruck, sometimes more. There should have been so many more 6-agains in that game against Melbourne. Then you have their techniques for slowing down the ruck which are rarely penalised. Manipulation of the rules is and has always been their go-to.

Absolutely, was a blight on the game.

[Arties Pie]

I don’t know as much as alot of others here but what I don’t understand is Robbo was once our defensive coach at a time when we were called the Bondi Wall.. What has happened to us..Storm and Penrith defend the way we used to…It seems to me that all Robbo cares about is attacking plays and players.

[ChookMaster]

I don’t know as much as alot of others here but what I don’t understand is Robbo was once our defensive coach at a time when we were called the Bondi Wall.. What has happened to us..Storm and Penrith defend the way we used to…It seems to me that all Robbo cares about is attacking plays and players.

Robbo excelled at controlling the ruck when it was a much slower tempo. He was great at getting players to wrestle and really get dictate the tempo. Now with the 6 agains we simply cannot control the pace of the game.. it’s too fast so I think he has approached a more attacking mindset in belief that he is keeping up with the times. However with this he has no idea how to get our team to defend the pace of the game. We still haven’t worked that one out.

Penrith excel at both.

[Headless Chook]

I'm open to ideas. Who would you replace him with?

They will tell you that it's not up to them to come up with a replacement, that's Nicks job.

Interesting that when Penrith beat Storm it's an Ivan Cleary coaching master stroke but when we beat them in 2018 it was all because of a player who had little impact on the game other than to be on the field. I'm happy for Robbo to cop criticism and I'm sure he's as disappointed as we are with the way the season played out. It just seems that the anti-Robbo brigade like to have it both ways. If we win, its because of the players and if we lose it's the coaches fault

[Vasco]

Robbo excelled at controlling the ruck when it was a much slower tempo. He was great at getting players to wrestle and really get dictate the tempo. Now with the 6 agains we simply cannot control the pace of the game.. it’s too fast so I think he has approached a more attacking mindset in belief that he is keeping up with the times. However with this he has no idea how to get our team to defend the pace of the game. We still haven’t worked that one out.

Penrith excel at both.

Melbourne seem pretty efficient at controlling the ruck.

[bondi paul]

To be fair to the Panthers, the Storm were offside for much of the game. They are usually a metre or two ahead of the ref when the ball clears the ruck, sometimes more. There should have been so many more 6-agains in that game against Melbourne. Then you have their techniques for slowing down the ruck which are rarely penalised. Manipulation of the rules is and has always been their go-to.

Good post Steggles - may I add the refs know they are in a position not to penalise them as the 2 teams mentioned defence line is always moving unlike Easts. The refs even have trouble with it, prior the 4 premierships there were 2 refs and rule changes to stop the financial behemoth of Easts following back to back. The 6 again drama in 2019 tabloid coverage and Vlandys crying poor during covid when 1 ref re introduced just bullshit. They are cashed up now so why not re introduce it.
Currently the 1 ref is conscious of not blowing the whistle as it’s not in V’Landys best interest of his entertainment strategy. Our penalties are easily sighted unlike other teams especially with a dormant defensive line .

[ChookMaster]

Melbourne seem pretty efficient at controlling the ruck.

Agreed however Penrith out did them there last night. No one does it better

[Carlos Parra]

Your post sums up your lack of knowledge and ideas about the game - Your now saying if they play next week the Storm could win - and oh EPL first past the post get's a run - you seem very confused in what points you are trying to make and making even less sense every post you make - mmm if I won lotto I would be a multi millionaire

Your grammar is appalling.