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Originally posted by Bansai Pipeline View PostHyundai are blue chip but BYD is full on too. The Chinese Government heavily heavily heavily support their EV industry for geo-political reasons. That’s why BYDs and other Chinese EVs are affordable. They’re subsidised to the boo-ya.
Put it this way, our sponsor is way bigger than MG or Crown or TripAdvisor or any other piddling nonsense other clubs have.
Originally posted by dice View Post$60k for a car that can do 0-100km/h in 3.8s with decent accessories is a pretty good deal.
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PS - what's with friends boasting about the fact they're charging their EV by sending me photos of their EVs, along with a message saying 'just charging my car'. Hey look everybody, I just filled up my tank and got a can of Boss coffee in the process [Gangsters Paradise starts playing in the background].
PPS - my cousin just got a brand new engine for his Citroen 2CV and has jigged the carby so that it uses 15% more air. That thing's purring along
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I am the last person to advocate for any Chinese manufacturer but having also lived there, I can tell you that BYD is extremely reputable (also backed in part by Warren Buffett). They started as a battery and components manufacturer a few decades ago and most tech companies the world over use one of their components - I think they recently had a secret project going with Apple and Toyota has now bought their plug in hybrid tech because it is far superior.
Point is, they’re a huge company and having driven a few of their vehicles, they make a pretty damn good car.
Shrewd decision from Uncle Nick - he wouldn’t be backing them if he didn’t see potential.Last edited by Labinator; 10-26-2024, 08:29 AM.
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Originally posted by Labinator View PostI am the last person to advocate for any Chinese manufacturer but having also lived there, I can tell you that BYD is extremely reputable (also backed in part by Warren Buffett). They started as a battery and components manufacturer a few decades ago and most tech companies the world over uses one of their components - I think they recently had a secret project going with Apple and Toyota has now bought their plug in hybrid tech because it is far superior.
Point is, they’re a huge company and having driven a few of their vehicles, they make a pretty damn good car.
Shrewd decision from Uncle Nick - he wouldn’t be backing them if he didn’t see potential.
Tesla was unable to source batteries until they started making all their international cars in China. You can't have a company in China unless it's majority Chinese owned (which will 100% mean that some random CCP dude's been paid off in the process) so go figure...
Wouldn't surprise me if they're simply re-badged Teslas, made in the same factory.Last edited by ism22; 10-26-2024, 08:23 AM.
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Originally posted by ism22 View PostI dunno what a good deal is with EVs to be honest. We know they all have the sports car style speed off the mark. However, unless I win the lottery, I'm simply not in the market for an EV.
The concerns about Chinese EV reliability are misguided. Electric engines are far simpler and much more reliable and durable than combustion engines. This is not like Japan playing catchup and taking many decades to develop more reliable combustion engines. China is the leader in EV mass production.
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Originally posted by dice View Post
When I say "good deal" for MG I mean relative to other brands in terms of package and performance. I don't believe any EV is a good deal at the moment because the resale values are garbage due to battery issues, and recharging infrastructure is not there. It will come eventually. Chinese already shifting towards Sodium Ion which are not flammable and will have more recharge cycles. VW already shifted to multiple smaller battery compartments, so it doesn't cost a fortune to replace one bigass battery.
The concerns about Chinese EV reliability are misguided. Electric engines are far simpler and much more reliable and durable than combustion engines. This is not like Japan playing catchup and taking many decades to develop more reliable combustion engines. China is the leader in EV mass production.
Poor quality, poor safety poor resale. There is so much more to it.
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