Terrell May approached to leave

[Bates]

Why are you singling out Terrell in this case anyway? There were 3-4 players in that room and like I’ve said both club captain and higher ups came out and put it to bed.

Was it a breaking news story? Faaaaark no, it was blown out of proportion by idiots like you on social media…

Come on mate.

You've foiled our plans for the Podcast called ChookMasterBates. Maybe just a speed hump that we could potentially work through together.

[ChookMaster]

You've foiled our plans for the Podcast called ChookMasterBates. Maybe just a speed hump that we could potentially work through together.

I don’t mind you Batesy normally you’re on the mark however there’s a lot of BS cast out there on the social media and I didn’t think you’d actually believe that shite.

Anywho the name needs work for the poddy ol mate. Careful you don’t have a stroke thinking of one.

[Chook2]

IMO it's going to be particularly challenging with Cheese and Walker out. There's not a lot of quality players on the market and I almost wonder whether Robbo's 'give us all 100% or nothing' attitude is leading to burnout.

My problem with this situation is that May's been honest about footy not being the most part of his life. Is there actually a problem with this?

I can relate as 'being a lawyer' is not the most important thing in my life (as much as my employer wishes it was). I have no experience with our culture but would flag it as being a burnout risk if people are being criticised for switching off when they're not in the 'office'. Attitude / disciplinary issues... fine, sack 'em. This May style 'not 100% committed' stuff doesn't sit easy with me when the squad's low on manpower and there's few viable alternatives.

Exactly you need commitment but you also need talent
no one is on 24/7
Send a gun front rower packing and replace him with no one
while we have allready lost 5 key players
and staring the year with another 2 on the sidelines making it 8 from the 17 not available from 2024 and no one to sign

[Chook2]

Most if not all of Terrell May's best performances for us came when he played lock and we are stacked with players who can play that position I'd bet that's another reason why he was moved on: age, he might be 25 but he's not a 25 year old who has years of experience and is building in to his prime, position where other younger players with seemingly more upside can cover 13 and other positions well, and future where he's able to negotiate with rival teams in 12 months time and is it worth putting time in to developing him over youngsters if they're not sure of his long term commitment?

Not quite the point though
if we let every mid 20s old particularly anyone with a couple of years to go on their contract do we let Marky N, dom young, Billy smith, rads, Angus, Lindsay, Leniu, all go as well as they are all off contract in the next few years?
and allow the next potential 20 year old kid to take their spot on potential?

[roosterchook]

Didn’t he also say he wanted play closer to home. He got extra $ and plays for the Tigers. And his timing to talk publicly that he had lost interest in the game often did make our club think twice about keeping him.

[Fishwa]

The one thing that I think is odd about the Terrell May departure, is that we just did it and got nothing in return.

Terrell is at a ripe age to hit his prime, has enough FG games now that its obvious he would have clubs chasing him, so why not negotiate a deal with another club upon his release for a player in return. He went to the Tigers, ok slim pickings there and realistically, they wouldn't part with Api or Galvin - but surely there is a young player or First grader about to come off contract that could have moved the other way.

Just seems odd - we could have had some leverage there to get something in return

[SupermanSupportsEasts4Eva]

The one thing that I think is odd about the Terrell May departure, is that we just did it and got nothing in return.

Terrell is at a ripe age to hit his prime, has enough FG games now that its obvious he would have clubs chasing him, so why not negotiate a deal with another club upon his release for a player in return. He went to the Tigers, ok slim pickings there and realistically, they wouldn't part with Api or Galvin - but surely there is a young player or First grader about to come off contract that could have moved the other way.

Just seems odd - we could have had some leverage there to get something in return

Fair point

[Bates]

The one thing that I think is odd about the Terrell May departure, is that we just did it and got nothing in return.

Terrell is at a ripe age to hit his prime, has enough FG games now that its obvious he would have clubs chasing him, so why not negotiate a deal with another club upon his release for a player in return. He went to the Tigers, ok slim pickings there and realistically, they wouldn't part with Api or Galvin - but surely there is a young player or First grader about to come off contract that could have moved the other way.

Just seems odd - we could have had some leverage there to get something in return

What are your thoughts on a transfer fee system just like the EPL?

I'm surprised V'landys isn't all over it as he could tax it and punters could also bet on it.

[Fishwa]

What are your thoughts on a transfer fee system just like the EPL?

I'm surprised V'landys isn't all over it as he could tax it and punters could also bet on it.

Great Q - there are elements of it that i like, and i think would work in NRL, and elements that wouldnt.

im not sure the open market idea would work in league - mainly cause we have a salary cap, and it would lead to a greater disparity between clubs. It works in soccer cause its a global system, and small clubs can really benefit - not sure if true, but i remember hearing that the Melbourne Club Mark Viduka played for when young, built a grandstand with the money they earnt from his transfer to Celtic.

But off the top of my head - things i think could work in league;

• I think if you want a player under contract at another club, the club buying should pay the other club the entirety of their remaining contract - wouldn't be under the salary cap - but at least the departing club gets something. i also think an element of that money should go to the players junior club
• The above would also mean its a bit more in the club's favor when a player plays the old 'im homesick' card. At least the 2 clubs know what the cost is before the player even starts agitating for a release
• I do like the loan system they have in soccer - im not sure how or if it could work in league, certainly not to the extent it does in soccer, but i think a formal loan system would be great. Maybe something like - all loans are for a full season. a loan can go one way - you dont have to loan a player in return.
• What i think we have to have, like soccer, is transfer windows - i don't know anyone (other than the RLPA) that likes seeing a player play for their club when they have signed up to a season in advance for another club - it's ridiculous. the old reason of 'it gives players time to adjust their life' is BS - they earn enough, and clubs / players get compensated moving costs / have contacts at schools / real estate agents etc - it couldnt be easier. I think there is an easy solution too. Just a rule saying - no player / club can sign elsewhere unless during the offseason (and maybe a mid-year window.) Clubs / players / player agents are not allowed to talk publicly about any movements except in the window. Which basically means - things would happen behind the scenes - fine, it adds to the rumor mill, but because there is no official announcements / signing, there is going to be an element of unknown - which is good. Also means if a player verbally agrees - he cant sign - so technically other clubs could still swoop in. Would also mean the day the window opens - would be a massive day of news - could really leverage it and get great media from it

Just ideas - interested in others thoughts!

[Bates]

Great Q - there are elements of it that i like, and i think would work in NRL, and elements that wouldnt.

im not sure the open market idea would work in league - mainly cause we have a salary cap, and it would lead to a greater disparity between clubs. It works in soccer cause its a global system, and small clubs can really benefit - not sure if true, but i remember hearing that the Melbourne Club Mark Viduka played for when young, built a grandstand with the money they earnt from his transfer to Celtic.

But off the top of my head - things i think could work in league;

• I think if you want a player under contract at another club, the club buying should pay the other club the entirety of their remaining contract - wouldn't be under the salary cap - but at least the departing club gets something. i also think an element of that money should go to the players junior club
• The above would also mean its a bit more in the club's favor when a player plays the old 'im homesick' card. At least the 2 clubs know what the cost is before the player even starts agitating for a release
• I do like the loan system they have in soccer - im not sure how or if it could work in league, certainly not to the extent it does in soccer, but i think a formal loan system would be great. Maybe something like - all loans are for a full season. a loan can go one way - you dont have to loan a player in return.
• What i think we have to have, like soccer, is transfer windows - i don't know anyone (other than the RLPA) that likes seeing a player play for their club when they have signed up to a season in advance for another club - it's ridiculous. the old reason of 'it gives players time to adjust their life' is BS - they earn enough, and clubs / players get compensated moving costs / have contacts at schools / real estate agents etc - it couldnt be easier. I think there is an easy solution too. Just a rule saying - no player / club can sign elsewhere unless during the offseason (and maybe a mid-year window.) Clubs / players / player agents are not allowed to talk publicly about any movements except in the window. Which basically means - things would happen behind the scenes - fine, it adds to the rumor mill, but because there is no official announcements / signing, there is going to be an element of unknown - which is good. Also means if a player verbally agrees - he cant sign - so technically other clubs could still swoop in. Would also mean the day the window opens - would be a massive day of news - could really leverage it and get great media from it

Just ideas - interested in others thoughts!

Good post mate.

[Swamptrout]

Terrell had reached his ceiling and his attitude sucked.

Leniu, Whyte and Wong are all younger, will get more game time and surpass Terrell by the 2025 season years end.

[SamKerrSimp]

The one thing that I think is odd about the Terrell May departure, is that we just did it and got nothing in return.

Terrell is at a ripe age to hit his prime, has enough FG games now that its obvious he would have clubs chasing him, so why not negotiate a deal with another club upon his release for a player in return. He went to the Tigers, ok slim pickings there and realistically, they wouldn't part with Api or Galvin - but surely there is a young player or First grader about to come off contract that could have moved the other way.

Just seems odd - we could have had some leverage there to get something in return

Why would we get anything for him when we are the ones who asked him to leave? What we got was freed up salary cap space and an open spot in the roster

[Rooster_Mark]

What we got was freed up salary cap space and an empty spot in the roster

Corrected for you. I am not sure how having money to spend and no one to spend it on really helps us.

[SamKerrSimp]

Corrected for you. I am not sure how having money to spend and no one to spend it on really helps us.

Of course you're not sure how player development works

[roosterproud]

i cant find Xavier Va'a contract status with us. he has vanished from our player list s in nrl and nsw cup. i was friends with him of FB but his account has closed. I hope he isn't doing his sabbatical. thats 12 months