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    A bold plan to introduce a rookie draft to equalise talent as the competition expands will soon be delivered to the NRL and its clubs.

    A Pathways Steering Committee (PSC) is finalising a list of recommendations relating to the flow of junior talent into the elite level. They include the introduction of a national under-21s competition, regulations relating to when youngsters can engage an agent, and an accreditation scheme for junior coaches.

    However, the topic that will spark most interest is the prospect of implementing a rookie draft, which would signal a radical change in the way promising prospects graduate to the NRL. While the AFL has had a draft for top talent since 1986, attempts to introduce the system to rugby league were short-lived.

    There hasn’t been a draft in rugby league since 1991, when Terry Hill led a successful legal action by 127 players against the NSWRL that resulted in it being abolished. However, the PSC, which includes Roosters coach Trent Robinson, NRL executive Brock Schaefer, Storm general manager Frank Ponissi, Queensland Rugby League chief executive Ben Ikin and Panthers rugby league chief Matt Cameron, is assessing how player movement is regulated at a time when the NRL is looking to eventually expand to a 20-team competition.

    While the salary cap has long been hailed as a successful talent equalisation measure, the divide between the stronger and weaker clubs has never been greater. There have been only three different premiers during the past eight seasons, while Wests Tigers will next year aim to avoid a fourth consecutive wooden spoon and haven’t played a finals game since 2011.

    The PSC met last week and is finalising its recommendations. It will deliver its recommendations at the next meeting of club chief executives with a view to then passing them on for the consideration of the ARL Commission before Christmas. While members of the PSC declined to be quoted while the process was ongoing, this masthead has been told a rookie draft is a key plank in the plan.

    There are a number of different models being floated. Some of the solutions look at tweaks to the contracting model that could equalise talent without introducing a draft. However, a draft remains a primary consideration, one that could lead the NRL to transform it into an event that is commercialised and promoted like several major sporting organisations overseas, particularly in the US.

    Given that a draft would require a teenager to potentially move interstate and overseas, the stakeholders – including the Rugby League Players Association – would want assurances that each club would provide the facilities and support required for them to successfully make the transition. The issue is more relevant than ever given the NRL is looking at introducing new franchises in Papua New Guinea and Perth.

    In a bid to level out the competition, the draft would allow clubs to make a pick from the emerging talent pool: teams at the bottom of the ladder would get the first choice and so on until the premiers made their pick. In a bid to reward clubs that develop players – Penrith are considered to have the best junior nursery in the country – one option is to allow every club to quarantine their best junior from the draft process.

    Another consideration in dispersing talent is putting a cap on how many players can be contracted to any club academy, as well as limiting how much juniors can be paid at each age group. The measure would prevent the strong development clubs from stockpiling players, resulting in them finishing their footballing apprenticeship at another franchise if they are surplus to requirements.

    The other big-ticket item is the potential introduction of a national under-21s competition. It would mark the first such venture since the controversial National Youth Competition (NYC) for under-20s players, which began in 2018 but was disbanded a decade later.

    The under-21s teams would be aligned with NRL clubs and would probably play each other once. However, to keep costs down, it would not mirror the home-and-away NRL draw or necessarily act as a curtain-raiser to first grade matches.

    https://www.theage.com.au/sport/nrl/...=rss_sport_nrl

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    Been down that road before so not sure what the RLPA will make of it and the Clubs - If they agree to this then the NRL might expand the draft to NRL players

    A lot of other things to consider too, i.e., usually when drafted, as far as overseas sports go, the players are owned by those teams for a certain number of years and generally can only sign with other teams when they reach unrestricted free agency.

    In overseas sports where a draft exists, the players eligible for the draft come from either high school or college-based systems, where clubs in those sports don't put money or time into these players.

    So it's no loss to those teams if players are drafted from these systems by other teams as it would be in Rugby League where clubs could put a fair amount of money and time into junior players who could then be drafted by other clubs.

    I can see particular clubs wanting to be compensated for the above

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    • #3
      We have put a LOT of energy, money and time into building a relationship with the Central Coast and establishing a first class youth academy. Why would we do that if they are all just put into a player pool? For that matter, why would other clubs invest in their juniors? I admit I might be missing something here, but I say if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by ccfc bondi View Post
        We have put a LOT of energy, money and time into building a relationship with the Central Coast and establishing a first class youth academy. Why would we do that if they are all just put into a player pool? For that matter, why would other clubs invest in their juniors? I admit I might be missing something here, but I say if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it!
        Don’t entertain it. It’s going to keep talking to itself in this thread as well.
        FVCK CANCER

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        • #5
          Originally posted by rented tracksuit View Post

          Don’t entertain it. It’s going to keep talking to itself in this thread as well.
          Haha

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          • #6
            Originally posted by ccfc bondi View Post
            We have put a LOT of energy, money and time into building a relationship with the Central Coast and establishing a first class youth academy. Why would we do that if they are all just put into a player pool? For that matter, why would other clubs invest in their juniors? I admit I might be missing something here, but I say if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it!
            Wests Tigers have a junior base fast approaching Penrith's numbers but have yet to really tap into it. How will a draft help them in developing more junior players to NRL level players on a consistent basis.

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            • #7
              Would require such a fundamental change to the way the game is run, you can't rely on clubs to fund the junior development model when there is no incentive for them to do so.

              And I don't understand the obsession with equalising talent. The salary cap gives every club the same opportunity and that's all it should do, if clubs **** it up then that's on them.

              I would much rather see Penrith win a 5th in a row because they've set up and invested into a superior pathway system than any other club than see the Wests Tigers, Parramatta Eels & Gold Coast Titans win premierships in the next few years because they were pitied and given first pick of Penriths junior talent when those clubs have run their pathways systems into the ground.

              Rewards for the incompetent.

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              • #8
                Will Junior players be keen to be drafted by PNG which isn't the safest place around - Talk of building a secure compound to house players and their families in if based in PNG does highlight the safety concerns -V'landys mentions tax incentives for players to go there but one assumes there will also be people working on the ground in game development and pathway roles.



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                • #9
                  A rookie draft system doesn't fix front office issues. Poor management is why the Tigers have won 3 consecutive spoons. Good management is why the Panthers have been so successful. Half the Panthers team are middle tier yet they've created a model that works. The other big issue is the quality of NRL coaches. There are 5 or so great coaches. The rest are just punters developing their coaching skills and having a go.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Bates View Post
                    A rookie draft system doesn't fix front office issues. Poor management is why the Tigers have won 3 consecutive spoons. Good management is why the Panthers have been so successful. Half the Panthers team are middle tier yet they've created a model that works. The other big issue is the quality of NRL coaches. There are 5 or so great coaches. The rest are just punters developing their coaching skills and having a go.
                    Yep, this is exactly the issue with the cellar dwellers. Their lack of success has more to do with incompetent and inconsistent management in both the front office and football departments than their juniors.

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                    • #11
                      A further story has emerged about a proposed draft for off contract NRL players as the NRL expansion to a 20 team comp looms ever closer

                      Sattler supports off-contract player draft to boost struggling teams

                      NR legend Scott Sattler has thrown his support behind an off-contract player draft over a rookie draft, as talent equalisation gains renewed focus amid the NRL's ambitious expansion plans toward a 20-team competition.

                      Sattler had argued that a draft for off-contract players would better support struggling clubs, such as the Wests Tigers , by giving them first choice of experienced talent, rather than placing the focus solely on rookies.

                      “I'm a huge fan of a draft for players who are coming off contract. So when November 1 comes, if you haven't re-signed with your existing club, you go into an NRL senior draft … that would even up the competition even more," Sattler said to The Daily Telegraph.

                      “For example, the Wests Tigers finished last this year, so they get the first opportunity to sign someone like Jarome Luia. If they can't afford his minimum asking price, then they have to pass on him and pick someone else and Luai becomes available for the second-last placed team.

                      “I don't see a rookie turning a struggling club around because they might not play NRL for three years.”

                      Under the proposed Senior Player Internal Draft, players with over two years in the NRL would enter the draft if they are off-contract, while rookies could only be included if nominated by their club.

                      Clubs may also nominate contracted players seeking release. Following the season ladder, a two-week trade period would allow clubs to negotiate terms, such as contract value and length, before final selections on draft day.

                      For instance, the Wests Tigers , who finished last this season, would have the first pick under this system, giving them an opportunity to secure a player like Melbourne's Ryan Papenhuyzen.

                      In contrast, the Potential Rookie Draft would focus on emerging talent aged over 18, with clubs allowed to protect their top 2-5 developed players.

                      The draft order would similarly follow the season standings. Advocates argue that this approach could ensure a steady flow of young talent across the league, with QRL chairman Bruce Hatcher highlighting the inefficiencies and high costs of scouting at the junior level.

                      "Trying to predict if a teenager will make it to the NRL at age 14 or 15 is like picking the national lottery," Hatcher said.

                      "A rookie draft could streamline young talent into the NRL clubs more efficiently."

                      Sattler added he sees a draft for off-contract players as the best path forward, especially as the NRL gears up for expansion.

                      He believes it could provide bottom-tier clubs a chance to strengthen their rosters with proven talent, which would help close the gap with competition heavyweights like the Panthers and the Storm.

                      https://www.zerotackle.com/sattler-s...-teams-216628/

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post
                        Would require such a fundamental change to the way the game is run, you can't rely on clubs to fund the junior development model when there is no incentive for them to do so.

                        And I don't understand the obsession with equalising talent. The salary cap gives every club the same opportunity and that's all it should do, if clubs **** it up then that's on them.

                        I would much rather see Penrith win a 5th in a row because they've set up and invested into a superior pathway system than any other club than see the Wests Tigers, Parramatta Eels & Gold Coast Titans win premierships in the next few years because they were pitied and given first pick of Penriths junior talent when those clubs have run their pathways systems into the ground.

                        Rewards for the incompetent.
                        Agreed. I get it that some teams rarely make the 8 and it must suck. However if anything I reckon that leaving the bloody rules alone gives teams the best chance to adjust their systems so that they are more competitive.

                        What can one say about a club like Brisbane that is one season bragging it's got a premiership winning squad and then the next is missing the 8, brigading against our players and possibly having to sack its own for bad behaviour?

                        Not our problem!!! We've had some terrible seasons (e.g. 2009 and 2016)... 2025 is shaping up as a barry crocker as well. There's so many variables within teams' control that they should be considering before asking for a rule change that would give them dibs on talented rookies (and take away the current incentive of developing them in-house).

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ism22 View Post

                          Agreed. I get it that some teams rarely make the 8 and it must suck. However if anything I reckon that leaving the bloody rules alone gives teams the best chance to adjust their systems so that they are more competitive.

                          What can one say about a club like Brisbane that is one season bragging it's got a premiership winning squad and then the next is missing the 8, brigading against our players and possibly having to sack its own for bad behaviour?

                          Not our problem!!! We've had some terrible seasons (e.g. 2009 and 2016)... 2025 is shaping up as a barry crocker as well. There's so many variables within teams' control that they should be considering before asking for a rule change that would give them dibs on talented rookies (and take away the current incentive of developing them in-house).
                          That’s a good point. In fact, if they really want to create some equity, they should dump the six- again rule and give teams the opportunity to get onside. ATM, the team that plays the ball the quickest wins.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ccfc bondi View Post

                            That’s a good point. In fact, if they really want to create some equity, they should dump the six- again rule and give teams the opportunity to get onside. ATM, the team that plays the ball the quickest wins.
                            I know, and you've got to be a master of the dark arts to know what the refs allow and don't allow to get that edge.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ccfc bondi View Post

                              That’s a good point. In fact, if they really want to create some equity, they should dump the six- again rule and give teams the opportunity to get onside. ATM, the team that plays the ball the quickest wins.
                              And go back to a stop start game of 20 odd penalties a game - Not going to happen.

                              Things they could look at is the play the ball where players usually just roll the ball backwards - hardly any player plays the ball backwards with their foot

                              The rule is “place the ball on the ground, and make a genuine attempt to play the ball with the foot while maintaining balance

                              Certain teams jump the gun as far as clearing the ruck goes - D Line moving forward before the ball is clear of the Ruck - Storm and Penrith are prime examples of this

                              The rule is - The Referee will call “go” when the ball is clear of the ruck and then the defensive line is entitled to move forward.

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