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Robbo knew better than Bellamy trying to turn a bench hooker into a starter. Robbo knew better than Cleary trying to turn a bench prop into a starter. Still not as bad as trying to turn Angus into the best centre in the world. I wouldn't be blaming the players for someone else's pipedream.
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Originally posted by Qld Chook View PostI'll be very surprised if Cows let Robson go however if he does want to come back to Sydney I'd happily have him. Absolute gun. Would be chasing a similar sized contract to what the Cheese is reportedly on ($850K), potentially more.
Other lower value players id be keeping an eye on is Jayden Brailey & Brendan Hands.
If Brailey has all his bad injury luck out of the way and can string games together, signing him on $400-$500K would we worth a shot. Brendan Hands wouldn't command any more than that and from the glimpses I've seen of him he looks classy.
makes more sense to why we may at least offer hunt a big 2 year deal as well - not that it’s long term but it will cover 2026
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Originally posted by HunchoRooster View PostEverybody, objectively, where does he rank amongst our worst ever signings? Noting he was a marquee signing so should be graded as such.
I know it's not over yet but keep in kind he is out for most of next season with a double knee injury and short of him coming back for 10 games and leading us to a premiership, he has gotta go down as one of the biggest disappointments in our great history.
I say this as someone who likes Brandon as a player and seems a decent person.
I don’t know what happened in 2022 as he was dally m hooker of the year in 2021
just gets gassed to quickly
don’t think it will be the worst but it certainly won’t be a Cronk SBW, Teddy signing
im just looking forward but also hoping we nail the replacement $ wise
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Originally posted by On the Nose View PostRobbo knew better than Bellamy trying to turn a bench hooker into a starter. Robbo knew better than Cleary trying to turn a bench prop into a starter. Still not as bad as trying to turn Angus into the best centre in the world. I wouldn't be blaming the players for someone else's pipedream.
Spencer Leniu - a lot of forwards start off as interchange players and Penrith did had 2 or 3 handy props as starters during his time at Penrith - It took JWH 2 seasons to become a regular starting prop for the Roosters - 2012
Who was trying to turn Angus into the best centre in the world?
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With smith leaving end of 2025 including May that will be close to $5m in cap gone in 2 seasons
a lot of money but there is huge pressure to get the 1-2 key singings right
and also a chance if a rookie steps up they might be in for a good pay rise
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Originally posted by King Salvo View PostA Chance to go with the youth and have them primed to shine and hungry for success.
A stack of those Penrith players when they came into NRL were not on big money, but over time via contract extensions, they are reaping the financial rewards of their hard work.
Dylan Edwards, for example: on 200k or thereabouts, then went to 450k and now 850k.
Whereas Walsh jumps from 450k a season to a 4-year, $1.250 million a season contract—is he going to work hard on his game prep and on match day when on such money?
Already making big money, so what's his incentive now—very much risk and reward with players on such big money.
Jason Taumalolo, for example, has not been the same player he was after signing his 10-year, one million-a-season contract.
Need to dangle that carrot ($$$$) in front of players so they work for it instead of giving it to them on a platter and not having to work for it.
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Originally posted by Funky Chicken View Post
I agree with most of what you have said, but I don't think Jason Taumalolo is the best example to use. He was a beast performing at elite levels every year until Todd 'smiley' Payten became the Cowboys coach. Payten decided to change the way he played, where he played and reduced his minutes which had a really negative impact on him and his form. He also has a degenerative disease in his knees which has also had an impact on him.
taumololo was the greatest running mrt eater forward and he tried to turn him back to just a standard front row rotation
you only had to see the way he played for Tonga again on the weekend making 200mtr
at another club he would be better and he is several seasons in now so at least the first 5 before payten he was still performing
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Gee.. another inspiring media article heading into next year.
Just what the club needs to bring a new young team together for 2025.
With B.Smith likely missing at least 1/2 of next year can you really see him motivated & excited to rip in on his return with this news?
IMO I can already feel 2025 is going to be a shocker.
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Originally posted by Eggspert View PostGee.. another inspiring media article heading into next year.
Just what the club needs to bring a new young team together for 2025.
With B.Smith likely missing at least 1/2 of next year can you really see him motivated & excited to rip in on his return with this news?
IMO I can already feel 2025 is going to be a shocker.
Would you feel the same way if Bellamy was our coach or Ivan?
They manage to find no names and young kids to step up, why can't we.
Rather than buying big names and turning them into average players...let's try the opposite next year.
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Originally posted by HunchoRooster View PostEverybody, objectively, where does he rank amongst our worst ever signings? Noting he was a marquee signing so should be graded as such.
I know it's not over yet but keep in kind he is out for most of next season with a double knee injury and short of him coming back for 10 games and leading us to a premiership, he has gotta go down as one of the biggest disappointments in our great history.
I say this as someone who likes Brandon as a player and seems a decent person.
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