Trent Robinson interview - SEN

[King Salvo]

There was an article back in August claiming he'd signed. I'm glad he's staying, from what I've seen he looks a genuine talent. He was one of the main reasons our reserve grade finished the season so well.

Have a ton of halves on the books going forward such as Hugo Savala, Jake Elliot , Toby Rodwell and Reece Foley.

People may not be aware that Jake Elliot started his junior rep career as a second rower in the Andrew Johns Cup for the Central Coast Roosters ( Under 16's).

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=642890340096797

[Eggspert]

To me Robbo's interviews & comments don't mean that much anymore. It's just gobbly gook from a coach who's been here too long.

The May "doesn't suit our style of play" comment is just bizarre.The way the whole saga played out was piss poor.

The 16 tries conceded in 3 finals games & being easy meat for Panthers & Storm was telling without even mentioning the 1 - 24 record against them last 5yrs tells me enough of our "style of play"

Me thinks that Robbo's "style of play doesn't suit" the Roosters anymore.

[Rooster90]

Have a ton of halves on the books going forward such as Hugo Savala, Jake Elliot , Toby Rodwell and Reece Foley.

People may not be aware that Jake Elliot started his junior rep career as a second rower in the Andrew Johns Cup for the Central Coast Roosters ( Under 16's).

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=642890340096797

I can see Jake Elliot starting his NRL career in the centres tbh, has a bit of Matt Burton & Jack Wighton about him.

[King Salvo]

To me Robbo's interviews & comments don't mean that much anymore. It's just gobbly gook from a coach who's been here too long.

The May "doesn't suit our style of play" comment is just bizarre.The way the whole saga played out was piss poor.

The 16 tries conceded in 3 finals games & being easy meat for Panthers & Storm was telling without even mentioning the 1 - 24 record against them last 5yrs tells me enough of our "style of play"

Me thinks that Robbo's "style of play doesn't suit" the Roosters anymore.

mmm the Roosters have only missed the finals once under Coach Robinson so the comment that Coach Robinsons ' style of play doesn't suit the Roosters anymore" has no legs as obviously it does to make the play offs the majority of those years - 2013 to 2024.

It's not just about the now it's also about the future as well when assembling a 30 player roster under a salary cap.

The Va'a brothers and Blake Steep are long term NRL Players and will get their chance to shine as will a host of other youngsters in 2025 and beyond.

May is very iffy on whether he wants to play or not as he said and in any case come November 1 2025 he would be free to negotiate with other clubs so no guarantee he would stay past 2026 in any case.

May received a significant pay rise as a result so best he concentrates on his new club and the extra cash he will receive.

May's Roosters contract was 2 years - 900k
May's Tigers contract is 3 years - 2 million

Parramatta have the best record of any team vs both Penrith and Storm but have zilch to show for it.

Brisbane have only beaten Storm 7 times all up since Storm came into the comp in 1998 and they have had some pretty fair sides during that period.

Storm were no match vs Penrith in the GF with Penrith basically in 3rd gear as they had the Storm more than covered.

Penrith have been the best team these past 5 years without any doubt - a hiccup in the 2020 GF the only blemish - certainly learnt from that to win the next 4 comps in a row.

There is not only a gap between Penrith and the other teams but also a gap between Penrith and the so called other big 2 team in the Storm.

[HunchoRooster]

mmm the Roosters have only missed the finals once under Coach Robinson so the comment that Coach Robinsons ' style of play doesn't suit the Roosters anymore" has no legs as obviously it does to make the play offs the majority of those years - 2013 to 2024.

It's not just about the now it's also about the future as well when assembling a 30 player roster under a salary cap.

The Va'a brothers and Blake Steep are long term NRL Players and will get their chance to shine as will a host of other youngsters in 2025 and beyond.

May is very iffy on whether he wants to play or not as he said and in any case come November 1 2025 he would be free to negotiate with other clubs so no guarantee he would stay past 2026 in any case.

May received a significant pay rise as a result so best he concentrates on his new club and the extra cash he will receive.

May's Roosters contract was 2 years - 900k
May's Tigers contract is 3 years - 2 million

Parramatta have the best record of any team vs both Penrith and Storm but have zilch to show for it.

Brisbane have only beaten Storm 7 times all up since Storm came into the comp in 1998 and they have had some pretty fair sides during that period.

Storm were no match vs Penrith in the GF with Penrith basically in 3rd gear as they had the Storm more than covered.

Penrith have been the best team these past 5 years without any doubt - a hiccup in the 2020 GF the only blemish - certainly learnt from that to win the next 4 comps in a row.

There is not only a gap between Penrith and the other teams but also a gap between Penrith and the so called other big 2 team in the Storm.

Your analysis is myopic and doesn't account for the fact Melbourne beat Penriff twice this season, home and away. We haven't beaten Penriff anywhere in the last 10+ outings and I'd shudder to see the aggregate score in those games.

The Panthers were too good on GF day and are the best team in the comp but Melbourne are a heck of a lot closer to stopping them than we are. Sadly I think a few other teams might be aswell.

[MKCS]

mmm the Roosters have only missed the finals once under Coach Robinson so the comment that Coach Robinsons ' style of play doesn't suit the Roosters anymore" has no legs as obviously it does to make the play offs the majority of those years - 2013 to 2024.

Only missed the finals once but each season apart from this past season has been a massive underperformance. This year we did make the prelim which would've been the absolute minimum acceptable but despite making it we got pumped by 30 points and were never really in the fight.

We aren't a team that should be happy just to make up the numbers in a final, I think since 2020 we've been happy to do that.

[King Salvo]

Your analysis is myopic and doesn't account for the fact Melbourne beat Penriff twice this season, home and away. We haven't beaten Penriff anywhere in the last 10+ outings and I'd shudder to see the aggregate score in those games.

The Panthers were too good on GF day and are the best team in the comp but Melbourne are a heck of a lot closer to stopping them than we are. Sadly I think a few other teams might be aswell.

Beating a side in regular season games doesn't give you any advantage come finals times - Storm are 0 - 3 in Finals games vs Penrith since their last finals win in 2020.

Not sure what other teams are getting closer - Fitzy was saying the Sharks were getting closer in only losing by 20 in week 3 of the finals - previous 3 or so games they didn't score a point against Penrith - that game they scored 6. - Even Sharks fans rolled their eyes over that comment - thought the same in Penrith not having to get out of third gear and having the Sharks more than covered. - Ditto GF vs Storm

[King Salvo]

Only missed the finals once but each season apart from this past season has been a massive underperformance. This year we did make the prelim which would've been the absolute minimum acceptable but despite making it we got pumped by 30 points and were never really in the fight.

We aren't a team that should be happy just to make up the numbers in a final, I think since 2020 we've been happy to do that.

You have to take injuries into account as well though- As someone posted it's been a long time since the Roosters have been able to field their best 17 even for one game - always players out either injured/suspended.

There was an article about that too

Roosters haven’t fielded a full-strength team since 2019 grand final

The Roosters haven’t fielded a full-strength team since the 2019 grand final, a shocking injury and suspension sequence coach Trent Robinson described as “wild”. See the numbers inside.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...9edccb16a9?amp

The Sydney Roosters have been unable to field their best side for nearly five years, prompting coach Trent Robinson to describe his club’s astonishing injury and suspension sequence as “wild.”

They won’t seek reasons for not having won a grand final over the past four years but here’s a doozy of an excuse.

Fox Sports Lab has revealed the last time Sydney Roosters actually played with a full strength side was the 2019 grand final.

Over the next four seasons and four rounds, the Roosters have been without top-line players for 466 games through injury and suspension.

Despite this, the Roosters have finished in week two of the finals three times and week one once during that time.

Who knows whether Penrith would have experienced such grand final dominance had the Roosters been at full tilt?

And the Roosters won’t be back to their best until at least round ten, when prop Spencer Leniu return from suspension.

Fox Sports Lab compiled the best players from each season before revealing the number of games each has missed.

No other club in the NRL has endured such a horrific long-term injury run.

Robinson was stunned when told, saying: “Look, I didn’t know that but that’s what it’s felt like at different times.

“It’s been wild at different times, the guys that have been in and out over the last few years. We have twice had two ACL’s in the one game. We’ve had punctured lungs, concussions. We’ve had suspensions.

“I have felt really proud with how the guys have adapted, a lot of the time.

“It would be nice to get a run where we get 1 to 17 week on week and we’d like to keep players on the field more.

“We want to get our team on the field and perform better than what we’ve done in the last few years. We’ve had our reasons and it felt like we could have been better.

“We think if we can get our best players on the field then we can play well this year.”

Aside from Leniu, Roosters prop Lindsay Collins has a hamstring injury and remains in doubt for a game against Canterbury this Friday night at Accor Stadium.

Robinson said injuries weren’t always about “bad luck.”

“Whether it’s been through injury or suspension, we’ve got a role to play in that,” he said

“I don’t think they are just accidents, I don’t think all injuries are just by chance. The way that you prepare players, the way they prepare themselves, if you just say it’s not our fault then you can’t do anything about it.

“Whereas I feel you’ve got to take some responsibility and try to improve the way you’re doing things.

“We all know some things do happen and we can’t control them but if you just say you can’t control any of them then you’re not going to improve the way that you train or prepare.”

ROOSTERS' INJURY WOES


Games missed by top-17 players
2020: 89
2021: 148
2022: 83
2023: 139
2024: 7 ( Incomplete)
TOTAL: 466 weeks

Breakdown:

2020: 89
15: Victor Radley
15: Sam Verrills
9: Boyd Cordner (injury-forced retirement)
7: Angus Crichton
7: Daniel Tupou
5: Mitch Aubusson
5: Brett Morris
4: Jared Waerea-Hargreaves
3: Lindsay Collins
3: Jake Friend
3: Isaac Lui
3: Josh Morris
3: James Tedesco
2: Kyle Flanagan
2: Luke Keary
2: Siosiua Taukeiaho
1: Joey Manu

2021: 154
25: Jake Friend (injury-forced retirement)
23: Luke Keary
20: Lindsay Collins
19: Brett Morris
12: Sam Verrills
10: Victor Radley
7: Nat Butcher
6; Drew Hutchison
6: Angus Crichton
6: Josh Morris
5: Lachlan Lam
4: James Tedesco
3: Joey Manu
3: Jared Waerea-Hargreaves
3: Siosiua Taukeiaho
2: Sitili Tupouniua

2022: 83
18: Billy Smith
10: Sam Verrills
9: Lindsay Collins
9: Sitili Tupouniua
7: Siosiua Taukeiaho
6: Victory Radley
6: Joseph Suaalii
5: Jared Waerea-Hargreaves
3: Luke Keary
3: Daniel Tupou
4: Connor Watson
2: Joey Manu
1: James Tedesco

2023: 139
24: Connor Watson (season)
18: Sitili Tupouniua
16: Sam Walker
13: Angus Crichton
11: Billy Smith
8: Daniel Tupou
8: Jared-Waerea-Hargreaves
5: Egan Butcher
5: Joey Manu
5: Victor Radley
5: Brandon Smith
5: Joseph Suaalii
4: Matthew Lodge
4: James Tedesco
2: Nat Butcher
1: Lindsay Collins

2024: 7 ( Incomplete)
8: Spencer Lenui – 8 (served 3)
2: Angus Crichton
1: Lindsay Collins
1: Luke Keary
1: Jared Waerea-Hargreaves
1: Dominic Young