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  • #16
    It’s hard to say without knowing the true potential of our development list but Brown is a genuine strike player and would look outstanding next to Walker in RWB.

    A 2026 spine of; Teddy, Brown, Walker, Robson is incredibly strong and could challenge for a premiership.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post
      I think he would be a very good signing and there's no doubt we could afford him but if we're serious about developing our own talent then we need to show a little more patience. Fittler, Anasta, Carney, Maloney, Keary... It's about time we started developing some 5/8's of our own.
      Do you like winning premierships? Who was the last home grown 6 to win us a comp? Premierships are there to be bought. Every club is attempting to buy one. It’s the way today. Business.

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      • #18
        Western bears or png will give him 1.2 mil
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Thirteen View Post

          Do you like winning premierships? Who was the last home grown 6 to win us a comp? Premierships are there to be bought. Every club is attempting to buy one. It’s the way today. Business.
          When is the last time we genuinely attempted to? It's like saying Donald Trump only gets pussy with a terrible haircut... yeh no shit because he's never had a decent one.

          You're talking about a correlation, not a causation. It would be no different to me saying the last 4 premierships have been won by a home grown halves pairing, it just doesn't mean much because it's what both clubs do. We've had Jahrome Hughes & Jamie Soward in our pathways... you can't even argue there hasn't been premiership winning talent to be backed over the years.

          What we do know is that good internal pathways are essential to consistent, long term high performance and are more conducive to providing strong levels of depth. It's a bit sad but in the salary cap environment the greatest competitive advantage is who can stockpile the best young talent in the game. Melbourne are the best at it, Penrith have gotten better and we've been pretty good at it in patches but we dropped off post POS.

          We've been able to attract some of the best young halves in the game over the last few years, to go and sign a gun over the top of them now would be a terrible message to send to any young talent out there.

          Anyway there's many good reasons why we signed Toby Rodwell to a 4yr contract and just signed his older brother. The club are all in on this kid, I can't see us signing Dylan Brown.

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          • #20
            I do genuinely think he is overrated, but I wouldn't be against the signing for the right price. That being said, with all the young-gun halves on our books, you would probably expect one of them to kick on which would be the ideal situation.

            Last I heard was that Arthur was probably going to coach the Perth team, and people expected him to target Brown.

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            • #21
              He can have a blinder but he only had a few good games a year in him
              not for the money he will command on the open market
              we have our creative running half with walker
              let sandon smith, Elliot and rodwell be the other halves option

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Vasco View Post
                After what he did to Hutcho I'm not sure I could stomach him wearing the tricolours.
                Exactly my thoughts to .

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Chook2 View Post
                  He can have a blinder but he only had a few good games a year in him
                  not for the money he will command on the open market
                  we have our creative running half with walker
                  let sandon smith, Elliot and rodwell be the other halves option
                  Elliot is the long term #6 IMO
                  The kid has it

                  Sandon played all his juniors at #1 and could develop there long term, potentially
                  Haven't seen enough of Rodwell

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post

                    When is the last time we genuinely attempted to?It's like saying Donald Trump only gets pussy with a terrible haircut... yeh no shit because he's never had a decent one.

                    You're talking about a correlation, not a causation. It would be no different to me saying the last 4 premierships have been won by a home grown halves pairing, it just doesn't mean much because it's what both clubs do. We've had Jahrome Hughes & Jamie Soward in our pathways... you can't even argue there hasn't been premiership winning talent to be backed over the years.

                    What we do know is that good internal pathways are essential to consistent, long term high performance and are more conducive to providing strong levels of depth. It's a bit sad but in the salary cap environment the greatest competitive advantage is who can stockpile the best young talent in the game. Melbourne are the best at it, Penrith have gotten better and we've been pretty good at it in patches but we dropped off post POS.

                    We've been able to attract some of the best young halves in the game over the last few years, to go and sign a gun over the top of them now would be a terrible message to send to any young talent out there.

                    Anyway there's many good reasons why we signed Toby Rodwell to a 4yr contract and just signed his older brother. The club are all in on this kid, I can't see us signing Dylan Brown.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Thirteen View Post

                      Do you like winning premierships? Who was the last home grown 6 to win us a comp? Premierships are there to be bought. Every club is attempting to buy one. It’s the way today. Business.
                      The days of the so called buying a premierships days are long gone - It very rarely worked even in the old days.

                      Only need to look at Penrith - mostly home grown players with strategic signings when required.
                      Last edited by King Salvo; 01-15-2025, 08:51 PM.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post

                        When is the last time we genuinely attempted to? It's like saying Donald Trump only gets pussy with a terrible haircut... yeh no shit because he's never had a decent one.

                        You're talking about a correlation, not a causation. It would be no different to me saying the last 4 premierships have been won by a home grown halves pairing, it just doesn't mean much because it's what both clubs do. We've had Jahrome Hughes & Jamie Soward in our pathways... you can't even argue there hasn't been premiership winning talent to be backed over the years.

                        What we do know is that good internal pathways are essential to consistent, long term high performance and are more conducive to providing strong levels of depth. It's a bit sad but in the salary cap environment the greatest competitive advantage is who can stockpile the best young talent in the game. Melbourne are the best at it, Penrith have gotten better and we've been pretty good at it in patches but we dropped off post POS.

                        We've been able to attract some of the best young halves in the game over the last few years, to go and sign a gun over the top of them now would be a terrible message to send to any young talent out there.

                        Anyway there's many good reasons why we signed Toby Rodwell to a 4yr contract and just signed his older brother. The club are all in on this kid, I can't see us signing Dylan Brown.
                        Pathways are great and necessary but really how many of these guys will actually make it and become premiership winners. I’m all for buying premierships. All clubs want to be in the market when players become available. I want more premierships now. We aren’t getting any younger. I hope we are in the market for every decent player who comes on the market.

                        if Nathan Cleary wants to come East, will you reject him based on the fact that it might piss off the Rodwell kid?
                        Last edited by Thirteen; 01-15-2025, 08:19 PM.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Vasco View Post
                          After what he did to Hutcho I'm not sure I could stomach him wearing the tricolours.
                          Yeh should have been sent off for injuring the Roosters Crowd Favourite the Mercurial Hutchinator with knees to the ribs - broken ribs and collapsed lung is a pretty serious injury and the Hutchinator was in hospital three times as a result.

                          https://www.nine.com.au/sport/nrl/ro...07-p5isjg.html

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Thirteen View Post

                            Pathways are great and necessary but really how many of these guys will actually make it and become premiership winners. I’m all for buying premierships. All clubs want to be in the market when players become available. I want more premierships now. We aren’t getting any younger. I hope we are in the market for every decent player who comes on the market.

                            if Nathan Cleary wants to come East, will you reject him based on the fact that it might piss off the Rodwell kid?
                            Not sure how it can be determined that any player would be a premiership winning player from any pathway system as its a 17 player game not a one player game for starters - maybe you can explain how this is determined and what coaches look for - KPI's etc that would determine this so called premiership winning player from any pathway system.

                            The pathways is not about producing premiership winning players it's about producing players to be NRL standard players - 17 player game

                            Look at Penrith the only non Penrith Pathway premiership winning back these past 4 premierships was Paul Momirovski - ditto most of their forwards as well - How many clubs would be clambering to sign Luke Garner and Scott Sorenson - both came from clubs who were never in the hunt to win a premiership - Garner (Wests Tigers) and Sorenson ( Cronulla Sutherland Sharks).





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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Thirteen View Post

                              Pathways are great and necessary but really how many of these guys will actually make it and become premiership winners. I’m all for buying premierships. All clubs want to be in the market when players become available. I want more premierships now. We aren’t getting any younger. I hope we are in the market for every decent player who comes on the market.

                              if Nathan Cleary wants to come East, will you reject him based on the fact that it might piss off the Rodwell kid?
                              Nathan Cleary is generational, there will always be that exception.

                              It's not so much about pissing off one kid because there's no guarantees with any one kid but rather about committing to the vision of being a development club and part of that is young aspirational players know that if they come to your club there will be opportunities and there is a proven track record of success of development. There's a reason why Melbourne just seem to have an endless production line of young kids waiting for their opportunity and it's because there's trust in that system that they won't just go out and but a star player and block their path to first grade. Harry Grant is happy to sit behind a Cam Smith, Sua Fa'alago is happy to sit behind a Papenhuyzen... that just doesn't happen anywhere else.

                              They're not just setting themselves up for success this year but for every year. We on the other hand seem to require these rebuilding years on the regular and when we have massive injury tolls we don't have the depth to back fill those position or expose young promising juniors so that's why I'm a fan of the clubs decision and direction.

                              I'm also not fundamentally or philosophically against the idea of be being a buying club but if we're going to be that then we need to stop flirting with the idea of being a development club.

                              In this instance I hope the clubs sticks with there guns for better or worse because I think it'll all pay off in the long run.

                              So a no to me on Dylan Brown but a Nathan Cleary or a position where there is no internal talent coming through is a discussion I'm always willing to entertain.

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                              • #30
                                He likes the Golden Sheath, he's a groper
                                I think Manly will make a big play for him to replace DCE

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