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  • #31
    Originally posted by Batemans Bay Rooster View Post

    What would he do? He'd sack them, as he has made very clear. What "goes on in social circles" is irrelevant to his position. He's not an idiot, I'm sure he's quite aware that drugs are commonplace amongst a good proportion of society. These players are highly paid professional athletes, and he's taking a position that reflects the values of the club. His club. If the players want to still partake behind closed doors, they can take that risk. But if they get caught, they're gone. Don't say you weren't warned.
    Yeah, I get that, but he also believes winning is good for business. If two or three of his star players are racking up lines he'll think twice about risking the on-field performance of the team.

    And if he is so aware of this, why is he taking this stance now? I know for a fact that this has been rife at Bondi Junction, and every other club, for decades now.
    Born and bred in the eastern suburbs.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Bates View Post

      Do you feel the same way about alcohol?
      Top question Bates. But would you expect any lesser comment from Mr. (google) know all.

      This I have taken from Quora by someone by the name of Jim Donaldson. I thought he articulated the drug question very well.

      Because doing drugs is one of the most effective ways of escaping reality.

      The real question is why have we let our society get to the point that so many people are feeling the need to escape reality?

      For that, we need to look deeper.

      Why do children get abused?

      Why do people get raped?

      How is elder abuse a thing?

      Why is there terrorism?

      Why do we hate?

      Why cant we stop bullying?

      Why do people go bankrupt?

      Why is there cheating?

      Why do people lie?

      Why does poverty still exist?

      Why do people die at inconvenient times?

      There are many more questions that can be asked. The point is that some peoples realities can be a fearful, painful, sorrowful, lonely, unfair, miserable place. Some people, for one reason or another, dont see a lot of positives in life; their existence is nothing but pain. If the reality of your existence is feeling nothing but physical, mental and emotional pain; we would all want to escape that, even if just for a little while.

      Drugs are the single most effective way to escape those feelings on a short term basis. Every addict on the planet knows this. Every doctor and pharmacist on the planet knows this.

      If we want people to stop using drugs to escape reality; we need to change their reality, or at least their perception of reality. If that doesn't change — nothing will.
      "Do you expect me to talk"? "No, Mr. Bond, I expect you to die".

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Vasco View Post

        Yeah, I get that, but he also believes winning is good for business. If two or three of his star players are racking up lines he'll think twice about risking the on-field performance of the team.

        And if he is so aware of this, why is he taking this stance now? I know for a fact that this has been rife at Bondi Junction, and every other club, for decades now.
        What so because something wasn't done in the past, it should now never be done? Old Chinese proverb Vasco - The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is today.

        And as far as him not following through on his promise if someone is caught, I think he's done more than enough for all of us and in his business life to not be second guessed about whether or not he will do what he says he will do.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Bansai Pipeline View Post
          Madness. There goes the roster.

          The old Billionaire is completely out of touch with reality.
          100%
          Born and bred in the eastern suburbs.

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          • #35
            Other than the Christians, and even then, they all do bag. The entire NRL.

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            • #36
              In any event, there's the Tyrell May explanation.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Bansai Pipeline View Post
                Other than the Christians, and even then, they all do bag. The entire NRL.
                Quite ironic in a sense Bansai that you and I are having this conversation...

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Batemans Bay Rooster View Post

                  Quite ironic in a sense Bansai that you and I are having this conversation...
                  Fark your knives are sharp at the moment. Your holiday did you the world of good.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by King Salvo View Post
                    Never taken drugs of any sort and never will - not sure why people do - They can't face reality I assume.
                    I’m with ya on this one Sally. Weak individuals take drugs.
                    FVCK CANCER

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Bates View Post

                      Do you feel the same way about alcohol?
                      I do, yes.
                      FVCK CANCER

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Batemans Bay Rooster View Post

                        If you have never consumed drugs, any conclusion you draw or assumption you make as to why others have have consumed them ie "they can't face reality", is clearly worthless.
                        Nope it comes from medical professionals who deal with it day in and day out including my Wife who is a GP in having to deal with those dependant on drugs - a host develop mental health issues as a result of their drug consumption and dependency over many years.

                        What do you think such drug use does to peoples brains and also to the children born to these drug addicts - drug babies is the term used - they can suffer impaired growth, birth defects, and altered brain development.



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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by SupermanSupportsEasts4Eva View Post
                          I like the message it sends. Atm coke is illegal and as such players shouldn't be using it. I personally would understand if a star player was punted. Sure, I might be disappointed, but we would soon sign a replacement. No one is bigger than the club. And comps are won by clubs with strong cultures.
                          Hear no evil, see no evil.

                          So The Big Dog chose to tolerate the sniff in premiership years gone by but now, he's taking a moral stance!

                          There were plenty of star players he would have had to sacrificially punt in 2002 and 2013.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by King Salvo View Post

                            Nope it comes from medical professionals who deal with it day in and day out including my Wife who is a GP in having to deal with those dependant on drugs - a host develop mental health issues as a result of their drug consumption and dependency over many years.

                            What do you think such drug use does to peoples brains and also to the children born to these drug addicts - drug babies is the term used - they can suffer impaired growth, birth defects, and altered brain development.


                            I like the SouthPark episode about Crack Babies.
                            FVCK CANCER

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by King Salvo View Post

                              Nope it comes from medical professionals who deal with it day in and day out including my Wife who is a GP in having to deal with those dependant on drugs - a host develop mental health issues as a result of their drug consumption and dependency over many years.

                              What do you think such drug use does to peoples brains and also to the children born to these drug addicts - drug babies is the term used - they can suffer impaired growth, birth defects, and altered brain development.
                              Yep... all the psychiatrists and lawyers I know who work on mental health tribunals tell me that drugs are the #1 reason why people end up with cooked brains.

                              Unlike tobacco and alcohol, there's no established body of evidence to prove every little thing about every drug out there. However, it's either a massive coincidence that close to 100% of people being scheduled into mental health facilities use drugs, or they play a role in triggering mental illness.

                              When I worked in prisons (as a teacher), various students (all addicts) would pretty much be like 'bro I really appreciate your education but I can't retain anything ay... I've used drugs since I was 12 and my brain's cooked... I don't understand or remember much stuff ay... it comes in but that's all'. The advice I received from treating doctors and psych nurses was that this was legit... they all had brain injuries from their drug usage.

                              Matt Lodge did an interview on James Graham's poddie where he (IMO truthfully) explains that he has no memory of what happened in NY. He went there with a knee injury for which he was prescribed sleeping pills to help with the flight. Ate the whole pack of pills, arrived and then went out drinking and then entered some sort of a psychotic state where he was just walking around NY terrorising the shyte outta random people.

                              People can argue that they've had drugs and survived so they're safe. However, IMO anything that can trigger this kinda shyte is not a 'recreation'. Ooooh but alcohol kills more people. Yeah... nah... such a dumb argument as most of the deaths are from DUI (which is illegal for good reason) and the vast majority of drinkers will not be addicted (which takes a serious amount of abuse) and for something used by ~90% of the population, the percentage of complications are very low.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by King Salvo View Post

                                Nope it comes from medical professionals who deal with it day in and day out including my Wife who is a GP in having to deal with those dependant on drugs - a host develop mental health issues as a result of their drug consumption and dependency over many years.

                                What do you think such drug use does to peoples brains and also to the children born to these drug addicts - drug babies is the term used - they can suffer impaired growth, birth defects, and altered brain development.


                                Now you've switched from your assumption as to why people take drugs, to talking about the medical issues that are caused by drugs. 2 totally different things

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