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  • Originally posted by Chook2 View Post

    Big misses from us not going for Holmes and Lomax despite as loosing our centres
    also goal kickers
    and Ben hunt we should have gone all in for our 6 for 2 seasons on top of b smith and walker being out half a year
    We dabbled at Johnson and Gagai

    we have seemed to lost our recruitment aura either not going for guys at all or just dabbling at offers and missing out on key players
    I think it also shows a lack of cohesion in the coaches planning. To dabble at these random players shows a lack of faith in the current squad and young players. E.g. look at the Fifita saga. Basically turfed Angus and then when it fell through all of a sudden it meant we resigned him and said he was always part of the plans. Everything around our club recruitment wise has been baffling the last 3 or 4 years.

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    • Originally posted by Qld Chook View Post

      Welsby looks decent from what I have seen, but I'd still prefer Galvin, he is still so young and I'd prefer a bigger body, especially with Sammy being so small.
      Galvin has bulked up and is looking sharp.

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      • Originally posted by HunchoRooster View Post

        I think it also shows a lack of cohesion in the coaches planning. To dabble at these random players shows a lack of faith in the current squad and young players. E.g. look at the Fifita saga. Basically turfed Angus and then when it fell through all of a sudden it meant we resigned him and said he was always part of the plans. Everything around our club recruitment wise has been baffling the last 3 or 4 years.
        Okay look at the Fifita saga... Gus was under-performing so we told him to look elsewhere. Instead he hit a purple patch and Fifita reneged on us so we kept Gus.

        Neeext?

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        • Originally posted by Chook2 View Post

          Big misses from us not going for Holmes and Lomax despite as loosing our centres
          ...
          and Ben hunt we should have gone all in for
          Holmes and Lomax wanted $$$ when we've got a surplus of quality outside backs.

          Hunt's got ~1-2 seasons left in him and we went all out for Walker while backing Sandon. Going all in for Hunt woulda meant turfing long-term plans for Walker or Robson in favour of a guy with very little footy left in him.

          NO THANKS!!!

          Honestly all I'm sensing is impatience from people who'd prefer to see us rush into signing a heap of players as bandaid solutions rather than backing our current youth strategy.

          Yes we s*cked on Thursday but faaarks sake, the stars were NOT aligned that night:
          - We know Cheese and Walker are out. S*x but it's fact...
          - Leniu was out due to suspension.
          - We needed special permission to use two absolute random forwards because weird illnesses left Va'a and Butch out.
          - Rads got an HIA when we actually had momentum in our favour against a team the pundits were all expecting to school us.
          - It was wet against a team with two VERY experienced halves and Haas had his game of the century.
          - The refs didn't help either... any chance of us holding on was killed by things like tries off forward passes and absolute BS penalties against us.

          It was game 1. There's a lot of players returning over coming weeks and there's a lot of growth in our youngsters. Also, the Drongos are having a blazing start to the season (they may well be the team to beat in 2025).

          Settle. There's a lot of footy to be played this season. Some weeks will be rough but we're backing our youth!!! IMO things will tighten up...
          Last edited by ism22; 03-08-2025, 07:51 PM.

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          • Originally posted by ism22 View Post

            Holmes and Lomax wanted $$$ when we've got a surplus of quality outside backs.

            Hunt's got ~1-2 seasons left in him and we went all out for Walker while backing Sandon. Going all in for Hunt woulda meant turfing long-term plans for Walker or Robson in favour of a guy with very little footy left in him.

            NO THANKS!!!

            Honestly all I'm sensing is impatience from people who'd prefer to see us rush into signing a heap of players as bandaid solutions rather than backing our current youth strategy.

            Yes we s*cked on Thursday but faaarks sake, the stars were NOT aligned that night:
            - We know Cheese and Walker are out. S*x but it's fact...
            - Leniu was out due to suspension.
            - We needed special permission to use two absolute random forwards because weird illnesses left Va'a and Butch out.
            - Rads got an HIA when we actually had momentum in our favour against a team the pundits were all expecting to school us.
            - It was wet against a team with two VERY experienced halves and Haas had his game of the century.
            - The refs didn't help either... any chance of us holding on was killed by things like tries off forward passes and absolute BS penalties against us.

            It was game 1. There's a lot of players returning over coming weeks and there's a lot of growth in our youngsters. Also, the Drongos are having a blazing start to the season (they may well be the team to beat in 2025).

            Settle. There's a lot of footy to be played this season. Some weeks will be rough but we're backing our youth!!! IMO things will tighten up...
            No holmes and Lomax settled for less coin then they were on at their current clubs $600k
            we don’t have a surplus of outside backs we had a rookie centre and one with 1 game
            sandon smith isn’t up to it hence the hunt requirement. And also we need hunt while walker and b smith are out
            we have lost 1/3 of our cap and signed no one so that’s maybe why the questions are getting asked
            and the results after 2 trials and a game are being asked

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            • Originally posted by ism22 View Post

              Holmes and Lomax wanted $$$ when we've got a surplus of quality outside backs.

              Hunt's got ~1-2 seasons left in him and we went all out for Walker while backing Sandon. Going all in for Hunt woulda meant turfing long-term plans for Walker or Robson in favour of a guy with very little footy left in him.
              We should've pursued Holmes or Lomax as they are experienced representative centres, Tupou will struggle this year just due to age so Mark N could've gone to left wing, Val/Lomax to left Centre and Toia/Young on the other side. Takes a bit of pressure off of Teddy to have another representative back in our backline, Mark N doesn't have a year of wasted development in a position he won't play long term plus we fix our early kicking problems as both Holmes and Lomax are good goalkickers. Even if either player was expensive we're going to have to go to market this year and spend big money on a left centre anyway so why not one of those two?

              As for Hunt, if we couldn't get Luai then I'd dare say 2 seasons with him would probably be greatly beneficial for the team. Current rep player, experienced, certainly someone to help Sam Walker become a better footy player plus a spine of Teddy, Hunt, Walker and Smith seems a lot more competitive than Tedesco, S. Smith, Walker, B. Smith and then when he retires we would've had enough time to properly develop someone OR a suitable player might have come onto the market.
              Last edited by MKCS; Yesterday, 04:16 AM.

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              • Originally posted by MKCS View Post

                We should've pursued Holmes or Lomax as they are experienced representative centres, Tupou will struggle this year just due to age so Mark N could've gone to left wing, Val/Lomax to left Centre and Toia/Young on the other side. Takes a bit of pressure off of Teddy to have another representative back in our backline, Mark N doesn't have a year of wasted development in a position he won't play long term plus we fix our early kicking problems as both Holmes and Lomax are good goalkickers. Even if either player was expensive we're going to have to go to market this year and spend big money on a left centre anyway so why not one of those two?

                As for Hunt, if we couldn't get Luai then I'd dare say 2 seasons with him would probably be greatly beneficial for the team. Current rep player, experienced, certainly someone to help Sam Walker become a better footy player plus a spine of Teddy, Hunt, Walker and Smith seems a lot more competitive than Tedesco, S. Smith, Walker, B. Smith and then when he retires we would've had enough time to properly develop someone OR a suitable player might have come onto the market.
                Exactly the Ben hunt deal would have been like a cooper cronk deal - not long term but valuable for 1-2 seasons and help the younger guys
                and our halves atm we need him

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                • Originally posted by ism22 View Post

                  Holmes and Lomax wanted $$$ when we've got a surplus of quality outside backs.

                  Hunt's got ~1-2 seasons left in him and we went all out for Walker while backing Sandon. Going all in for Hunt woulda meant turfing long-term plans for Walker or Robson in favour of a guy with very little footy left in him.

                  NO THANKS!!!

                  Honestly all I'm sensing is impatience from people who'd prefer to see us rush into signing a heap of players as bandaid solutions rather than backing our current youth strategy.

                  Yes we s*cked on Thursday but faaarks sake, the stars were NOT aligned that night:
                  - We know Cheese and Walker are out. S*x but it's fact...
                  - Leniu was out due to suspension.
                  - We needed special permission to use two absolute random forwards because weird illnesses left Va'a and Butch out.
                  - Rads got an HIA when we actually had momentum in our favour against a team the pundits were all expecting to school us.
                  - It was wet against a team with two VERY experienced halves and Haas had his game of the century.
                  - The refs didn't help either... any chance of us holding on was killed by things like tries off forward passes and absolute BS penalties against us.

                  It was game 1. There's a lot of players returning over coming weeks and there's a lot of growth in our youngsters. Also, the Drongos are having a blazing start to the season (they may well be the team to beat in 2025).

                  Settle. There's a lot of footy to be played this season. Some weeks will be rough but we're backing our youth!!! IMO things will tighten up...
                  I agree.

                  Born and bred in the eastern suburbs.

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