Nafahu Whyte

[Bates]

I think youre getting him confused with Makatoa

Losalu has come through our junior grades the last few years

Yes my bad mate.

[Jacks Fur Coat]

Robbo just said Taylor would be concreting at 7am tomorrow

That's crazy, eh. I hope he can cement a position in the team.

[Bansai Pipeline]

May had an absolute blinder for the Tigs today too. Led on metres, tackles and minutes in shocking heat.

Nice one Aubbo.

[MKCS]

May had an absolute blinder for the Tigs today too. Led on metres, tackles and minutes in shocking heat.

Nice one Aubbo.

Would be quite the prop rotation if we had retained him, Collins, May, Whyte and Leniu.

[Rooster_6]

Whyte's runs are far more punchy than May's, if he can pick up the 50min role that May was playing last year for us I think we will be fine.

Whyte had 12 carries for 144m on the weekend (https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl...07/playerstats)
May had 19 carries for 146m on the weekend (https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl...03/playerstats)

I think a prop rotation should be judged as a unit, there is only a finite number of carries in a game so the more effectively you can share those carries around the better off the overall team will be. For example I would much rather see Leniu, Va'a & Whyte all have 10 carries per game than see one of them have 20 and the others have 5, it's an inefficient use of resource and energy that will effect the quality of your output.

Obviously there are other factors such as possession, field position and game plans that will dictate the amount of workload each player has to get through but for props that variable remains largely consistent unless they're on the back of a hiding or on the side during a dominant win.

[Chook2]

Whyte's runs are far more punchy than May's, if he can pick up the 50min role that May was playing last year for us I think we will be fine.

Whyte had 12 carries for 144m on the weekend (https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl...07/playerstats)
May had 19 carries for 146m on the weekend (https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl...03/playerstats)

I think a prop rotation should be judged as a unit, there is only a finite number of carries in a game so the more effectively you can share those carries around the better off the overall team will be. For example I would much rather see Leniu, Va'a & Whyte all have 10 carries per game than see one of them have 20 and the others have 5, it's an inefficient use of resource and energy that will effect the quality of your output.

Obviously there are other factors such as possession, field position and game plans that will dictate the amount of workload each player has to get through but for props that variable remains largely consistent unless they're on the back of a hiding or on the side during a dominant win.

NRL stats show May played 65min
21 carries for 180mtr which he has done back to back
60 PCM - 4 tackle breaks and 43 tackles
you need a good rotation like the storm do
imagine Whyte and May together particularly when Collins is not confident going into contact and Leniu plays short and sharp minutes
again we had this bloke for $500k he is on $750k and been one of the best props in the comp


fox sports and other articles still bagging us out for letting him go and saying he will partner Haas in the forward pack for the blues

hard to believe when we lost 1200 worth of games and $4m of salary cap, plenty of roster spots and money and didn’t replace him….

[Inflictor]

NRL stats show May played 65min
21 carries for 180mtr which he has done back to back
60 PCM - 4 tackle breaks and 43 tackles
you need a good rotation like the storm do
imagine Whyte and May together particularly when Collins is not confident going into contact and Leniu plays short and sharp minutes
again we had this bloke for $500k he is on $750k and been one of the best props in the comp


fox sports and other articles still bagging us out for letting him go and saying he will partner Haas in the forward pack for the blues

hard to believe when we lost 1200 worth of games and $4m of salary cap, plenty of roster spots and money and didn’t replace him….

FM are we still going on about May?

He is gone and he ain't coming back. He no longer wears the RWB so why GAFF about him. The club had its reasons for letting him go and any suggestion they need to tell us supporters and Fox ffs is ridiculous. Who cares what anyone says about the club regarding May. I doubt Uncle Nick and Robbo GAFF.

He has played two games and he has gone ok. See how he goes from mid season. He seemed to taper off last year around that time.

Build a bridge or go and support the Tigers if you are that hung up on the bloke.

FFS

P.S Whyte is better and Va'a will be.

[Rooster_6]

NRL stats show May played 65min
21 carries for 180mtr which he has done back to back
60 PCM - 4 tackle breaks and 43 tackles
you need a good rotation like the storm do
imagine Whyte and May together particularly when Collins is not confident going into contact and Leniu plays short and sharp minutes
again we had this bloke for $500k he is on $750k and been one of the best props in the comp

I prefer Foxsports data over Stats Perform (NRL.COM Provider).

Foxsports measures metres gained beyond the point of the play the ball, Stats perform measure meters gained whilst the ball is in possession.

So for example if one prop catches the ball 3m before the advantage line Foxsports would not credit them those 3 metres, StatsPerform would.

The purpose of a hitup is to advance you team up the field, measuring metres before the advantage line makes no sense to me and rewards players who are not hitting the ball on the ad line.

[SamKerrSimp]

180m run from 21 runs against the worst forward pack in the comp is so shit if you gave Naufahu Whyte 21 runs against that Parramatta team he would run for 250m+

Graham Murray didn't - Phil Gould did

You could make the argument with Murray for bringing the likes of Morley and Luke Phillips across because we don't win in 2002 without either
Sticky to his credit had the squad the fittest in the comp however

I remember when Brian Smith took the Roosters to a grand final but the consensus from Roosters fans on The Wall was that Smith had nothing to do with that grand final run it was the assistant coach who took over the coaching midway through the season and was running the team on a day to day basis, whoever that guy was I bet he amounted to nothing.

[Chook2]

180m run from 21 runs against the worst forward pack in the comp is so shit if you gave Naufahu Whyte 21 runs against that Parramatta team he would run for 250m+


I remember when Brian Smith took the Roosters to a grand final but the consensus from Roosters fans on The Wall was that Smith had nothing to do with that grand final run it was the assistant coach who took over the coaching midway through the season and was running the team on a day to day basis, whoever that guy was I bet he amounted to nothing.

funny you say that!
the storm put 56 on them the week before and no one made it over 110 mtr in the forward pack
I’m sure if he was still a rooster you wouldn’t be saying that

I love Whyte but you can’t do well in a comp with 1 prop and no he most likely wouldn’t make 250mtr - especially making up for Lindsay’s - 50mtr

you called him a star robbo had produced recently only to back the club for moving him on
changing sides for the argument

[Bates]

I prefer Foxsports data over Stats Perform (NRL.COM Provider).

Foxsports measures metres gained beyond the point of the play the ball, Stats perform measure meters gained whilst the ball is in possession.

So for example if one prop catches the ball 3m before the advantage line Foxsports would not credit them those 3 metres, StatsPerform would.

The purpose of a hitup is to advance you team up the field, measuring metres before the advantage line makes no sense to me and rewards players who are not hitting the ball on the ad line.

That extra time and space can be a good thing for ballplaying forwards and those who like to change their angle before contact.

[SamKerrSimp]

funny you say that!
the storm put 56 on them the week before and no one made it over 110 mtr in the forward pack
I’m sure if he was still a rooster you wouldn’t be saying that

I love Whyte but you can’t do well in a comp with 1 prop and no he most likely wouldn’t make 250mtr - especially making up for Lindsay’s - 50mtr

you called him a star robbo had produced recently only to back the club for moving him on
changing sides for the argument

Of course I would back Robinson's decisions over your opinion is that even up for debate? I didn't say that May was a star I said he was a player that Robinson developed when people like you say dumb things like "he was handed premiership winning squads" and then you hype up guys like May who was developed by the guy you claim contributed nothing to the Roosters in the last 12 years.

No one made over 110m in the storm forward pack but 3 of them ran for over 100m each and 2 others ran for 89m and 88m (plus the 5 outside backs who run for 150m+ including the guy with 249m) so thanks for proving Rooster6's point about forward packs being more useful playing together instead of one guy putting up meaningless Paul Gallen numbers. You haters do an immense job of shooting down your own arguments. Come back to me when May puts up 150m from 13 runs against a top team.

[Chook2]

Of course I would back Robinson's decisions over your opinion is that even up for debate? I didn't say that May was a star I said he was a player that Robinson developed when people like you say dumb things like "he was handed premiership winning squads" and then you hype up guys like May who was developed by the guy you claim contributed nothing to the Roosters in the last 12 years.

No one made over 110m in the storm forward pack but 3 of them ran for over 100m each and 2 others ran for 89m and 88m (plus the 5 outside backs who run for 150m+ including the guy with 249m) so thanks for proving Rooster6's point about forward packs being more useful playing together instead of one guy putting up meaningless Paul Gallen numbers. You haters do an immense job of shooting down your own arguments. Come back to me when May puts up 150m from 13 runs against a top team.

You were saying May didn’t make enough mtrs against a shit side and Whyte would have made 250 + ! So Whyte amazing stats are not on their own? Yet the storm forwads did great making 110mtr? What’s your argument
Exactly 2-3 good mtr eater forward are better then 1
he will most likely make those every game this year
and it Backs up the argument for my side why we need more they just Whyte making mtrs - may alongside him would be even better
I also said how good Whyte played and you came out saying there was no positive!

[Rooster_6]

That extra time and space can be a good thing for ballplaying forwards and those who like to change their angle before contact.

Absolutely, there's definitely purpose in receiving the ball before the advantage line. But that should show up in other statistical areas such as line breaks, tackle breaks, run metres off 1 pass or two pass plays (not publicly available stats).

I'm just explaining why I much prefer to use Foxsports data especially when comparing running metres because in my opinion they only effective running metres are those which progress the play further up the field.

Unless you're Sam Walker and you run -90metres to wind down the clock, I will concede to those also being effective metres.

[SamKerrSimp]

You were saying May didn’t make enough mtrs against a shit side and Whyte would have made 250 + ! So Whyte amazing stats are not on their own? Yet the storm forwads did great making 110mtr? What’s your argument
Exactly 2-3 good mtr eater forward are better then 1
he will most likely make those every game this year
and it Backs up the argument for my side why we need more they just Whyte making mtrs - may alongside him would be even better
I also said how good Whyte played and you came out saying there was no positive!

Fark me this is painful. Nowhere did I say there was no positives to Whyte's performance what the hell are you dribbling about

Whyte had 152m from 13 runs, Wong made 122m from 13 runs, Crichton had 114m from 13 runs we had 3 good metre eaters on friday night. If you can't see why Melbourne having 5 forwards run between 88m and 105m is a good thing in addition to their backs carving up 150m each then I can't help you.