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  • Originally posted by King Salvo View Post

    Daly has been at Manly since 2008 - 2011 in NRL - Only 1 comp in 2011 when a youngster in a star studded Manly side.

    The 10 years since he signed the 10 year @1 Million a season contract hasn't resulted in 1 premiership and wont in 2025 either - signed that deal in 2016.

    It's Ben Hunt like results - Dragons paid him close to 1 Million a season for all those years - Luke Brooks another highly paid player at the Tigers

    Yes it's a team sport but the pressure is on the marque players to produce the results and premierships for the money they are on. - That's what the fans want

    Can't see any up's in signing a 37 year old for 2 years and stalling the NRL development of Sam Walker / Sandon Smith as a halves pairing plus others underneath these two who will be developed to be NRL ready- i.e Toby Rodwell / Hugo Savala / Jake Elliot / Reece Foley.

    Worst case scenario is you lose all 4 up an comers who maybe NRL ready during this period and don't want to wait any longer in nailing down a NRL halves role and Sam and or Sandon who sign with other teams as Daly has taken their place - your back to square one then,

    The Domino affect.

    A daft decision by the club if Daly is signed







    What happened to trusting Robinsons judgment mate? Plus all the Roosters hierarchy who are paid to make the decisions that you reference so often.

    I respect your points on youth development but I fail to see how you can pick and choose when to say that the club should be fully trusted and offering contrary opinions to clubs decisions is poor form, which is your usual position.

    Also worth noting we were in for Ben Hunt, your example you brought up so Robinson saw something to different to what you did.

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    • Poor old Wayne while ranting to the media about the DCE transfer and the soap opera it causes mid season he’s forgotten Souffs are trying to get Smith mid season from the Roosters………it’s a bit hypocritical.

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      • Originally posted by theGman View Post

        Besides being an astute mentor to our young halves, Daly will one day become one hell of a NRL assistant/head coach.
        Very well spoken and articulate too.

        That's the value he brings to whichever club he lands at.

        Fingers crossed.
        That's a good point also. Aren't many old school footy brains around.
        Born and bred in the eastern suburbs.

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        • oh well, the mole was onto something this time. don't know what i think. two years seems a gamble

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          • Sign sign sign !!

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            • Originally posted by milanja View Post
              I think DCE is very much about DCE, celebrates when he scores a try when manly are 20 points down at the end of a game, tells the club and fans on national tv he will not re-sign with them, accused of playing for stats on the field to increase his SuperCoach team.

              Hell of a kicker, and very durable, but there is something I just don’t like about him. Cronk was 35 when he came to us, better leader on the field, DCE will be 37,I think it becomes a risky potential signing.

              i hope we don’t sign him, but if we do, then hopefully he can get a CC medal after actually winning a premiership.
              His eyes are also too close together for my liking...

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              • Originally posted by milanja View Post
                I think DCE is very much about DCE, celebrates when he scores a try when manly are 20 points down at the end of a game, tells the club and fans on national tv he will not re-sign with them, accused of playing for stats on the field to increase his SuperCoach team.

                Hell of a kicker, and very durable, but there is something I just don’t like about him. Cronk was 35 when he came to us, better leader on the field, DCE will be 37,I think it becomes a risky potential signing.

                i hope we don’t sign him, but if we do, then hopefully he can get a CC medal after actually winning a premiership.
                The one he has belongs to James Maloney.

                He may be forgiven if he helps us win a comp.

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                • Originally posted by HunchoRooster View Post

                  What happened to trusting Robinsons judgment mate? Plus all the Roosters hierarchy who are paid to make the decisions that you reference so often.

                  I respect your points on youth development but I fail to see how you can pick and choose when to say that the club should be fully trusted and offering contrary opinions to clubs decisions is poor form, which is your usual position.

                  Also worth noting we were in for Ben Hunt, your example you brought up so Robinson saw something to different to what you did.
                  DCE used to be as popular as a you know what in a swimming pool on this site even before the controversial decision to award him the CC Medal. Now that he's "linked" to the Chooks, he's taken on some sort of JC second-coming persona.

                  Gees I remember Roosters folk sitting behind us at the 2013 GF saying that if that long neck so and so was ever signed by the Roosters they would never buy season tickets/ membership packs or support the Roosters ever again - maybe some of those folk are on here?

                  I didn't agree with the Lodge signing nor Fifita or Hunt's

                  Has the club come out and said anything to confirm any intentions to sign him in this DCE media circus/brouhaha with up to 10 clubs being linked to DCE - handwritten notes/subterfuge and what not?

                  The word is, if DCE leaves Manly he will be a Doggy as they have a better chance of winning a comp in this 2-year period.

                  To throw a Spanner or Spaniard in the works (John Lennon Book)

                  Do you think the players below will be happy to hang around until 2028 or longer for a shot at playing NRL full-time though - the best part of 3 years?
                  • Toby Rodwell - 2028 -22 in 2028
                  • Jake Elliot - 2027–23 in 2028
                  • Hugo Savala - 2027–25 in 2028
                  • Reece Foley - 2027–23 in 2028
                  Ethan Strange and Jacob Preston, for instance, signed with clubs that provided them with a shot of playing NRL full-time, which the Roosters couldn't offer them at the time. - A few others as well.

                  Both Sam and Sandon are signed to 2027 - no guarantee they will extend past 2027 either. So they will have to offer those 4 or so above incentives to stay in case either Sam or Sandon or both leave at some point - monetary incentives at least during that run up to 2028.

                  Folk on here are banging on regularly about the lack of succession planning especially with a raft of players known to be leaving.

                  They would in a pickle if a lot of these players left for better NRL playing opportunities elsewhere as years of training and development have been put into them - they would have to start all over again.

                  A short-term gain could also end in long-term pain.

                  The Domino Affect







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                  • Originally posted by King Salvo View Post

                    DCE used to be as popular as a you know what in a swimming pool on this site even before the controversial decision to award him the CC Medal. Now that he's "linked" to the Chooks, he's taken on some sort of JC second-coming persona.

                    Gees I remember Roosters folk sitting behind us at the 2013 GF saying that if that long neck so and so was ever signed by the Roosters they would never buy season tickets/ membership packs or support the Roosters ever again - maybe some of those folk are on here?

                    I didn't agree with the Lodge signing nor Fifita or Hunt's

                    Has the club come out and said anything to confirm any intentions to sign him in this DCE media circus/brouhaha with up to 10 clubs being linked to DCE - handwritten notes/subterfuge and what not?

                    The word is, if DCE leaves Manly he will be a Doggy as they have a better chance of winning a comp in this 2-year period.

                    To throw a Spanner or Spaniard in the works (John Lennon Book)

                    Do you think the players below will be happy to hang around until 2028 or longer for a shot at playing NRL full-time though - the best part of 3 years?
                    • Toby Rodwell - 2028 -22 in 2028
                    • Jake Elliot - 2027–23 in 2028
                    • Hugo Savala - 2027–25 in 2028
                    • Reece Foley - 2027–23 in 2028
                    Ethan Strange and Jacob Preston, for instance, signed with clubs that provided them with a shot of playing NRL full-time, which the Roosters couldn't offer them at the time. - A few others as well.

                    Both Sam and Sandon are signed to 2027 - no guarantee they will extend past 2027 either. So they will have to offer those 4 or so above incentives to stay in case either Sam or Sandon or both leave at some point - monetary incentives at least during that run up to 2028.

                    Folk on here are banging on regularly about the lack of succession planning especially with a raft of players known to be leaving.

                    They would in a pickle if a lot of these players left for better NRL playing opportunities elsewhere as years of training and development have been put into them - they would have to start all over again.

                    A short-term gain could also end in long-term pain.

                    The Domino Affect






                    I have Rooster mates that would be saying the same thing now about DCE and don’t want to sign him. No doubt people are fickle. I’m not saying it’s happening, I’m just saying when others give opinions that are contrary to the club decisions you generally disapprove and say thank god the Pen don’t make decisions.

                    To your last point, no I do not see all 4 of them staying, but how much of that would be because of DCE signing hypothetically? There are only 2 spots in the halves and Sam Walker has a mortgage on one of them unless he says otherwise. So we will be losing one of Elliott, Sandon or Rodwell regardless. Who is to say that Sandon kicks on this year, becomes a really strong player for us and we never look into getting DCE because SS has played the house down for the rest of the season.

                    Would Sandon then be blocking the path for Rodwell and/or Elliott for example? Retention is good, but it’s a fact of life that the best players play every week and decisions need to be made and you can’t keep them all.

                    You seem to be a man of knowledge on other codes, RL is one of those sports where depth isn’t as vital as it is in football for example where you play 60 games a year and you can rotate players throughout a squad. You want your best 17 playing virtually every week. If we were to get DCE, he’s in our starting side.

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                    • Originally posted by HunchoRooster View Post

                      I have Rooster mates that would be saying the same thing now about DCE and don’t want to sign him. No doubt people are fickle. I’m not saying it’s happening, I’m just saying when others give opinions that are contrary to the club decisions you generally disapprove and say thank god the Pen don’t make decisions.

                      To your last point, no I do not see all 4 of them staying, but how much of that would be because of DCE signing hypothetically? There are only 2 spots in the halves and Sam Walker has a mortgage on one of them unless he says otherwise. So we will be losing one of Elliott, Sandon or Rodwell regardless. Who is to say that Sandon kicks on this year, becomes a really strong player for us and we never look into getting DCE because SS has played the house down for the rest of the season.

                      Would Sandon then be blocking the path for Rodwell and/or Elliott for example? Retention is good, but it’s a fact of life that the best players play every week and decisions need to be made and you can’t keep them all.

                      You seem to be a man of knowledge on other codes, RL is one of those sports where depth isn’t as vital as it is in football for example where you play 60 games a year and you can rotate players throughout a squad. You want your best 17 playing virtually every week. If we were to get DCE, he’s in our starting side.
                      Forgiveness is important for ones well being. The burden is lifted once you forgive!

                      I'll forgive DCE if he helps us win a premiership but for now I am happy to carry the 2013 CC medal burden.

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                      • If the chooks sign DCE it will only prove what a basket case we have become.

                        in saying that he's probably a better signing then dylan brown for a fraction of the price
                        Last edited by Bondicigar; 03-26-2025, 06:19 PM.

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                        • Originally posted by King Salvo View Post

                          DCE used to be as popular as a you know what in a swimming pool on this site even before the controversial decision to award him the CC Medal. Now that he's "linked" to the Chooks, he's taken on some sort of JC second-coming persona.

                          Gees I remember Roosters folk sitting behind us at the 2013 GF saying that if that long neck so and so was ever signed by the Roosters they would never buy season tickets/ membership packs or support the Roosters ever again - maybe some of those folk are on here?

                          I didn't agree with the Lodge signing nor Fifita or Hunt's

                          Has the club come out and said anything to confirm any intentions to sign him in this DCE media circus/brouhaha with up to 10 clubs being linked to DCE - handwritten notes/subterfuge and what not?

                          The word is, if DCE leaves Manly he will be a Doggy as they have a better chance of winning a comp in this 2-year period.

                          To throw a Spanner or Spaniard in the works (John Lennon Book)

                          Do you think the players below will be happy to hang around until 2028 or longer for a shot at playing NRL full-time though - the best part of 3 years?
                          • Toby Rodwell - 2028 -22 in 2028
                          • Jake Elliot - 2027–23 in 2028
                          • Hugo Savala - 2027–25 in 2028
                          • Reece Foley - 2027–23 in 2028
                          Ethan Strange and Jacob Preston, for instance, signed with clubs that provided them with a shot of playing NRL full-time, which the Roosters couldn't offer them at the time. - A few others as well.

                          Both Sam and Sandon are signed to 2027 - no guarantee they will extend past 2027 either. So they will have to offer those 4 or so above incentives to stay in case either Sam or Sandon or both leave at some point - monetary incentives at least during that run up to 2028.

                          Folk on here are banging on regularly about the lack of succession planning especially with a raft of players known to be leaving.

                          They would in a pickle if a lot of these players left for better NRL playing opportunities elsewhere as years of training and development have been put into them - they would have to start all over again.

                          A short-term gain could also end in long-term pain.

                          The Domino Affect






                          Walker is still a young half who needs to develop his game not worry about pushing along the other half at this stage of his career

                          all 4 players arnt going to make it at the roosters anyway so 1-2 will head off for greener pastures if good enough as they all can’t play 6
                          and if sandon is the 6 as you say none of them will be there

                          Elliot is only 19 and rodwell 18 so they need time in juniors - nsw cup to develop their game
                          if they are good enough they will make it
                          although it’s good to have a succession plan you also require the now
                          we lost 1200games and loads of experience and didn’t replace it

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                          • Originally posted by Easts75 View Post
                            Sandon Smith is a NSW Cup player or Super League at best. He is slightly better than the hack Lachy Lam. He will have the odd good game very occasionally but will always be targeted defensively and has the long kicking game of a teenage girl

                            DCE for 2 years would be ideal. We have carried one weak half for too long. Keary was non existent for a few years. Sandon just isn't up to scratch. DCE and Walker could give us a premiership immediately. How anyone wouldn't be excited by that is simply delusional.
                            There's so much wrong with this piece, I don't know where to start. So I won't.

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                            • Originally posted by King Salvo View Post


                              I didn't agree with the Lodge signing nor Fifita or Hunt's
                              Agree about Fafita. What how about Luke O'Donnell, Coops or Robson ? Dunno how hard they went for Hunt but we were in the chase.

                              I get the academy idea but you don't reckon the club held on to the cash to go big for next season ?

                              Compared to what Brown was signed for mate 2 years for DCE should be a bargain cause Brown isnt in the same class.

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                              • DCE has done sfa for the chipstealers after all theser years - they haven't contested a Grand Final for donkeys ages.

                                And he's done nothing at SOO level as well - can't recall him beingt MOM or the reason that Queensland ended up winning a series recently.

                                At 38 or 39 years of age I can't see him doing anything useful for the Roosters either - I bet he won't do anything to make us premiership contenders, despite what other people are saying.

                                My tip is that he is more likely to be considered for NSW Cup next year - his time as a first grader has well and truly passed.

                                This is going to be another Roosters recruitment blunder , in a long list of recent disappointments.

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