the coaching plot thickens

[Guest]

unfortunately, our results have gone backwards the longer smith has been here. Normally in years 2 and 3, a good coach is meant to have his team rising up the ladder and steadily improving. We have gone the other way. Those are the simple facts. You can blame refs, blame young players, blame the wind, blame kicking, blame this or blame that, its all spin to say otherwise.

I dont take much notice of a first year honeymoon year when the next 2 years have been pathetic. That only goes to show to me that we do have the players or squad to be a good team with good results. If anything, its a further indictment on smith that we were 11th and now 14th in his second and third years in charge.

Fred,

If Smith still here next year then I'd like to have a wager with you that we make the top 8.

[Vasco]

Melon, I'm hoping you are throwing a dummy so Bellamy doesn't renege on his handshake deal.

[Guest]

Fred,

If Smith still here next year then I'd like to have a wager with you that we make the top 8.

can we do double or nothing if smith is not even here next year at all?

[The Rooster Oracle]

Mickey - IF and i know its an if...but suppose we make another GF next year or go close...his coaching tenure would have to regarded as pretty successful... certainly our best since Stuarts reign.

I do think we can bite back pretty hard next year with the comings and goings of personnel plus the experience and hard lessons some talented guys have gained this year.

Just my thoughts and I can understand peoples vision being clouded by the past two years, and the resulting pessimism.

And how are people's vision being clouded by the past two years?

[Guest]

can we do double or nothing if smith is not even here next year at all?

That is besides the point.

You are blaming everything on Smith, claiming we are going backwards, and that it has little to do with personnel and player attitude. Put your money where your mouth is.

[Guest]

That is besides the point.

You are blaming everything on Smith, claiming we are going backwards, and that it has little to do with personnel and player attitude. Put your money where your mouth is.

what prices will you offer on Roosters making/not making the 8 under Smith next year?

[Guest]

That is besides the point.

You are blaming everything on Smith, claiming we are going backwards, and that it has little to do with personnel and player attitude. Put your money where your mouth is.

you dont think we are going backwards?

You dont think that after 3 years, the coach is important?

Do you think the coach just arranges the oranges or muffins before the game and nothing else?

[Guest]

you dont think we are going backwards?

You dont think that after 3 years, the coach is important?

Do you think the coach just arranges the oranges or muffins before the game and nothing else?

If you honestly believe we are worse off than before Smith started and that it is his fault then put your money where you mouth is. Put up or shut up.

[Guest]

If you honestly believe we are worse off than before Smith started and that it is his fault then put your money where you mouth is. Put up or shut up.

what money?

you haven't specified anything of what you are prepared to bet.

you also didnt answer my double or nothing question.

[stsae]

Just make it a sig bet AlFredo.

Loser carries kudos to the winner for the 2014 season, in their sig, IF Smiff is coach next year.

Surely you have no worries taking simple bet about Smiffy coaching us anywhere next year mate, after all you said he won't be coaching us next year, so that would make the bet easy to accept wouldnt it???

[Jacks Fur Coat]

what money?

you haven't specified anything of what you are prepared to bet.

you also didnt answer my double or nothing question.

I'm getting confused by this bet.

Fred - betting that Smithy isnt even coaching us next year
Dice - betting that we will make the 8 under Smithy next year.

How does the double or nothing bit work?

Oh ok maybe this then...if Fred loses his bet and Smithy is coaching next year he gets his money back IF we dont make the top 8?

[stsae]

I'm getting confused by this bet.

Fred - betting that Smithy isnt even coaching us next year
Dice - betting that we will make the 8 under Smithy next year.

How does the double or nothing bit work?

Oh ok maybe this then...if Fred loses his bet and Smithy is coaching next year he gets his money back IF we dont make the top 8?

This is surely one of those whose on first geeups JackieBoy.

My mind hurts.

[Guest]

what money?

you haven't specified anything of what you are prepared to bet.

you also didnt answer my double or nothing question.

You are asking me to bet that the board still prefers to sack coaches than the weak-minded crybabies in the team. It would not surprise me either way.



The bet is that we make the top 8 next year if Smith is still coaching. If your claims have any credibility you will put your money where your mouth is.

[Jacks Fur Coat]

This is surely one of those whose on first geeups JackieBoy.

My mind hurts.

Was Twice shot once?

[stsae]

Asking excitably:
How good are the Roosters going under Smithy?

It's all good because Braiths goalkicking has been good straight from Smiths mouth.

Fred is concerned like alot of us who can see that as much as Smith knows about footy & is a lovely man he no longer has the passion or drive to win. He has caused an illusion that he only has a very young side & that the refs have cruelled our season, he has some like you who feed into it & there are others like myself & fred who dont.

Getting to the GF in year 1 was the worst thing for Smith because everyones expectations were exceded so from there on it made everyones expectations higher. Realistically the team should have kept on performing but with that lack lust discipline & Smith unable to generate spirit within the team the team has stalled big time. Getting a team to the GF should have a flow on effect the following year unless you are the Roosters or the Warriors. Can you see any similarities there?

Why would anyone put themselves thru the hours and the constant criticism and scrutiny of coaching at the highest level if they had lost their passion or drive to win mate??? I don't get that opinion you have presented there as fact.

How has Smiff caused the illusion that he has a very young side and that the reffs have cruelled our season??? I have read the stats more than once in the media of late that we have the youngest squad in the comp and have given up the penalties differential for over 5 seasons now, including this one. Arent these illusions actual facts???

If your expectations are exceeded then not met wouldn't that have more to do with you setting unrealistic expectations in relation to the talent in the club??? After all if you are not realistic with what you expected out of a side with our capabilities in the 1, 6, 7 and 9 jumpers this season that would make your expectations unrealistic, wouldn't it???

Lickey you are usually a great poster, but in that post I just smell the old agenda poking out mate. Thats not a worry in itself, it's just not like you, from what I've read of your past shit.

Smiff may have his problems, but he didn't kill Bambi.