1 Outside Back Short

[Guest]

Sorry if this seems an odd question, but does anyone here know kegs1?

He just seems such a charicature that he has to be MRIHK, no?

Not another lemon goat alter ego?
Begurrk was his best personality here,and there has been quite a few since his meltdown...

[Salvatori Grubber]

That dude has massive problems.

[Guest]

That dude has massive problems.

He is definately MRHK playing the goat ...

[Guest]

Because I gave your Mrs the benefit of the doubt at first and it turns out she wasn't value for money.

I don't want to make the same mistake twice!

Meow. It's only because you don't like a good looking chick with massive tits. You can't blame her for you being gay, thus not getting value for money.

Good looking is debatable.

I'll give you that she has massive tits, but that shit doesn't count when the bitch is a size 24!

[stephenj]

having played front row in first grade at both codes, i can honestly say league is a much tougher one on one contest, wehereas union is much more a team sport.in league if you miss a tackle you stand out like dogs toes in union you can hold him till your mates arrive to form a maul or ruck. a league scrum however once3 was the hardest most vicious place on earth is now just a day nursey compared to a union scrum, the touch pause hold engage is so you impact correctly thus not snapping your neck from the impact, its very real as not only is there the initial hit from engaging then theres a seconday shove from the backrowers, all through your neck. unlike league a line out is a real contest and very technical and skillful if done properly. got to be a better cas than an unconteseted league scrumette when the ball goes out?
we could go on and on but at days end theyre both great games to enjoy, league being simpler to understand the basics is more polular and more suited to tv tlecasts?

[Guest]

LOL yeah mate 24 year old SKD is living on 'past glories'. At least these past glories were only 2 years ago, and not 10.

Exactly, 2 long years ago and he has done nothing since. The Roosters signed him to a long term contract after his fluke year and we are yet to see any return. Like I said, he is a dud who needs to learn how to tackle.

I remember reading that some of the young up and comers at the club look up to him for advice. No wonder they have defensive deficiencies too.

Lets see how he goes next year, cause if he doesn't pull his fist out, he will be out the door.

[Guest]

having played front row in first grade at both codes, i can honestly say league is a much tougher one on one contest, wehereas union is much more a team sport.in league if you miss a tackle you stand out like dogs toes in union you can hold him till your mates arrive to form a maul or ruck. a league scrum however once3 was the hardest most vicious place on earth is now just a day nursey compared to a union scrum, the touch pause hold engage is so you impact correctly thus not snapping your neck from the impact, its very real as not only is there the initial hit from engaging then theres a seconday shove from the backrowers, all through your neck. unlike league a line out is a real contest and very technical and skillful if done properly. got to be a better cas than an unconteseted league scrumette when the ball goes out?
we could go on and on but at days end theyre both great games to enjoy, league being simpler to understand the basics is more polular and more suited to tv tlecasts?

Scrum engagements were an armchair ride for you hookers Steve.Us poor props took all the impact,but we did then transfer the pressure to our locks...

[Guest]

Good looking is debatable.

I'll give you that she has massive tits, but that shit doesn't count when the bitch is a size 24!

bust, waist, over-all dimension? Here is something to think about

What’s six inches long and two inches wide and drives women wild?

Answer: Money.

Now if I had said whats 2 inches long and half an inch wide and makes gay men disappointed, well, just drop your draws and look down for that answer.

[Thirteen]

I still believe we are one outside back short once the dust settles. I believe Mini is done and offers nothing at fullback and will offer little on the wing. He's too slow, he's ineffective from dummy-half and he has no power running left in him. We are pinning a lot of hope on Henry, RTS, Oldfield, Peni and Tupou. I think the only thing the club has fallen short on in getting us in to a strong position for the future is this outside back area. I wish they had 1 or 2 less backrowers, 1 less Minichiello and a Justin O'Neill, Dane Gagai, Gerard Beale etc waiting in the wings. All of whom were off contract this year. All players who are starting winger/centres, but more importantly would make very good fullback alternatives.

1. RTS - I can't see how we can expect him to play 26 + rounds next year as starting fullback. I have heard that Oldfield is handy pick up and the fact he wasn't playing for Manly all year in a nutshell is obvious. Why develop him further for us.
2. Oldfield/Tupou - see my opening statement.
3. BJ - I still don't what BJ's best position is. I always (and still some what do) considered him a backrower. But after watching him in the City-Country Origin match and seeing him further develop I think he has the talent to make a great fist of the centre position. He played well this year in patches, and with Anasta inside him that's saying something.
4. SKD - He is a grand final centre, world champions centre. Yes his defensive lapses, but I'd rather having playing with us than against us.
5. Tau Tau - He will get there. SBW will be worth his weight in gold to someone like Tau (I coached Tau age 12). SBW will provide him, and a lot of others with great confidence.
6. Maloney - will provide us with everything Braith didn't. Has defensive flaws, but not through lack of effort and commitment unlike some others.
7. Pearce - He is a class half, and when class halves are rare these days I am happy we have him. Is he happy to have us?
8. JWH - Simply we need a Hannant work load from him. He is effective in everything he does, but needs to do MORE of it. In saying that - less penalties please...
9. Friend - Needs to have his work rate reduced. Makes too many tackles to be effective. Hopefully he and Pearce can be provided with better go forward by FORWARDS rather than wingers, and we will see him continue to develop and learn that less is sometimes more.
10. MK - Just like JWH. We need MK to be our Tolman.
11. SBW - Let him do his thing on the right edge. Can hear it now: SBW gets arm free pops beautiful ball to SKD streaking down the left edge. He has Moga outside, RTS looming on the inside. TRY!! RTS scores his 20th try of the year and the crowd is chanting 'Barba Who'?
12. Guerra - Left side is all yours Aiden, like has been last 4 or so seasons. Very under rated. Best part is we have adequate back up - for he is injury prone.
13. Cordner - can he be our Fensom/Parker? If not who will it be? Bosden?

14. Seluini/Maubs
15. Evans
16. FPN/Taka
17. Tasi/Bosden

The bench is a tricky one, depends how Trent plays it I guess. What he expects from Friend. What he can get out of Seluini. What he gets out of JWH, MK, FPN and Tasi. We need for whoever replaces JWH and MK after 20-25mins to continue the platform they lay-something that didn't happen this year. One thing for sure is that Newtown will have a cracking forward pack next year.

That just leaves one other decision - CAPTAINCY. MK for mine.

Look forward to hearing some thoughts on what I have written. Good or Bad.

I like your comments but I think you need to get off the fence. A football team consists of 17 players. Why don't you give us your top 17. As for MK as captain....firstly, he needs to toughen up in defence, and secondly, a captain should be on the field at all times. Maloney is the only person in the side with credentials to be captain.

[Thirteen]

Quade Cooper seems more and more likely for us in 2013 the longer he remains un-signed with the ARU. SBW wants to play league with Quade and Quade wants to play with SBW.

They sound like a bunch of homos......not that there's anything wrong with that!

[Thirteen]

Then if what is touted happens, this should be our team.

1. RTS
2. Oldfield
3. SKD
4. SBW
5. Moga/Tupou/Tagive
6. Cooper
7. Maloney
8. Kennedy (40 Minute player at least)
9. Pearce
10. Tasi
11. JWH (60 minute forward - switches to prop when another back comes on.)
12. Guerra
13. Friend

14. Bosden
15. Taka
16. Seliuni/Mortimer
17. Evans/Mose/Cherro/Symonds

Do you realise that a rugby league team consists of 17 players not 117?

[Thirteen]

Daniel T and Oldfield will also come into consideration for fullback. Both very good under the high ball, both big and fast. All the modern day credentials for a good fullback. This squad is crying out for a good coach/manager/mental engineer.
Tupou seems the steadiest of all our young backs that came through this year

If he hadn't scored 3 verses the Tigers would you still think this?

[Thirteen]

With all due respect I am guessing you have played neither game, especially as a forward, mate???

So what? Only people who have played the game are entitled to comment?
That rules out any women on the forum....

[Thirteen]

having played front row in first grade at both codes, i can honestly say league is a much tougher one on one contest, wehereas union is much more a team sport.in league if you miss a tackle you stand out like dogs toes in union you can hold him till your mates arrive to form a maul or ruck. a league scrum however once3 was the hardest most vicious place on earth is now just a day nursey compared to a union scrum, the touch pause hold engage is so you impact correctly thus not snapping your neck from the impact, its very real as not only is there the initial hit from engaging then theres a seconday shove from the backrowers, all through your neck. unlike league a line out is a real contest and very technical and skillful if done properly. got to be a better cas than an unconteseted league scrumette when the ball goes out?
we could go on and on but at days end theyre both great games to enjoy, league being simpler to understand the basics is more polular and more suited to tv tlecasts?

Stephen who did you play for?

[Chook Norris]

youve brought this argument out again.
IMO rugby union players are better than rugby league players.
IMO, if the kangas played the all blacks in union, theyd get hammered, AND IN MY OPINION, if the kangas played the all blacks in league, the ab's would give them a run for their money.
rugby players are stronger, fitter, smarter and more resourceful.
ill give you an example:
in league, teams often go in with four props. two start, stay on for twenty minutes, get replaced, and come back on with twenty minutes to go. that means four props each play roughly 40 minutes each.
in union, teams often go in with three props. two starts, one plays the whole game and the other comes off with around 15 minutes to go. that means one prop plays 80, one plays 65 and the other plays 15

I'm not sure if you are only using the examples of the ABs and the Kangaroos, but there have previously been cases of cross-code matches in the northern hemisphere as well as in school boy matches in QLD, iirc.

In 1996, Bath took on Wigan (rugby league) in a two-game "clash of the codes" series where one game was played under league rules and the other under union.
Wigan won the series by an aggregate score of 101-50.

Seven years later Sale took on St Helens in a one-off tie where the first half was contested under union and the second under league. This time it was the union side who triumphed, with Sale prevailing 41-39. [[[ First half under union rules was sale 41-0. Second half the St Helens' boys caught up 39-0. Final score being 41-39 of course]]

Keebra Park (RL) also played a hybrid league-union match and lost in a close affair 16-12. So as you can see, it seems to be quite even.

However, going back to your original assumption that the ABs would beat the Kangaroos at their own game... i think that's ridiculous and quite unrealistic.. IMO. The two sports do share various similarities but there are enough fundamental differences to allow a more experienced side to dominate their own sport. So in saying that, i think it'd be clear that a team playing their own sport *will* prevail in their respective sport over a team new to that sport. That, is clear to me.