An Open Letter to fellow Roosters 'fans'

[Guest]

looks like sbw actually thinks that he did the right thing. if in his own mind he thinks its right then no amount of posts and forums will change it.

It reminds me of when steve waugh "caught" brian lara and video replays cleary showed it was not out. waughs defence was "in my mind it was a catch and thats it". I did not like him at all after that but you move on cos in the end, you cannot change the past.

Bingo. You cannot change the past and what is done is done. I can however control my own views on the topic and that wont change anytime in the near future based on past events that have led to me this point of view.

[Guest]

I am not here to attack, just point out facts. You like facts, and the fact is you are peddling repetetive shite. It's boring and you keep going on trying to convince anyone you can. games up champ your wrong and you can't admit it. Now that is a fact you may not enjoy.

lol... and they keep coming!

This ones just for fun because if you cant read and see that I admitted it, then you are blind or are just trying to stir shit. I reckon I know which one it is though.

Tell me how my views are 'repetitive' and those on the other side of the argument are not? For every one of my posts, there are two to try and discredit my opinion. Wheres the real repetition sunshine? Im enjoying that fact!!!

[Guest]

I thought it was pretty good form really. I somewhat acknowledged your request to admit his apology but also was able to show that it meant nothing at the same time. Awesome form really!

No one is going to change my view on the subject. I though that was obvious about 16 pages ago but as long as you lot want to discuss it further, Im happy to play on.

Classic..

Even though you have been proven completely wrong,nothing is going to change that wrong opinion..

Says more about you than you know..

That is the epitome of poor form..

Snap out of this rut you are in..

[Guest]

SC, I'm not arguing the point with u cobber. I'm just saying that I believe you need to be accountable for your own actions and actions bring consequences. I understand that learning is all about making mistakes but mistake is just that. It's not a conscious decision and thought out plan to behave in a certain way. sBWalkout chose his own path and thus the consequences. Those on here who say he made a mistake are kidding themselves into trying to justify the signing. If SBWalkout believed he made a mistake, don't you think he would apologise for it? No, he still stands by his decision which to me says to me that he has not changed at all.

Ralphy SBW did not make a mistake, he was getting screwed over by the Dogs & his amateur agent at the time, that talked him into signing a contract that was below his worth, so that the club could keep it's "stars" together, but he was the only one who made a sacrifice for that purpose, when Nasser made him aware of all that, he then approached the club to see if they could amend the 5 yr contract they had cornered him into, they refused to do anything to help him, so he got out of there as soon as he could. I certainly would've done the same thing if I was in his position, I would think any half intelligent person would've done the same & yes Ralphy that includes you!!

[mightyrooster]

Ralphy SBW did not make a mistake, he was getting screwed over by the Dogs & his amateur agent at the time, that talked him into signing a contract that was below his worth, so that the club could keep it's "stars" together, but he was the only one who made a sacrifice for that purpose, when Nasser made him aware of all that, he then approached the club to see if they could amend the 5 yr contract they had cornered him into, they refused to do anything to help him, so he got out of there as soon as he could. I certainly would've done the same thing if I was in his position, I would think any half intelligent person would've done the same & yes Ralphy that includes you!!

I think too didn't he agree to the lower contract amount because the bullcheats management said he had to in order for them to keep all their star players together? And then soon after they sacked Mason and someone else (who I cant remember??) and when $BW went back to them after this to ask for an upgrade in light of the new circumstances they said no. They had a very ordinary squad at the time he did a runner. He was by far and away there only marquee player at the time if I recall.

But of course it's the way he left which gets everyone up in arms and me included. Running away over night, skipping the country like he did. He was young, naive and not the smartest tool in the shed - still isn't. But he HAS apologised whatever the News Ltd press try and tell you. Does the Telecrap and other journos / the public out there continually ask Johns to apologise for his drug use? I am almost certain if $BW was joining the Sharks, Souffs, Tigers, Parra or one of the media darlings, we'd be seeing a different kind of reporting and not all this OTT hysteria..

[Guest]

SBW will be good for the club and the game.

[novice chook]

Absolutley agree 1000% Horrie. Next season I will have to tolerate him in the side but dont think for a second that I will respect him.

Ever..

I'm with you Filthy and totally understand where you're coming from. I

've resigned myself to the fact that I'll have to suffer him at the Roosters for at least one season, but I will always be opposed to him being at the club. Pixie claps from me will be the most I can offer the bloke, and that's begrudgingly.

It's the different opinions and views that make life the interesting place that it is. Bloody boring if we were all the same.

I'm happy for the Scummy Bill supporters to fawn over him all they like. Just so long as they don't expect me to do the same.

NC

[stsae]

I think too didn't he agree to the lower contract amount because the bullcheats management said he had to in order for them to keep all their star players together? And then soon after they sacked Mason and someone else (who I cant remember??) and when $BW went back to them after this to ask for an upgrade in light of the new circumstances they said no. They had a very ordinary squad at the time he did a runner. He was by far and away there only marquee player at the time if I recall.

But of course it's the way he left which gets everyone up in arms and me included. Running away over night, skipping the country like he did. He was young, naive and not the smartest tool in the shed - still isn't. But he HAS apologised whatever the News Ltd press try and tell you. Does the Telecrap and other journos / the public out there continually ask Johns to apologise for his drug use? I am almost certain if $BW was joining the Sharks, Souffs, Tigers, Parra or one of the media darlings, we'd be seeing a different kind of reporting and not all this OTT hysteria..

Very good post mr.

$BW has apologized to the Boggs fans and his teammates, paid $750K compo to the Boggs and been forced to effectively sit out 4 1/2 years which was the remaining length of his deal.

Has any other contract breaker ever in the history of RL been so heavily sanctioned??? And been required to apologize as a disclaimer every time he speaks with the media???

We have another bloke called Folau who took cash to attract kids and families to another code and he's treated like the prodigal son.

We have Tallis who sat out the season, when they made a GF and lost, so he could go to another club. He was rewarded with some sweet media jobs, even a NRL stint on their board.

We have Lyon who walked from Watsamatta cos he wanted to play with woManly. He played country footy and in the UK till he could come back.

What about Luke Lewis??? Signed with Souffs got home sick reniged on that deal resigned with Penwiff then a few years later decides he wants out of his contract with Penwiff and signs with the Tards. A double contract breaker.

All these players, and many more, have walked out on contracts. It happens yearly in our game.

NONE have had to pay any compo, NONE have been made to sit out for that length of time and NONE have been made to apologize for the next 5 seasons in the media every time they see a camera.

[Kingsgrove-Loiner]

I don't know where this idea has come from that he was bady treated by the Dogs. They were paying him $500K a year to be their star payer.

Admittedly, their roster wasn't the strongest (partly due to Mason bailing out and signing for us) - but he knew that before the season started. Why did he wait until it was obvious they weren't going to win the comp before he sneaked out?

The difference between him and Tallis/Gasnier/Folau is that they athough they left the game, they were open about it before they went.
Personally, I think what Folau did was worse than Money Bill, and potentially more damaging to the game....although he (Money Bill) hasn't exactly done himself any favours since he walked out with his attitude towards all things league. It stinks. This code has had hundreds of star players through the years, but none of them have thought they're bigger than the game, like this bloke seems to do.

I had to laugh on Monday when the Eels denied Will Hopoate's request to have a stint in Jap Union before he comes back to the NRL. A statement said 'the Eels recruitment policy is focused on committed Rugby League players who are dedicated to a winning team culture and who put the team first. This is non- negotiable'.

This is the first time I've been envious of the wooden spoon team. I wish we had their balls.

[Guest]

Too funny..

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/l...512-1yjrf.html

Embattled Eels make late play for SBW..
Date May 13, 2012

PARRAMATTA have made an audacious bid to sign Sonny Bill Williams to ensure there's a fitting replacement to fill Nathan Hindmarsh's No.11 jersey.

And in another stunning development at the embattled club, Ray Price has emerged as a key player in the decision not to appoint Jason Taylor as assistant coach.

Williams has been strongly linked to the Sydney Roosters and his signing with the Bondi Junction club has been considered by many to be a fait accompli. However, The Sun-Herald can reveal the Eels are preparing a late and lucrative offer in the hope of getting under the guard of the Roosters and other potential suitors. In a further hint that a deal with the Roosters isn't done, the Tricolours have recently re-signed forwards Jared Waerea-Hargreaves, Aidan Guerra and Tinirau Arona.

Williams's manager, Khoder Nasser, has assured Eels officials no deal has been struck elsewhere.

Parramatta powerbrokers initially baulked at the All Blacks star's exorbitant asking price, believed to be about $1 million, when they made inquiries about his services. However, they believe the money they had put aside to recruit Manly and Australian forward Tony Williams could be better spent on his code-crossing namesake. As revealed by the Herald two weeks ago, SBW has a massive offer from Japanese rugby union powerhouse Panasonic Wild Knights, believed to be $1.5m a season.

If he were to return to the NRL with the Eels, it would create unprecedented hype next year when they take on their traditional rivals Canterbury, the club where Williams made his name before controversially leaving the club in 2008. Parra are also in the hunt for Manly forward Darcy Lussick but their position at the foot of the ladder isn't aiding their recruitment ambitions.

The Eels have money to spend, with Luke Burt expected to follow Nathan Hindmarsh into retirement. Other off-contract players including Justin Poore, Ben Smith and Shane Shackleton are highly unlikely to be offered another deal.
Kearney, also the Kiwis coach, has a good relationship with Sonny Bill Williams and the pair have kept in contact regarding an NRL return.

While the former Bulldog would provide the strike power the side has been missing, the Eels believe his signature would also be a marketing coup. Officials believe that memberships and crowd figures would rise as fans flock to see his return to league.

One of the potential sticking points is that Nasser is not an accredited NRL agent and the next manager intake won't happen until later in the year. Meanwhile, the deal to bring Taylor to the club was aborted at the last minute after Price rang several directors last weekend. Kearney has said from the outset he wanted autonomy over football operations and Price suggested that officials shouldn't impose assistance Kearney didn't want. However, it means that Kearney will have no excuses - and can't accuse directors of meddling - if he can't turn the season around.

[Guest]

Ralphy SBW did not make a mistake, he was getting screwed over by the Dogs & his amateur agent at the time, that talked him into signing a contract that was below his worth, so that the club could keep it's "stars" together, but he was the only one who made a sacrifice for that purpose, when Nasser made him aware of all that, he then approached the club to see if they could amend the 5 yr contract they had cornered him into, they refused to do anything to help him, so he got out of there as soon as he could. I certainly would've done the same thing if I was in his position, I would think any half intelligent person would've done the same & yes Ralphy that includes you!! ;)

Absolutely not. I would go about it the correct way and not run away when the going gets tough. Thats the poor form Arty. If he was the victim you say he is, why did he cross codes? Why did he not attempt to stay in league? He saw dollars and ran straight after them. Yes, he may have been suffering at the dogs but there would have been a far better way to go about it than running away from your team mates.

And I agree with you as well Arty, he did NOT make a mistake. It was a concious choice and he knew full well what he was doing. The point that he still does not believe what he did was wrong proves that.

On the other point... Why would he apologise in 2009 if he did NOT make a mistake? Why would you apologise for something you did not do?

[Guest]

I'm with you Filthy and totally understand where you're coming from. I

've resigned myself to the fact that I'll have to suffer him at the Roosters for at least one season, but I will always be opposed to him being at the club. Pixie claps from me will be the most I can offer the bloke, and that's begrudgingly.

It's the different opinions and views that make life the interesting place that it is. Bloody boring if we were all the same.

I'm happy for the Scummy Bill supporters to fawn over him all they like. Just so long as they don't expect me to do the same.

NC

Respect!

[Guest]

I think too didn't he agree to the lower contract amount because the bullcheats management said he had to in order for them to keep all their star players together? And then soon after they sacked Mason and someone else (who I cant remember??) and when $BW went back to them after this to ask for an upgrade in light of the new circumstances they said no. They had a very ordinary squad at the time he did a runner. He was by far and away there only marquee player at the time if I recall.
But of course it's the way he left which gets everyone up in arms and me included. Running away over night, skipping the country like he did. He was young, naive and not the smartest tool in the shed - still isn't. But he HAS apologised whatever the News Ltd press try and tell you. Does the Telecrap and other journos / the public out there continually ask Johns to apologise for his drug use? I am almost certain if $BW was joining the Sharks, Souffs, Tigers, Parra or one of the media darlings, we'd be seeing a different kind of reporting and not all this OTT hysteria..

So isnt he supposed to be our only marquee player also? Where does that leave us? If we dont go so well does that mean that our only marquee player will run again or be interrested in his boxing and off season deals in rugby, soccer, tennis, netball, down hill skiing, knitting etc?

[Guest]

I don't know where this idea has come from that he was bady treated by the Dogs. They were paying him $500K a year to be their star payer.

Admittedly, their roster wasn't the strongest (partly due to Mason bailing out and signing for us) - but he knew that before the season started. Why did he wait until it was obvious they weren't going to win the comp before he sneaked out?

The difference between him and Tallis/Gasnier/Folau is that they athough they left the game, they were open about it before they went.
Personally, I think what Folau did was worse than Money Bill, and potentially more damaging to the game....although he (Money Bill) hasn't exactly done himself any favours since he walked out with his attitude towards all things league. It stinks. This code has had hundreds of star players through the years, but none of them have thought they're bigger than the game, like this bloke seems to do.

I had to laugh on Monday when the Eels denied Will Hopoate's request to have a stint in Jap Union before he comes back to the NRL. A statement said 'the Eels recruitment policy is focused on committed Rugby League players who are dedicated to a winning team culture and who put the team first. This is non- negotiable'.

This is the first time I've been envious of the wooden spoon team. I wish we had their balls.

I did not know that. Thanks for the info. I too reckon thats an awesome policy. Apparently the concept is lost on many fans here these days. They say thay are happy to forget or forgive his past actions for the sake of helping us to a title. How is all that possible with the sideshow going on atm? How is a guy who is supposed to be boxing just 2 weeks out from the season going to be at his best for the start of the league season? The risk of injuries to half committed players during their time in other sports is too great and can backfire on them way too easily. We just dodged a bullet with SBWalkout as it is and realistically we dont know how its going to hold up throughout the year anyway.

[Guest]

So isnt he supposed to be our only marquee player also? Where does that leave us? If we dont go so well does that mean that our only marquee player will run again or be interrested in his boxing and off season deals in rugby, soccer, tennis, netball, down hill skiing, knitting etc?

Happy is the man who has broken the chains which hurt the mind and has given up worrying once and for all.