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  • #31
    I don't have an informed point of view re James as I don't know much about him as I don't have Fox and the Warriors are not televised. I've tried YouTube but all James Maloney highlights searches bring back Warriors highlights because of the commentary.
    Does anyone have a good link to save this tired old bugger from searching.
    Written and published on behalf of the Liberal Party, Queensland

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Andrew Walker View Post
      So you would prefer Lyon to Jennings Dont think Maloney is the right 5/8 But have not asnswered fralphys question

      The real question on everyones mind now is Are there any off season signngs that the club has made that you endorse ?
      I think our recruitment has been overrated and whilst individually the payers are talented and I rate all three (big name signings) I'm not convinced they solve our current short comings or maintain our Youth policy which I'm a strong supporter of.

      Maloney in my opinion was a rushed signing, the club made a decision to release Todd Carney and decided that Anasta's days in the halves were behind him thus went out and signed the first half that was on the open market. I hate to harp on about it but we lack creativity and Maloney isn't the solution to that. Personally I would have much rather signed a promising youngster, monitored his development whilst always keeping one eye on the market looking for the right option if it became available.

      Jennings is overkill, I think it's inevitable now that Moga will leave the club once his contract expires and I think it's a massive lack of faith in what the club has been doing so well in recent years - bringing through promising youngsters. 1m on a centre pairing is ridiculous imo.

      SBW is a good signing so long as we're dealing with him on a year to year basis as there's so many unknown quantities about his return. He gives us cap flexibility, great marketability & isn't holding back any outstanding youngsters.

      In my opinion the two types of players we needed to pick up were a creative playmaker & a middle third worker. This hasn't changed since 2010, difference was in 2010 we picked up Todd Carney & Jason Ryles. This isn't about me being cynical because in 2010 I was absolutely stoked with those signings I just don't think we've taken the right path.

      Can you honestly say that at the start of the season you were hoping for;

      A 500k centre on a 4 year contract (whilst Moga is still at the club) and;
      A orgnaising/supporting 5/8.

      I feel for Robinson because he's had little say in this years recruitment and rather than judging our squad on WHAT we've signed people are more worried about WHO we've signed. Names wont get us into the top 8.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post
        I think our recruitment has been overrated and whilst individually the payers are talented and I rate all three (big name signings) I'm not convinced they solve our current short comings or maintain our Youth policy which I'm a strong supporter of.

        Maloney in my opinion was a rushed signing, the club made a decision to release Todd Carney and decided that Anasta's days in the halves were behind him thus went out and signed the first half that was on the open market. I hate to harp on about it but we lack creativity and Maloney isn't the solution to that. Personally I would have much rather signed a promising youngster, monitored his development whilst always keeping one eye on the market looking for the right option if it became available.

        Jennings is overkill, I think it's inevitable now that Moga will leave the club once his contract expires and I think it's a massive lack of faith in what the club has been doing so well in recent years - bringing through promising youngsters. 1m on a centre pairing is ridiculous imo.

        SBW is a good signing so long as we're dealing with him on a year to year basis as there's so many unknown quantities about his return. He gives us cap flexibility, great marketability & isn't holding back any outstanding youngsters.

        In my opinion the two types of players we needed to pick up were a creative playmaker & a middle third worker. This hasn't changed since 2010, difference was in 2010 we picked up Todd Carney & Jason Ryles. This isn't about me being cynical because in 2010 I was absolutely stoked with those signings I just don't think we've taken the right path.

        Can you honestly say that at the start of the season you were hoping for;

        A 500k centre on a 4 year contract (whilst Moga is still at the club) and;
        A orgnaising/supporting 5/8.

        I feel for Robinson because he's had little say in this years recruitment and rather than judging our squad on WHAT we've signed people are more worried about WHO we've signed. Names wont get us into the top 8.
        Dribble. Too many beers over the off season I think. Normally agree with your views but these last few weeks you've been off the mark.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by tony the wheel View Post
          should we go back to your man Braith?
          New year, same old bait.

          Surely you can come up with something more original Phil...

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Dubai View Post
            It all comes down to availability. There aren't a great number of top line 6's. I think most would agree there are a few higher up the pecking order, but I think he will turn out to be good value and will complement the current squad. His line breaks and support play in particular will be a great addition to our team. It should also give Pearce alot more freedom.

            Realistically we needed additional talent across the park, we have that with Jennings SBW and Maloney. If we had of gone for a Foran, we wouldn't have had the money to get both Jenings and SBW.
            His linebreaks and support play are only a nice addition to the squad because we've got an incompetent fullback, this problem is a lot easier to solve than buying an expensive 5/8.

            Maloney & Pearce are both halves that thrive on playing within a strucutre, what we need is someone who can play outside of a structure. Johnson complimented Maloney so well because he did that, Carney complimented Pearce so well because he did that...

            I think Maloney's a great player, I just don't think he's a great fit.

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            • #36
              I'm stoked we've picked up Jennings, because i still haven't seen enough quality in Moga to think he's a consistent first grader! Onto Maloney, anything is a step up from Braith!

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              • #37
                just needed to add a bit of detail
                Originally posted by Madrooster View Post
                or setting his mates ARSE alight acting like a 5 year old. [/SIZE]
                What odds there'll be a photo of Toddy asleep (Freddy style) this year?

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post
                  I think our recruitment has been overrated and whilst individually the payers are talented and I rate all three (big name signings) I'm not convinced they solve our current short comings or maintain our Youth policy which I'm a strong supporter of.

                  Maloney in my opinion was a rushed signing, the club made a decision to release Todd Carney and decided that Anasta's days in the halves were behind him thus went out and signed the first half that was on the open market. I hate to harp on about it but we lack creativity and Maloney isn't the solution to that. Personally I would have much rather signed a promising youngster, monitored his development whilst always keeping one eye on the market looking for the right option if it became available.

                  Jennings is overkill, I think it's inevitable now that Moga will leave the club once his contract expires and I think it's a massive lack of faith in what the club has been doing so well in recent years - bringing through promising youngsters. 1m on a centre pairing is ridiculous imo.

                  SBW is a good signing so long as we're dealing with him on a year to year basis as there's so many unknown quantities about his return. He gives us cap flexibility, great marketability & isn't holding back any outstanding youngsters.

                  In my opinion the two types of players we needed to pick up were a creative playmaker & a middle third worker. This hasn't changed since 2010, difference was in 2010 we picked up Todd Carney & Jason Ryles. This isn't about me being cynical because in 2010 I was absolutely stoked with those signings I just don't think we've taken the right path.

                  Can you honestly say that at the start of the season you were hoping for;

                  A 500k centre on a 4 year contract (whilst Moga is still at the club) and;
                  A orgnaising/supporting 5/8.

                  I feel for Robinson because he's had little say in this years recruitment and rather than judging our squad on WHAT we've signed people are more worried about WHO we've signed. Names wont get us into the top 8.
                  Screw the youth policy BS!
                  It's business and you got to be in it to win it!!
                  Dribble Dribble Dribble!!!! Rooster6, is your glass always half empty?

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by roosterproud View Post
                    if carney has an average year i can see malony and pearce as the origin halfs. thats if malony is nsw not a qlder.
                    Won't happen, Daley wants a running 5/8 like Carney, Maloney is a great hole runner and brilliant support player but he lacks the size and the acceleration to be a good running 5/8. Anyway, why would you want to loose Jenning, Pearce, Maloney and possibly Cordner who Daley rates for three games during the season, those games could be the difference in making top 4.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Rooster_6 View Post
                      I think our recruitment has been overrated and whilst individually the payers are talented and I rate all three (big name signings) I'm not convinced they solve our current short comings or maintain our Youth policy which I'm a strong supporter of.

                      Maloney in my opinion was a rushed signing, the club made a decision to release Todd Carney and decided that Anasta's days in the halves were behind him thus went out and signed the first half that was on the open market. I hate to harp on about it but we lack creativity and Maloney isn't the solution to that. Personally I would have much rather signed a promising youngster, monitored his development whilst always keeping one eye on the market looking for the right option if it became available.

                      Jennings is overkill, I think it's inevitable now that Moga will leave the club once his contract expires and I think it's a massive lack of faith in what the club has been doing so well in recent years - bringing through promising youngsters. 1m on a centre pairing is ridiculous imo.

                      SBW is a good signing so long as we're dealing with him on a year to year basis as there's so many unknown quantities about his return. He gives us cap flexibility, great marketability & isn't holding back any outstanding youngsters.

                      In my opinion the two types of players we needed to pick up were a creative playmaker & a middle third worker. This hasn't changed since 2010, difference was in 2010 we picked up Todd Carney & Jason Ryles. This isn't about me being cynical because in 2010 I was absolutely stoked with those signings I just don't think we've taken the right path.

                      Can you honestly say that at the start of the season you were hoping for;

                      A 500k centre on a 4 year contract (whilst Moga is still at the club) and;
                      A orgnaising/supporting 5/8.

                      I feel for Robinson because he's had little say in this years recruitment and rather than judging our squad on WHAT we've signed people are more worried about WHO we've signed. Names wont get us into the top 8.
                      youth policy? sbw is 27, jennings is 24 and maloney is 26.

                      signing a youngster only puts off our premiership hopes for that much longer.

                      moga wont leave the club if he knows whats good for him. he will be right for a first grade spot in four years time. hes still 18!

                      900k, not 1 mil

                      kennedy will be our middle third worker.

                      and no, names wont get us into the top 8, but talent will, and those names have talent.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Chooky Chookerson:273597
                        I am very happy we have Maloney this season... I think he will do a great job for us. But in saying that, we probably did pay too much for him as we were competing with other teams at a time when the warriors were on a hot streak... just my opinion
                        If we can still afford to buy SBW and Jennings, then I don't think we have paid too much for Maloney.
                        Embrace the Hate! JC

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by filthyralph View Post
                          Name your preferred 5/8 R6?
                          Todd Carney

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Thirteen View Post
                            Screw the youth policy BS!
                            It's business and you got to be in it to win it!!
                            Dribble Dribble Dribble!!!! Rooster6, is your glass always half empty?
                            Going 100% on a youth policy would be a total disaster. I doubt in modern professional sport it has succeeded anywhere. Not in a major sporting competition. Signing some young 5/8 would probably destroy any chance of success in the next 3 years. Not surprised when push came to shove, he could not actually name an alternative to Maloney.

                            Maloney actually plays nothing like Pearce. His strength is his support play and hole running which will work well trailing SBW. Having 2 halves with no running game as we had last year would have been a disaster. Now we have Maloney who will take pressure off Pearce.
                            ...

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Cockadoodledoo View Post
                              Going 100% on a youth policy would be a total disaster. I doubt in modern professional sport it has succeeded anywhere. Not in a major sporting competition. Signing some young 5/8 would probably destroy any chance of success in the next 3 years. Not surprised when push came to shove, he could not actually name an alternative to Maloney.

                              Maloney actually plays nothing like Pearce. His strength is his support play and hole running which will work well trailing SBW. Having 2 halves with no running game as we had last year would have been a disaster. Now we have Maloney who will take pressure off Pearce.
                              http://www.thechookpen.com.au/forum/...-a-premiership

                              Nor did I say that I supported a 100% youth policy. Purchases should be made to fill voids that we can't within the club to an adequate standard. I never claimed that SBW or Maloney compromise the youth policy because they don't. Jennings makes no sense though.

                              Do you disagree that the running game Maloney will provide next year could just as easily achieved by playing anyone but Minichiello at fullback?

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by TDK View Post
                                Won't happen, Daley wants a running 5/8 like Carney, Maloney is a great hole runner and brilliant support player but he lacks the size and the acceleration to be a good running 5/8. Anyway, why would you want to loose Jenning, Pearce, Maloney and possibly Cordner who Daley rates for three games during the season, those games could be the difference in making top 4.
                                I'd be surprised if Cordner plays origin this year, very promising player but it's one position NSW are pretty well served in.

                                Will be interesting to see whether Pearce gets another shot next year, I reckon Daley is leaning towards Reynolds from Souffs.

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