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  • #31
    Originally posted by Spirit of 66 View Post
    Yes. These are the areas where the referees have the most "wriggle room" in influencing the outcome of games. I counted at least 6 incidents last night where the Warriors could have been penalised for this kind of thing, but weren't. The other area are the offside penalties - these are now rare, unless of course the ref is unhappy with a fair strip, in which case he'll randomly find someone to penalise.
    For those 6 incidents I thought we were lucky at least 10 times for doing the same thing.
    I don't buy into the conspiracy theory. We have a bad rap and the only way to fix that is through mentally getting into everyone's head and to embed it in them that the ball is off limits in the tackle. When the ref says move, you move. IMO that's the only way to stem the flow of constant penalties against us

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    • #32
      I believe we deserve a lot of the penalties we give away, some poor discipline still in the side. It occurs when we fatigue and it's something I'm hoping as the year progresses we minimize, as the players learn. IMO it takes a while to change long forged habits.

      The penalties or lack there of we receive is the real worry. I can only agree on the mystery that is opposition teams near perfection against us. The gap between penalties given and received.

      Clearly reffs are looking at us way more than they look at the opposition. The calling Jake, Jarrod and now I notice Sonny is a real hate of mine. Hopefully the "tip sheet" and "game management" shit is something that's drilled out of the reffs ASAP.

      What about the 2 penalties against $BW last night. The first one they never replayed but Hurrell was allowed to push him in the back, I can't cop that sorta weak arsed shit. And the rake, fark me I reckon the reff made a mistake there and used the old off side excuse. That was shit.

      And the reversal of a decision. Is that even LEGAL??? I was of the belief the Vidiot is only to be used in the event of foul play??? if we'd have lost that game from that decision I bet we'd have heard a lot more about that incident.

      Every time we travel to NZ we cop that sorta shit. That win IMO was even more significant in the face of the Reffing and weather and crowd.

      One thing we can control is our discipline. If we can really stop the silly shit I'm sure we can reverse the obvious perception the reffs have of our club. The rest, being penalties received, will flow IMO.



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      • #33
        I watched the Storm game and there were a number of times in that match that they should have been penalised and weren't. The main offender was that knuckle-head Ryles with his hand all over the ball, etc. It's frustrating when you know that we would have been pinged for it, because we are an so-called "ill disciplined" side.

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        • #34
          In regards to the vidiot reversing the decision on that scrum feed, wasn't there an incident in the corresponding game last year where Mini lost the ball after being knocked out and it was called knocked on. Even after the video ref saw that the only reason Mini dropped the ball was because he was knocked out we still didn't get the decision reversed. The warriors got the ball back and denied us the chance to go on the attack and win the game.

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          • #35
            What I notice in a lot of games is that the defending sides when they hear the ref they pull their other player of the tackled player. Very rarely do you see the Roosters players doing this. I think we would incur less penalties and it would also show that the players are playing for each other. It is only small thing but I notice a lot of other teams doing it!!! They should treat the ball as a bomb in the ruck. We are penalized far too often in the ruck area. Just an observation and the coach should be on it at training.

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            • #36
              What annoys me with the refs. As soon as one of our players makes a tackle, they are yelled at to move IMMEDIATELY. I watched/listened closely the other night. It was happening to us and not the Warriors

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              • #37
                Originally posted by stsae View Post
                I believe we deserve a lot of the penalties we give away, some poor discipline still in the side. It occurs when we fatigue and it's something I'm hoping as the year progresses we minimize, as the players learn. IMO it takes a while to change long forged habits.

                The penalties or lack there of we receive is the real worry. I can only agree on the mystery that is opposition teams near perfection against us. The gap between penalties given and received.

                Clearly reffs are looking at us way more than they look at the opposition. The calling Jake, Jarrod and now I notice Sonny is a real hate of mine. Hopefully the "tip sheet" and "game management" shit is something that's drilled out of the reffs ASAP.

                What about the 2 penalties against $BW last night. The first one they never replayed but Hurrell was allowed to push him in the back, I can't cop that sorta weak arsed shit. And the rake, fark me I reckon the reff made a mistake there and used the old off side excuse. That was shit.

                And the reversal of a decision. Is that even LEGAL??? I was of the belief the Vidiot is only to be used in the event of foul play??? if we'd have lost that game from that decision I bet we'd have heard a lot more about that incident.

                Every time we travel to NZ we cop that sorta shit. That win IMO was even more significant in the face of the Reffing and weather and crowd.

                One thing we can control is our discipline. If we can really stop the silly shit I'm sure we can reverse the obvious perception the reffs have of our club. The rest, being penalties received, will flow IMO.

                Our discipline is one thing we can control, each Player has a responsibility to assist and help their team mates out of the sticky situations eg, where the legs tackler gets tied under pull him free as you get up. Hands off the ball after tackle completion by notifying team mate defence is set nothing will be gained.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by mightyrooster View Post
                  In regards to the vidiot reversing the decision on that scrum feed, wasn't there an incident in the corresponding game last year where Mini lost the ball after being knocked out and it was called knocked on. Even after the video ref saw that the only reason Mini dropped the ball was because he was knocked out we still didn't get the decision reversed. The warriors got the ball back and denied us the chance to go on the attack and win the game.
                  Great point mr. Another example is JWH getting hit in the head by dwyer in the 2010 semi.
                  "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."

                  Thomas Jefferson

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